2013 NFL Playoffs Thread

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Im sticking to facts, you resort to this juvenille stuff. Well done.

no im not bitter about losing any game the team didnt deserve to win...ever. I hate that a blown call by officials after video review cost the team a game....got a problem with that? Too damn bad. Funny how the league agreed though is it not?

And please dont try and tell me about what is good and what isnt for GB....as you have convinced me that you have no idea.

You're right, it was totally the refs fault the Packers made Christian Ponder look like John Elway yesterday. Or got totally annihilated by the same Giants team who went on to lose two games by a combined 53 points? The Packers can use the Fail Mary as an excuse all they'd like, but it is not why they didn't get the bye. They only have themselves to blame. And again, if the Seahawks lose to the 49ers in week 16, the Packers get no bye anyways. So you actually should be thanking them for giving you a chance, its the Packers who blew it.

Juvenille? Yeah, I'd say trying to blame the refs for something that ultimately didn't even matter in the end (and it didn't...the Packers still had the bye in their own hands yesterday) is pretty juvenille. And yes, it is more advantegeous to play in warm California, where the Packers track offense can excel, versus slow ass Lambeau, where the Niners beat you down style would crush the Packers.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

You're right, it was totally the refs fault the Packers made Christian Ponder look like John Elway yesterday. Or got totally annihilated by the same Giants team who went on to lose their next two games by 53 points? The Packers can use the Fail Mary as an excuse all they'd like, but it is not why they didn't get the bye. They only have themselves to blame. And again, if the Seahawks lose to the 49ers in week 16, the Packers get no bye anyways. So you actually should be thanking them for giving you a chance, its the Packers who blew it.

Juvenille? Yeah, I'd say trying to blame the refs for something that ultimately didn't even matter in the end (and it didn't...the Packers still had the bye in their own hands yesterday) is pretty juvenille. And yes, it is more advantegeous to play in warm California, where the Packers track offense can excel, versus slow ass Lambeau, where the Niners beat you down style would crush the Packers.

You havent a clue...none....didnt matter in the end? LOL.

And just an FYI...GB, 7-1 at home and 4-4 on the road 241 pts at home...191 on the road...227 pts in warm weather/dome climates...241 at home.

...but yeah...tell me some more where they play better.

[Sylvanfan]

The thing is we don't know if all other events play out the way they do, if the fail mary call goes the right way.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by transplant99

You havent a clue...none....didnt matter in the end? LOL.

And just an FYI...GB, 7-1 at home and 4-4 on the road 241 pts at home...191 on the road...227 pts in warm weather/dome climates...241 at home.

...but yeah...tell me some more where they play better.

Hmmm, 2010, no home playoff games, Super Bowl. 2011, 1 home playoff game, bust. Also, the Packers have lost 4 of their last 6 home playoff games. So some more food for thought for you.

And sorry, but the Seattle game didn't matter. If it mattered the Packers would have had no control over their destiny. They still had control, thanks to the Seahawks no less, of their own destiny as to a bye. And they blew it. Sorry that sucks for you as a Packer fan, but you do know only you and other Packer fans think you got jobbed still? Get over it already, the Packers had the 2 seed in their hands and lost to Christian Ponder. I know its beyond humiliating, but accept it and move on.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

The thing is we don't know if all other events play out the way they do, if the fail mary call goes the right way.

Sure...never know. Seattle may have not gotten the overall boost or kept the shackles on Wilson a bit longer. Maybe not have beaten a team like SF last week, which would have GB where they are right now.

Sure, they got on the bad end of that call, but had destiny in their hands going into the last week.

I can see a HOU/NE and DEN/IND divsional round, likely turning into a NE/DEN in a snowy Denver in 3 weeks.

I see a GB/SF and ATL/SEA divisonal round...and a GB/ATL NFC championship...although I think the Falcons are the most likely of the top 4 seeds in the league to be wishing they played next week, instead of having a bye and that much more time to hear about their recent playoff fumbles and over-prepare...and thus the biggest upset on paper waiting to happen, whoever plays them in 2 weeks.

This years game removed, Seattle has a couple playoff scores to settle with GB, so that would be fun.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Hmmm, 2010, no home playoff games, Super Bowl. 2011, 1 home playoff game, bust. Also, the Packers have lost 4 of their last 6 home playoff games. So some more food for thought for you.

And sorry, but the Seattle game didn't matter. If it mattered the Packers would have had no control over their destiny. They still had control, thanks to the Seahawks no less, of their own destiny as to a bye. And they blew it. Sorry that sucks for you as a Packer fan, but you do know only you and other Packer fans think you got jobbed still? Get over it already, the Packers had the 2 seed in their hands and lost to Christian Ponder. I know its beyond humiliating, but accept it and move on.

Your attempts at trying to make yourself feel better about a bloated record are so amusing, keep it up.

And no...not only Packer fans are thinking they got jobbed, they did and the entire NFL agreed including the league itself. Your revisionist history is remarkable however.

Its very simple...if the call in the Seahawk game is correctly made as evidenced by everyone who saw it other than the banker posing as a referee, then after the conclusion of yesterdays NFL schedule, the Packers would be in the number 2 seed and a bye into the following week...this is neither disputable nor that difficult to wrap your head around.

Not sure what your blathering on about other things has to do with any of it. If they had won an extra game as forced to by this decision, then yeah they would have been in that position as well, but they didnt. They did however, beat the Seahawks fair and square, they were just not awarded the win as everyone else in the league was every other game this season.

Not worth going over again and again however, and this is my last comment about it...knowing I am 100% correct in saying what i did.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by browna

Sure...never know. Seattle may have not gotten the overall boost or kept the shackles on Wilson a bit longer. Maybe not have beaten a team like SF last week, which would have GB where they are right now.

Sure, they got on the bad end of that call, but had destiny in their hands going into the last week.

I can see a HOU/NE and DEN/IND divsional round, likely turning into a NE/DEN in a snowy Denver in 3 weeks.

I see a GB/SF and ATL/SEA divisonal round...and a GB/ATL NFC championship...although I think the Falcons are the most likely of the top 4 seeds in the league to be wishing they played next week, instead of having a bye and that much more time to hear about their recent playoff fumbles and over-prepare...and thus the biggest upset on paper waiting to happen, whoever plays them in 2 weeks.

This years game removed, Seattle has a couple playoff scores to settle with GB, so that would be fun.

Sure would....you just know that the Packer players would be relishing that opportunity....as would Lynch and company.

Longshot IMO though, as I think both teams are in tough this weekend.

[transplant99]

BTW...here are the early lines


1/5 4:30 At Houston -4 Cincinnati 43.51

8:00 At Green Bay -8 Minnesota 46

1/6 1:00 At Baltimore -6.5 Indianapolis46.5

1/6 4:30 Seattle -2.5 At Washington 45.5

[ResAlien]

Sure I'll guess, picks in bold:

Colts @ Ravens
Bengals @ Texans

Seahawks @ Redskins
Vikings @ Packers

Unfortunately I don't have an opinion about the Packers/Seahawks debacle, sorry.

[Bobblehead]

Niners are releasing Brandon Jacobs today and are bringing in some kickers to look at.

I don't think Harbaugh wants to cut Akers - he has been a great teammate - but he has been so poor lately that Harbaugh can't let Akers struggles cost the team any more games.

And I would like to thank the replacement refs for giving the 49ers this bye week to allow Justin Smith a chance to heal.

[trackercowe]

I foresee a lot of people putting money on the Colts; I am quite surprised the Ravens are that big of favorite. I would expect the line to come a bit closer as the week goes on.

[PeteLFan]

The thing with the Green Bay screw job was that it actually directly cost them the game. They had no chance to make up for it. In other games refs botch calls but it's in the middle of games etc. this call directly cost the packers the game.

[OILFAN #81]

First Round:

Colts @ Ravens
Bengals @ Texans

Seahawks @ Redskins
Vikings @ Packers

That would set up:

Colts @ Broncos
Texans @ Patriots
Seahawks @ Falcons
Packers @ 49ers

Meaning:

Patriots @ Broncos
Packers @ Falcons

Superbowl:

Packers vs Broncos

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Your attempts at trying to make yourself feel better about a bloated record are so amusing, keep it up.

And no...not only Packer fans are thinking they got jobbed, they did and the entire NFL agreed including the league itself. Your revisionist history is remarkable however.

Its very simple...if the call in the Seahawk game is correctly made as evidenced by everyone who saw it other than the banker posing as a referee, then after the conclusion of yesterdays NFL schedule, the Packers would be in the number 2 seed and a bye into the following week...this is neither disputable nor that difficult to wrap your head around.

Not sure what your blathering on about other things has to do with any of it. If they had won an extra game as forced to by this decision, then yeah they would have been in that position as well, but they didnt. They did however, beat the Seahawks fair and square, they were just not awarded the win as everyone else in the league was every other game this season.

Not worth going over again and again however, and this is my last comment about it...knowing I am 100% correct in saying what i did.

Ironically, the only thing the NFL said the refs got wrong was not calling Tate for PI. They said the call was correct itself, as its a judgment call by the official. Blame the official for poor judgement, but no, the NFL did not say it screwed the Packers.

And revisionist history is really dumb because you're assuming every other element of the season plays out exactly the same. The Packers mentality is different if they win and the Seahawks different if they lose. And that effect cannot be accurately determined. There is absolutely no guarantee the season plays out the same either way. Lets say the Seahawks lose and they go .500 the rest of the way and they never beat the 49ers...no bye week anyways for the Packers. It happened, the Packers still controlled their ability to get a bye, and they didn't. Obviously if the Packers lose next week, I fully expect you to blame it on the Fail Mary, since had it not happened the Packers would have had the bye week and thus shouldn't even be playing Saturday. Which would be exceptionally lame.

[HelloHockeyFans]

Superbowl: Patriots

[Papi34]

Take it to PM boys, Jesus.

Packers, Skins, Ravens, Texans

Pats over SF in the SB

[Hockey]

I think the Bengals upset the Texans and Colts beat the Ravens in the AFC.

Packers and Seahawks both win in the NFC.

[AR_Six]

^That'd be fun weekend.

I too am surprised that the Ravens are such heavy favourites. I am not surprised that Seattle is favoured on the road, though.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

And revisionist history is really dumb because you're assuming every other element of the season plays out exactly the same.

Transplant doesn't have to assume anything. He has the ability to view parallel universes. In the one where the Seahawks lost, the Packers went 15-1 and didn't get blown out by an average New York Giants team, or lose to Christian Ponder in week 17.

[Cheerio]

I'll take the Colts, Texans, Packers and Seahawks this week. I can see the Packers and Texans winning by double digits and the Colts winning on a late TD drive from Luck or a missed FG from the Ravens