US can't adopt commie babies anymore.

[undercoverbrother]

http://www.calgaryherald.com/life/Ru...423/story.html

God forbid they get sent to a sh*thole like the US, eh? Iginla?

[HELPNEEDED]

America is worse then rusdia

[RichKlit]

Wow 740,000 children available for adoption, if they extend that ban like mentioned what are the ramifications to the children? More Orphanages, state run schools and housing, forced adoption to families in Russia that can afford another child?

They are obviously not thinking about the children and seems like a strange stance to take just to say screw you to the US.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

http://www.calgaryherald.com/life/Ru...423/story.html

God forbid they get sent to a sh*thole like the US, eh? Iginla?

Wtf does Iginla have to do with this?

[RedMileDJ]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

http://www.calgaryherald.com/life/Ru...423/story.html

God forbid they get sent to a sh*thole like the US, eh? Iginla?

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Wtf does Iginla have to do with this?

Seriously, why bring an argument over from another thread? Leave it in the other thread.

[Minnie]

Well, it would be nice if both countries could work on some way to stop adoptive parents from just putting their kids on a plane and sending them back to Mother Russia when they feel incapable of dealing with said child. Apparently this was the method they chose, but not sure this does anything more than hurt them rather than the US.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Red-Mile-DJ

Seriously, why bring an argument over from another thread? Leave it in the other thread.

Oh he's talking about Puckluck...

Ok, seriously. I'm all for giving banned posters a second chance, but if we're going to let Puckluck come back as a new user, and allow him to post the same kind of crap he used to post, than can we at least do it in a way that doesn't drag Jarome Iginla down with him?

Sorry, I know this is completely off-topic, but I can't be the only one that read the first post in this thread and started wondering why Iggy was being linked to Russian orphans.

Edit: In hindsight, I suppose this isn't the best place for this kind of post. I've already posted it though, so I'll leave it's continued existence to Mod discretion.

[Cowperson]

One of my female USA Facebook friends adopted a roughly 12 year old Russian girl out of an orphanage about six years ago. It's been a tumultuous time but probably no more than a lot of the angst and trouble other teenage girls can find. Mother and daughter are close though.

In the end, it's their country and they can set the rules.

Cowperson

[Flame Of Liberty]

It's a dumb law that takes orphans hostage, but how is this possible in the almighty 'Murica:

Putin said U.S. authorities routinely let Americans suspected of violence toward Russian adoptees go unpunished — a clear reference to Dima Yakovlev, a Russian toddler for whom the bill is named. The child was adopted by Americans and then died in 2008 after his father left him in a car in broiling heat for hours. The father was found not guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by RichKlit

Wow 740,000 children available for adoption, if they extend that ban like mentioned what are the ramifications to the children? More Orphanages, state run schools and housing, forced adoption to families in Russia that can afford another child?

They are obviously not thinking about the children and seems like a strange stance to take just to say screw you to the US.

Truth be told, the US has a whole lot of kids in foster care who also need parents.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

It's a dumb law that takes orphans hostage, but how is this possible in the almighty 'Murica:

Putin said U.S. authorities routinely let Americans suspected of violence toward Russian adoptees go unpunished — a clear reference to Dima Yakovlev, a Russian toddler for whom the bill is named. The child was adopted by Americans and then died in 2008 after his father left him in a car in broiling heat for hours. The father was found not guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

I would say how is it possible that a leader of a so-called major world power could be so stupid to think that one case means that US authorities routinely let it go, but it is Russia so I guess you can't expect much from them.

[Flame Of Liberty]

Originally Posted by moon

I would say how is it possible that a leader of a so-called major world power could be so stupid to think that one case means that US authorities routinely let it go, but it is Russia so I guess you can't expect much from them.

I'm not sure what exactly constitutes "routinely let go" but

However, the Russian authorities point to the deaths of 19 Russian-born children adopted by American parents in the past decade, and lawmakers named the bill after a boy who died of heat stroke in Virginia after his adoptive father left him locked in a car for hours.

Putin reiterated Russian complaints that U.S. courts have been too lenient on parents in such cases, saying Russia has inadequate access to Russian-born children in the United States despite a bilateral agreement that entered into force on November 1.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8BQ06K20121227

Again, not defending the Russian reaction at all, just that the OP didn't paint the full picture.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

Truth be told, the US has a whole lot of kids in foster care who also need parents.

That was my first thought.

Is there an issue with adopting American kids re guidelines such as above certain age groups can't adopt or is it just simpler and cheaper to adopt a Russian?

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by Bagor

That was my first thought.

Is there an issue with adopting American kids re guidelines such as above certain age groups can't adopt or is it just simpler and cheaper to adopt a Russian?

I would imagine that most children who fall through the cracks in the US are children who have mental or physical health problems, and parents who want a pretty shiny new baby don't want a six year old who has severe emotional scarring from an abusive family situation, so those kids go through foster care until they're 18 and often times end up in poverty. Probably via Russian adoption they can get a baby without a lot of emotional/physical baggage.

[Ice]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

Truth be told, the US has a whole lot of kids in foster care who also need parents.

There aren't a lot of babies looking for homes, and most parents really want a baby. Most foster babies are adopted by their foster parents or placed with relatives. My family has fostered many children throughout my life (and adopted three of the babies/toddlers we fostered) and its not easy. We have also had our hearts ripped out when we got a baby at 5 weeks who was in our family until she was 14 months old and then taken from us because they found blood relatives in Texas who previously didn't know this darling girl existed. It's gut wrenching and after that last incident, we couldn't do it anymore.

Most available children are older and have siblings, which obviously social services prefers not to separate. Even if you take siblings, like my family, it takes five years of court dates, supervised parental visits when they're out of jail and you can still have these kids taken from you if they find blood relatives who will take them, even if they've been in your family for five years. Terminating parental rights shouldn't be easy but common sense should prevail as well. Can you imagine having a two year old girl live with you for four years and then moved to a new family? It's horrible for the foster parents and the child.

[Thor]

Need more abortions

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

I would imagine that most children who fall through the cracks in the US are children who have mental or physical health problems, and parents who want a pretty shiny new baby don't want a six year old who has severe emotional scarring from an abusive family situation, so those kids go through foster care until they're 18 and often times end up in poverty. Probably via Russian adoption they can get a baby without a lot of emotional/physical baggage.

No, they can get a blond haired white kid but they are just as effed up