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			I just pray he doesn't end up landing a regular job with TSN or HNIC.   
 
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			01-09-2013, 11:53 AM
			
			
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				I just pray he doesn't end up landing a regular job with TSN or HNIC.   
 
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Haha, imagine a Burke & Cherry show?   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2013, 11:54 AM
			
			
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			Sounds like Burke did NOT want to make Luongo deal, while many in Leafs org did. Burke a principled man. 
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			01-09-2013, 11:54 AM
			
			
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			Makes sense.  New owners for a new season.  Bring someone in under a completely new CBA regime to clean up his mess.   
 
Most likely they had a hockey related disagreement on a trade for Luongo and ownership recognized it as a sign of things to come.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2013, 11:55 AM
			
			
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				Ownership in Toronto basically has its fingers in the pot at all times. Maybe Burke had some leeway at the beginning of his time in Toronto, but if any GM is going to butt heads with ownership to such a degree they would be fired, it'd probably be Burke. 
			
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Except that the Leafs got new owners last year.
 
I suspect this is Bell and Rogers doing.  They probably want to outsource the position to India and Burke wasn't interested in moving.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2013, 11:56 AM
			
			
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			Nonis is better than Burke anyways.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2013, 11:56 AM
			
			
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If this is true
 
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			01-09-2013, 11:56 AM
			
			
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			Ugh if what I've heard is true then this is ugly. Sounds like it could be personal misconduct
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2013, 11:56 AM
			
			
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			New ownership group combined with what is likely a disagreement on trading for Luongo. Burke wants nothing to do with that contract while management thinks they can win with him in net.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2013, 11:56 AM
			
			
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				What are Burke's 3 best trades? 
			
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Apparently, Burke's made 40 (!) trades since becoming the Leafs GM  http://www.nhltradetracker.com/user/..._Maple_Leafs/1
 
1. Phaneuf et al for Stajan et al (w/ Flames) 
2. Gardiner, Lupul et al for Beachemin (w/ Ducks) 
3. Acquiring Primeau's contract and a 2nd for Stralman, Stuart and a 7th (Flames)
 
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			01-09-2013, 11:56 AM
			
			
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				If he was fired because he was going to make a deal for Luongo....then the leafs are in more trouble than anyone would have believed. 
  
That means non hockey guys are making hockey decisions...and i can point to numerous examples how that always ends in nothing short of failure and often times in catastrophe for the orginization. 
			
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			01-09-2013, 11:56 AM
			
			
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			This had been said dozens of times already but wow that was out of the blue. 
 
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			01-09-2013, 11:57 AM
			
			
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				The bolded part is probably why he got fired. Ownership might have felt that Burke would have added to much payroll ( Loungo), made foolish trades that would help the present and screw the future just to keep his job. 
			
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I wrote the above a couple of minutes ago but now i have a feeling it will have nothing to do with this. My bet is it will be about a non hockey issue. Not sure what or if we will ever find out the full truth.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2013, 11:58 AM
			
			
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			The aftermath will be amusing. 
 
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				Apparently, Burke's made 40 (!) trades since becoming the Leafs GM  http://www.nhltradetracker.com/user/..._Maple_Leafs/1
 
1. Phaneuf et al for Stajan et al (w/ Flames) 
2. Gardiner, Lupul et al for Beachemin (w/ Ducks) 
3. Acquiring Primeau's contract and a 2nd for Stralman, Stuart and a 7th (Flames)
 
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Gradiner and Lupul was by far his best trade.  Still doesn't make up for the Kessel debacle and him blowing his gigantic load in his first free agency season signing truculent idiots forever weighting the team down.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2013, 11:58 AM
			
			
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			Another opportunity to laugh at the Leafs? 
 
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			01-09-2013, 11:58 AM
			
			
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				If he was fired because he was going to make a deal for Luongo....then the leafs are in more trouble than anyone would have believed. 
  
That means non hockey guys are making hockey decisions...and i can point to numerous examples how that always ends in nothing short of failure and often times in catastrophe for the orginization. 
			
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I agree. Perhaps the longevity of Luongo's contract was beyond what ownership was comfortable with and they canned him because Burke stared them down ("I'm going to acquire Luongo, or you're going to have to fire me.")?
 
Edit: Actually, maybe it was the other way around - "I don't want Luongo - the price is too high and the contract too long. If you want him, you're going to have to fire me." - With Nonis in the wings and his history with Luongo in Vancouver, maybe that's how it played out?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			01-09-2013, 11:58 AM
			
			
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				This had been said dozens of times already but wow that was out of the blue. 
 
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Pun intended?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2013, 11:58 AM
			
			
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			I wonder if it has to do with tampering?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2013, 11:58 AM
			
			
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				If he was fired because he was going to make a deal for Luongo....then the leafs are in more trouble than anyone would have believed. 
  
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Yikes. Sounds like someone else wants to call the shots. 
 
I'm looking forward to the details.
 
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