01-15-2013, 05:11 PM
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#141
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Originally Posted by Bobblehead
I was thinking about the current iteration of mobile option QBs - Kaepernick, Wilson, Griffin III, Newton (even Vick) - they are all in the NFC. I suppose that is just chancebut it makes me wonder if the pendulum is swinging back to the NFC and we will see another number of years with the NFC having the stronger group of teams?
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Had the Seahawks hung on and won, it would have been read option QB's in the NFC Championship game vs the traditional pocket passers in the AFC Championship game.
As it stands the pocket guys are still representing 3/4 of the teams. I guess we'll find out of the read option thing is a fad or if it becomes more of a staple. Which is where the Chiefs having the top pick could be interesting. Do they try and find one of these athletes to be their QB and be the rogue team in the AFC?
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01-15-2013, 05:12 PM
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#142
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
Had the Seahawks hung on and won, it would have been read option QB's in the NFC Championship game vs the traditional pocket passers in the AFC Championship game.
As it stands the pocket guys are still representing 3/4 of the teams. I guess we'll find out of the read option thing is a fad or if it becomes more of a staple. Which is where the Chiefs having the top pick could be interesting. Do they try and find one of these athletes to be their QB and be the rogue team in the AFC?
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Denver tried it last year, but I don't think it was an accurate sample.
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01-15-2013, 08:59 PM
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#143
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Originally Posted by rubecube
Denver tried it last year, but I don't think it was an accurate sample.
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They did make the playoffs with a guy who can't throw. The likes of Wilson, Kaepernick, and Griffen all throw the ball as well as any of their peers. I also don't think Teebow is the same type of runner. These other guys are like Jamal Charles, and Teebow runs like John Riggens.
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01-16-2013, 12:47 AM
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#144
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#1 Goaltender
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Chicago Tribune reporting that Marc Trestman is the new HC of the Chicago Bears
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01-16-2013, 07:14 AM
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#145
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by Cheerio
Chicago Tribune reporting that Marc Trestman is the new HC of the Chicago Bears
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I think it's a great hire. I always liked how Trestman carries himself. He's not a big ego guy but very cerebral and his teams were always prepared to play. I'm glad to see an NFL team think outside the box as these hot assitant to head coach hires are a mixed bag and retreads got fired from their last jobs for a reason. I hope he does well.
As for the Als I think their time of Eastern Conference domination is coming to an end.
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01-16-2013, 08:08 AM
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#146
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Red Deer, AB
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I'm happy with the hire and am quite impressed with how many great NFL names have stepped up and spoken highly of Trestman. Before this all started I wouldnt have thought many people knew, let alone would back the hire of a CFL coach like they did this past week.
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01-16-2013, 08:15 AM
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#147
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by DropIt
I'm happy with the hire and am quite impressed with how many great NFL names have stepped up and spoken highly of Trestman. Before this all started I wouldnt have thought many people knew, let alone would back the hire of a CFL coach like they did this past week.
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Thing is, Trestman has spent triple the amount of time in the NFL than he did in Canada.
Yeah he has been away for a few years, but that doesnt mean he doesnt know how to be successful in the NFL. I think its the best thing to happen for Cutler since he became a pro....that being said the bears still have all kinds of holes to fill with that aging defense and swiss cheese O line, but as far as an offensive mind to lead the team, they made a great hire IMO.
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01-16-2013, 08:52 AM
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#148
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
Had the Seahawks hung on and won, it would have been read option QB's in the NFC Championship game vs the traditional pocket passers in the AFC Championship game.
As it stands the pocket guys are still representing 3/4 of the teams. I guess we'll find out of the read option thing is a fad or if it becomes more of a staple. Which is where the Chiefs having the top pick could be interesting. Do they try and find one of these athletes to be their QB and be the rogue team in the AFC?
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I just have a feeling that style isn't going to last, especially once these guys start taking some big hits & injuries occur. It reminds me of 2002, after Vick exploded on the scene and suddenly it felt like every team was looking for a scrambler. Within about 3 years that fad was basically done, as most were getting banged up (e.g. Vick/Culpepper/McNabb, even lesser scramblers like Jay Fiedler).
Then again I could just be biased, as I'm not a fan of college-type formations in the pros. Doesn't mean I think the players themselves will disappear, but they will have to alter their style as time goes on, like McNabb.
From the few games I've seen him play, I think Wilson has a leg up on other guys like RGIII in terms of knowing how to take a hit better, to prolong their style. CP's many Seahawk fans would be a better judge on this, but it seems like whenever I see him scramble, he has an ability to spin out of big hits and land softly on the turf, whereas RGIII gets crushed in the open field a lot. Some of these guys should take a lesson on how to brace for contact (and get down) like Wilson does.
EDIT: I read your post wrong, thought you were asking if that style would last or not.
Last edited by Sainters7; 01-16-2013 at 09:39 AM.
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01-16-2013, 09:40 AM
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#149
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Interesting choice. I hope Trestman can also play offensive line.
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01-16-2013, 09:53 AM
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#150
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Franchise Player
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Trestman deserves the opportunity. It will be interesting to see if any of the Als players follow him down to Chicago (Green and Richardson in particular)
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01-16-2013, 10:05 AM
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#151
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Apartment 5A
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@mortreport: Chip Kelly is the new coach of the Philadelphia Eagles, according to league sources. No announcement yet.
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01-16-2013, 10:11 AM
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#152
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by KelVarnsen
@mortreport: Chip Kelly is the new coach of the Philadelphia Eagles, according to league sources. No announcement yet.
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WTF? Talk about out of the blue.
EDIT: Confirmed by Jay Glazer.
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01-16-2013, 10:24 AM
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#153
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Jim Rome talking about it now. "Not yet official".
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01-16-2013, 10:29 AM
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#154
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Jason Cole @JasonColeYahoo
Welcome to football son RT @sportingnews: RT @DuckFootball: Oregon recruit RT @NicoFalah Chip Kelly left?! He was at my house 2 days ago
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01-16-2013, 10:32 AM
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#155
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by troutman
Jim Rome talking about it now. "Not yet official".
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Confirmed by Jeff Lurie (Eagles owner).
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01-16-2013, 10:33 AM
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#156
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Les Bowen @LesBowen
I'm hearing Ken Whisenhunt goes to Denver as OC to replace Mike McCoy...
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01-16-2013, 10:37 AM
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#157
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Obviously Chip learned exactly how badly Oregon was going to get hammered with sanctions and bolted ASAP. Also, sorry you'll be keeping Vick Eagles fans, Nick Foles running a Chip Kelly offense sounds like a debacle waiting to happen.
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01-16-2013, 10:45 AM
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#158
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Obviously Chip learned exactly how badly Oregon was going to get hammered with sanctions and bolted ASAP. Also, sorry you'll be keeping Vick Eagles fans, Nick Foles running a Chip Kelly offense sounds like a debacle waiting to happen.
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No chance in hell Vick is starting for the Eagles next year. It may not be Foles either, but no way it's Vick.
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01-16-2013, 10:50 AM
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#159
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Retired
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Originally Posted by M*A*S*H 4077
Trestman deserves the opportunity. It will be interesting to see if any of the Als players follow him down to Chicago (Green and Richardson in particular)
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I'm not sure how many Als players you will see, but I think you can bet on at least a couple of the more talented CFL players getting an invite to Bears camp.
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01-16-2013, 10:52 AM
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#160
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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I think Chip will find a way to work with the players he has, or draft the players he needs.
http://www.phillymag.com/eagles/2013...ow-chip-kelly/
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Those fourth down calls epitomize Kelly’s aggressiveness but what the average football fan doesn’t realize is that Chip’s play-calls (the fourth down tries, fake punts, two-point conversions, etc.) are almost always the correct mathematical decision. Like Paul DePodesta and Billy Beane did in baseball, Kelly’s genius comes from exploiting arithmetic that other coaches are too naïve to acknowledge.
* Kelly believes in focusing on number of plays, not time of possession. In fact, he really doesn’t like time of possession, as you’ll see in this video clip.
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Every coach has to ask himself the same question: ‘What do you want to be?’” Kelly said at a recent clinic. “That is the great thing about football. You can be anything you want. You can be a spread team, I-formation team, power team, wing-T team, option team, or wishbone team. You can be anything you want, but you have to define it.” That definition is evident in Oregon. Kelly’s choice of a no-huddle spread offense drips from every corner of the impressive practice facilities in Eugene. Oregon does not run a no-huddle offense so much as they are a no-huddle program.
When the games do begin, there’s no question that the no-huddle makes Oregon’s attack more dangerous, but it’s a common misconception that they have only one supersonic speed. The Ducks use plenty of their superfast tempo, but they actually have three settings: red light (slow, quarterback looks to sideline for guidance while the coach can signal in a new play), yellow light (medium speed, quarterback calls the play and can make his own audibles at the line, including various check-with-me plays), and green light (superfast).
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Oregon has never had a top-ten recruiting class under Kelly, and Rivals generally ranks Oregon’s classes in the teens or early twenties. Spurrier, coaching in talent-rich Florida, not remote Oregon, was playing with a decked more favorably stacked than Kelly ever has. But more importantly, Kelly’s offenses were unstoppable when he coached at New Hampshire without any recruiting edge, and his success at Oregon happened immediately, even before Oregon truly became the nouveau riche of college football.
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