Whats your stance on gun control ?

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by Daradon

As well, Germany wasn't that close to taking over the world in reality. They did a good job in Europe and that's about it.

If Germany had won the Battle of Britian (which they were quite close to doing) and the UK had accepted a government similar to that of Vichy France, the Axis would have probably have had control of the entire Asian continent by 1945 (splitting China with Japan) and possibly no US entry into the war.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

OK then, I am all in favor of gun control.

Sweet! I did it!

Heh, as I also explained the the multitudes of other threads, I'm not against people owning guns, I just favor a more balanced approach to the whole situation like in Canada as opposed to the lobbied mess that is the US.

And as far as this thread goes, I am pretty sure we are all getting trolled by the OP. One sentence, no participation. Pretty weak. If he is telling the truth then he deserves to fail his project cause he isn't doing much here.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

If Germany had won the Battle of Britian (which they were quite close to doing) and the UK had accepted a government similar to that of Vichy France, the Axis would have probably have had control of the entire Asian continent by 1945 (splitting China with Japan) and possibly no US entry into the war.

Naw, over reaching into Russia sealed their fate.

Plus your scenario as a lot of 'if's' in it. As history stands now, they just simply weren't as close as a lot of people like believe they were. Don't get me wrong, it's a tragedy and it's messed up, and obviously the biggest war we've had to this point (though I'd argue that other nations and leaders and empires conquered more of the KNOWN worlds of their time) but it wasn't as close or simplistic as many people like to say.

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Naw, over reaching into Russia sealed their fate.

Plus your scenario as a lot of 'if's' in it. As history stands now, they just simply weren't as close as a lot of people like believe they were. Don't get me wrong, it's a tragedy and it's messed up, and obviously the biggest war we've had to this point (though I'd argue that other nations and leaders and empires conquered more of the KNOWN worlds of their time) but it wasn't as close or simplistic as many people like to say.

I know it is quite a few 'what ifs', but I think of it more as dominos falling where they should.

Russians almost broke in Stalingrad and that would have sealed their fate. They basically dumped everything into that city.

Basically because Britian was still alive it allowed for the 2 front war to continue, which the Axis couldn't fight. Things turn out differently if the entire Axis rolls into Russia.

[Redliner]

I like big guns.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

You realize there are other reasons than that right?
There is nothing remotely attractive about criticizing people for shooting thier own dinner when you've got a roast waiting for you at home for dinner.

I mentioned for sport, and sport only. I purposely ommitted hunting for legitimate purposes such as food; I'm surprised you werent intelligent enough to decipher that.

Hunting for sport is legitimately stupid, violent, barbaric and unecessary.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

If Germany had won the Battle of Britian (which they were quite close to doing) and the UK had accepted a government similar to that of Vichy France, the Axis would have probably have had control of the entire Asian continent by 1945 (splitting China with Japan) and possibly no US entry into the war.

Germany wasn't at all close to winning the Battle of Britain. Even if the Luftwaffe had succeeded in eliminating the RAF as an effective fighting force and established air superiority over southern England, the German military did not have the capability to launch a cross-channel ground invasion of the British Isles in 1940/1941.

[EddyBeers]

Pro Gun Control, not sure why I have to register my car but some guy does not have to register his guns.

[Coach]

no reason why anyone outside law enforcement needs guns that arent for hunting.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Sweet! I did it!

I was on the fence.

[T@T]

Second amendment: right to keep and bear arms.

If you think the forefathers were serious then the people should be able to possess rocket launchers,artillery,tanks,fighter aircraft and nuclear bombs.

If you don't like this idea then agree to ban firearms from the American people (who obviously can't handle them)

The Second amendment is the almost the most misunderstood part of american society..(first being their understanding of canadian geography)

[Cowperson]

Interesting Canadian case . . . . . . Nunavut man has three murder convictions overturned and is granted a new trial in a "strong defence of self defence." using a gun. Several victims were shot in the back and one was on the ground.

Details at . . . .

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/01/31/chris-bishop/

Cowperson

[Nufy]

I've always wondered about the whole assault rifle thing...

many of the stories I have seen say that want them for hunting...

If you need a high capacity magazine to go hunting, you should take up a different hobby because you suck at it...

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

Interesting Canadian case . . . . . . Nunavut man has three murder convictions overturned and is granted a new trial in a "strong defence of self defence." using a gun. Several victims were shot in the back and one was on the ground.

Details at . . . .

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/01/31/chris-bishop/

Cowperson

If he had shot the men while they were still in his home and threatening violence against him, I wouldn't have a problem with this being a justified shooting for self defence. However, when you shoot people in the back while they're running away, including executing one who is injured on the ground, I have a hard time believing that a reasonable person would consider them a threat to one's safety.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by Nufy

I've always wondered about the whole assault rifle thing...

many of the stories I have seen say that want them for hunting...

If you need a high capacity magazine to go hunting, you should take up a different hobby because you suck at it...

I don't think the gun fanatics are even trying to deceive anyone anymore about the hunting aspect. They simply say they want them for (better) self defense as they are easier to shoot, and you can take out a bad person with a gun, much more effectively.

Or as Alex Jones says, they are fun to shoot.

It's Michelle Bachmann's favorite gun

BACHMANN: My favorite gun is an AR-15 because you can be so accurate with it, and I scored the best in my [gun safety] class of any of the men too in that class.

MICKELSON: The AR-15--

BACHMANN: It's a rifle -- I love that gun.

MICKELSON: --it's a combat weapon! It can be made automatic, but it's a semi-automatic .222 I think.

BACHMANN: I like being accurate, and that is a great gun.

MICKELSON: Accurate and apparently lots of firepower and many many shots.

BACHMANN: Many many shots, yeah.

http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2...town_video.php

[Senator Clay Davis]

My opinion on gun control notwithstanding, the NRA is ####ing insane. Here's their hit list, I mean ummm, the list of people who have ever dared to oppose them. Literally shows you how bat#### paranoid crazy these loons are. Even if you're for gun rights, you should be anti-NRA.
http://nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=15

[Tron_fdc]

I like to blow things up just as much as the next guy, but there really isn't any reason to have high caliber weapons available to the general public.

That said, if I can figure out a way to buy said high caliber weapon while in the states on holidays, I'm absolutely going to do it. Shooting a propane tank and seeing the subsequent explosion has been on my bucket list for quite some time.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by JonDuke

I really wish that a mod would make a whole separate SECTION for Gun Talk. IE: we have a Tech Talk, Food and Entertainment, and the Off the Topic Forums, and it would be great to come here, to the OTF, and not see so many thread devoted to, or derailed to guns.

Perhaps you shouldn't click on the thread then, much less make a post whining about it.

[pseudoreality]

I think the laws in Canada have it more or less right. Guns are to be used for hunting and sport, not for killing people (I.e. self defense). The levels and restrictions we have with non-restricted (rifles and shotguns), restricted (handguns), and prohibited (assault rifles) is about right. Unfortunately the gun control lobby has basically put the long guns into the handgun category. As a result I have a restricted weapons licence. Do I need or want a handgun? No, but it was only $20 more, so what the heck.

[Azure]

As for gun control, I think Canada has a great system.