Nino Niederreiter requests trade.

[Brannigans Law]

Originally Posted by Hunter7

Like Nabokov who they forced to join the team last season?

Or, like Visnovsky who they are forcing to join the team this season?

Maybe at next yr's draft, they can poll the potential first rounders and ask who wants to be drafted by the isles?

I think there's a difference though. Nabakob and Vis weren't mishandled and/or mistreated like Nino possibly has been.

[Hunter7]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I have no idea if NYI will really trade Nino or not, but I wouldn't gauge it based on what Snow says. Would he actually tell anyone at this point outside the organization if he will? Phoenix wasn't going to cave into Turris' demands either.. and then bam!

Who knows if it will happen or not? Snow probably hasn't really figured it out yet himself, but I bet you for SURE he will be listening to trade offers, and keep insisting he won't trade him until he actually decides (if) to pull the trigger on an offer.

Isles with their tight internal budget, rely very heavily on cheap kids.

They let Parenteau go when they would not meet his $4m salary demand, replacing him with Boyes $1m salry

Nino is the isles top prospect and they'd rather pay him $900,000 in 2013-2014, then pay an older player $2m-$3m.

[foshizzle11]

Originally Posted by Brannigans Law

I think there's a difference though. Nabakob and Vis weren't mishandled and/or mistreated like Nino possibly has been.

How has he been mistreated?

[Hunter7]

Originally Posted by Brannigans Law

I think there's a difference though. Nabakob and Vis weren't mishandled and/or mistreated like Nino possibly has been.

If Nino were 27 and not 20, if he were several months from being a ufa, instead of 6 yrs, then Nino's wishes would matter.

Snow won't trade Nino because fans feel, he's mistreated Nino.

Even Nino's agent seems to accept that they can't force Snow to trade him, at this point in Nino's young career.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Hunter7

Isles with their tight internal budget, rely very heavily on cheap kids.

They let Parenteau go when they would not meet his $4m salary demand, replacing him with Boyes $1m salry

Nino is the isles top prospect and they'd rather pay him $900,000 in 2013-2014, then pay an older player $2m-$3m.

I agree with you, but perhaps the trade will include other players that will end up saving NYI some money as well. I am sure that will be part of any package for Nino.

[islanderbill]

Originally Posted by Hunter7

Isles with their tight internal budget, rely very heavily on cheap kids.

They let Parenteau go when they would not meet his $4m salary demand, replacing him with Boyes $1m salry

Nino is the isles top prospect and they'd rather pay him $900,000 in 2013-2014, then pay an older player $2m-$3m.

That may change. I am not saying for sure that it is definitely going to change. For the Isles, the indicator will be this offseason. Charlie finally has a destiniation for the team and will likely want to build a winner going in there sooooo...... The Isles may be players in the offseason again.

[Mister Yamoto]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Interesting idea, but how many teams are willing to spend $26.25 million (the 2.25 Dipietro is owed this year plus the $24 million buyout, granted spread over the next 16 years) for an unproven player. I guess you can reduce that figure somewhat depending on the player going back

Seems like a big gamble, a GM would have to convince the owners that Nino is a legit player to spend that much cash on him.

Ya, very interesting idea. Trades like this have happened, but only on smaller scales. The Leafs "bought" Cody Frandson for the price of Lombardis' contract. It was at the time unknown if he would play again.

But if Wayne Gretzky and Eric Lindros were both sold for 15 million, 26.25 for Niederrieter is way out of wack. Hell, you can get a Peace Bridge for 24.5.

Soooo, could the Flames do the trade that Calgary4life suggested, but trade for Yashin instead? According to CapGeek he is owed a much more reasonable 6.6 million.

[Hunter7]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I agree with you, but perhaps the trade will include other players that will end up saving NYI some money as well. I am sure that will be part of any package for Nino.

Isles have two large salaries that are longer then 2 yrs on their team, Tavares and DiPietro.DiPietro will make $4.5m a season and Tavares will average $5.5m a season.

And we know the isles aren't going to be looking to move Tavares.

Isles don't have other big salaried players to dump.

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by Mister Yamoto

Ya, very interesting idea. Trades like this have happened, but only on smaller scales. The Leafs "bought" Cody Frandson for the price of Lombardis' contract. It was at the time unknown if he would play again.

But if Wayne Gretzky and Eric Lindros were both sold for 15 million, 26.25 for Niederrieter is way out of wack. Hell, you can get a Peace Bridge for 24.5.

Soooo, could the Flames do the trade that Calgary4life suggested, but trade for Yashin instead? According to CapGeek he is owed a much more reasonable 6.6 million.

Can't trade for a player that is already bought out. The Islanders are 100% on the hook for Yashin's buy-out cost.

Edit: unless you're suggesting sending over the amount due to Yashin, as part of cash within a trade.

[cral12]

Greg Nemisz plus ?; would that get it done? One could only hope Feaster could pull one over on Snow.
(scanned through thread quickly and didn't see him mentioned)

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

Can't trade for a player that is already bought out. The Islanders are 100% on the hook for Yashin's buy-out cost.

Edit: unless you're suggesting sending over the amount due to Yashin, as part of cash within a trade.

I don't think cash in deals has been allowed under the last few CBA's (forgot when it got removed).

[Hunter7]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

Can't trade for a player that is already bought out. The Islanders are 100% on the hook for Yashin's buy-out cost.

Edit: unless you're suggesting sending over the amount due to Yashin, as part of cash within a trade.

Teams are not allowed to send cash in a trade.

[Hunter7]

Originally Posted by cral12

Greg Nemisz plus ?; would that get it done? One could only hope Feaster could pull one over on Snow.
(scanned through thread quickly and didn't see him mentioned)

When is the last time an opposing gm, pulled one over on Snow in a trade?

When is the last time Feaster pulled one over, on another gm in a trade?

We are more likely to see Snow pull one over on Feaster, then see Feaster pull one over on Snow.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Hunter7

When is the last time an opposing gm, pulled one over on Snow in a trade?

When is the last time Feaster pulled one over, on another gm in a trade?

We are more likely to see Snow pull one over on Feaster, then see Feaster pull one over on Snow.

Is there a GM in the league that makes fewer trades than Snow?

I seriously can't remember the last time they made a blockbuster, or really even a significant trade.

Usually it's just aging (ish) player for mid round draft pick type of stuff.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by cral12

Greg Nemisz plus ?; would that get it done? One could only hope Feaster could pull one over on Snow.
(scanned through thread quickly and didn't see him mentioned)

The plus would have to be something like Brodie. Nemisz has 1 point in 21 games this year with the heat.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

This is an 'outside the box' trade idea. Some team BUYS him.

No secret Wang is kind of cheap, right? Who is NYI stuck with? After Gomez and Redden, what is the worst contract? If a team is 'rich' enough, they can bring in DiPietro.

From a Flames' standpoint, something like:
NYI:
Stajan

CGY:
DiPietro
Nino

Sit him all year, to make sure he doesn't ever hurt himself, and then use an amnesty buy out on him in the off-season. You end up 'buying' Niederreiter essentially. Have no idea if it would be fair (or feasible) for any side, but would be interesting. Toronto definitely has the cash to do it, and as long as they send an equal cap hit (or close) back that is expiring, I am sure the Islanders would be willing to accept a heck of a lot less in trade just to be free of their 'mistake contract'.

Dipietro?

Feaster has finally matched his meet!

[Hunter7]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Is there a GM in the league that makes fewer trades than Snow?

I seriously can't remember the last time they made a blockbuster, or really even a significant trade.

Usually it's just aging (ish) player for mid round draft pick type of stuff.

He traded Robert Nilson, O'marra and the pick that became Plante for Ryan Smyth. Smyth later left as a ufa, but Nilson/Omarra/Plante are garbage players.

He traded Campoli+ a struggling Comrie for a 1st+ McAmmond at the trade deadline. McAmmond was a salary dump, tossed in for salary reasons. ufa.

He traded a 3rd to acquire Wiz, them later traded him away for a 2nd+ conditional 5th.

He traded 2 second round picks at the 2010 draft to move up into the first to get Brock Nelson, who's one of their best prospects. A big kid. He's gonna be a good one.

[Hunter7]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

The plus would have to be something like Brodie. Nemisz has 1 point in 21 games this year with the heat.

I'm sure when the isles compare that 1 pt to Nino's 36 with Bridgeport, they will feel Brodie's enough of a sweetener

[islanderbill]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Dipietro?

Feaster has finally matched his meet!

You can have him!!!!

Anyway DiPi is another player I don't think is moving as much as I would like it.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by islanderbill

You can have him!!!!

Anyway DiPi is another player I don't think is moving as much as I would like it.

ummm we don't want him!!!

If our owners were cheap enough to sell our 2nd pick to Buffalo last year there is NO way we are buying out Dipietro. Maybe if you gave us Matt Moulson instead. I love that guy!

and holy crap are you an Islander fan? I thought it was a myth! Like a legendary creature such as a unicorn or a saskatchewan.