2012-2013 Toronto Blue Jays Off Season Thread

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by zukes

Was listening to MLB Network radio the other day and Jim Bowden seems to be of the opinion that the Jays should go and sign Rafael Soriano to close on a pillow deal (one year only but high $$$). That would move Janssen and Santos into set up roles, possibly along with Oliver if he doesn't retire.

His thoughts are, they've gone this far, may as well go all in.

I agree, get it done AA, it's only one draft pick and some Rogers cash.

Bowden says they are the AL East favourites already.

I like it although I imagine Soriano would want multiple years. Can someone remind me how he left NYY? He opted out of another year worth $14M, correct? Was it because he wanted to close (but I thought he opted out well before Rivera dined for another year) or he thinks he can get more money or more years this year?

[Jason14h]

Was it because he wanted to close (but I thought he opted out well before Rivera dined for another year) or he thinks he can get more money or more years this year?

Boras thinks closers are still important, the rest of the league has realized they are not

[Matty81]

Craving baseball - What a great year to have the WBC in march... Will be decent baseball to watch in just 2 months and just 7 weeks until first players hit training camp. Am starting to wonder if I'll even bother watching the NHL if a last minute lockout deal happens.

[GirlySports]

Need a baseball fix, Sportsnet is replaying the entire 1992 World Series!

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/201..._world_series/

Game 1: Tuesday, Dec. 25
3 p.m. local time (Sportsnet East, Ontario, West and Pacific)
7 p.m. ET/4 p.m. PT (Sportsnet ONE)
Game 2: Wednesday, Dec. 26
3 p.m. ET/Noon PT (Sportsnet East, Ontario, West and Pacific)
7 p.m. ET/4 p.m. PT (Sportsnet ONE)
Game 3: Thursday, Dec. 27
2 p.m. local time (Sportsnet East, Ontario, West and Pacific)
7 p.m. ET/4 p.m. PT (Sportsnet ONE)
Game 4: Friday, Dec. 28
1 p.m. PT (Sportsnet Pacific)
2 p.m. local time (Sportsnet East, Ontario and West)
7 p.m. ET/4 p.m. PT (Sportsnet ONE)
Game 5: Saturday, Dec. 29
3 p.m. ET/Noon PT (Sportsnet East, Ontario, West and Pacific)
Game 6: Sunday, Dec. 30
Noon ET/9 a.m. PT (Sportsnet East, Ontario, West and Pacific)
7 p.m. ET/4 p.m. PT (Sportsnet ONE)

[chalms04]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_World_Series

Boxscores of each game in the notes section.

[GirlySports]

This is a disaster for the Jays... I hope they can come back.

[MRCboicgy]

Ed Sprague!
Clutch.

Holy cow, Tim McCarver was just as brutal to listen to in 1992 as he is in 2012

[ricoFlame]

Originally Posted by MRCboicgy

Ed Sprague!
Clutch.

Holy cow, Tim McCarver was just as brutal to listen to in 1992 as he is in 2012

Derek Bell working that 8-pitch walk is an often forgotten, but huge at-bat in Jays history.

...and McCarver sucks.

[GirlySports]

Back in 1992 Americans who casually watched the World Series must have thought Game 3 was on the other side of the world!

[VERVE]

Wow, the replay of the '92 WS sure brought back some great memories. Tom Henke (the terminator), Jimmy Key, Alomar, slim David Wells, Devo, Johnny O and of course Carter...

Bad calls were still the same 'bad calls' that are made today...the non-call on a triple play by Gruber...ouch

The Braves' tomahawk chop mocked by Alomar and Gruber pissed off Braves fans.

The Braves rotation of Smoltz, Glavine & Avery were no-pushovers.

'Neon' Deion Sanders...perhaps the last multi-sport player in North America who was arguably a star in both NFL and MLB and played in both respective sporting championships.

It was nice to see the SkyDome filled to capacity and a raucous crowd showed up. That was certainly special. Americans got a taste of Canadian hospitality. A foreign country winning the WS was something else but with a black manager at the helm was icing on the cake.

[Roof-Daddy]

The 6th and deciding game of the 92 World Series starting now on Snet. Excited to watch this game.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

The 6th and deciding game of the 92 World Series starting now on Snet. Excited to watch this game.

This is one of the best games you'll ever see! Absolute classic!

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

This is one of the best games you'll ever see! Absolute classic!

Watched it as it happened. Excited to see it again, I should have said.

[Alberta_Beef]

So with all the guys the Jays have been picking up and signing here is a list of all the guys that appear to involved with the Blue Jays and their affiliates currently.

All info is from mlb.com and milb.com

Toronto Blue Jays 40 man/active roster:

Pitchers
Mark Buehrle
Brett Cecil
Evan Crawford
Steve Delabar
R.A. Dickey
Kyle Drabek
Sam Dyson
J.A. Happ
Drew Hutchison
Casey Janssen
Jeremy Jeffress
Chad Jenkins
Josh Johnson
Brad Lincoln
Aaron Loup
Dustin McGowan
Brandon Morrow
Darren Oliver
Luis Perez
Esmil Rogers
Ricky Romero
Sergio Santos

Catchers
J.P. Arencibia
A.J. Jimenez
Josh Thole

Infielders
David Cooper
Ryan Goins
Maicer Izturis
Brett Lawrie
Adam Lind
Jose Reyes

Outfielders
Jose Bautista
Emilio Bonifacio
Melky Cabrera
Russ Canzler
Rajai Davis
Anthony Gose
Colby Rasmus
Moises Sierra

Designated Hitter
Edwin Encarnacion

Toronto Blue Jays Non-Roster Invitees:

Pitchers
Justin Germano
Alex Hinshaw
Ramon Ortiz
Juan Perez
Rich Thompson
Claudio Vargas
Neil Wagner

Infielders
Luis Jiminez
Jim Negrych
Eugenio Velez

Outfielders
Ryan Langerhans
Ricardo Nanita

For all minor league rosters the following disclaimer accompanied each of the rosters:

Please note these rosters are for off-season purposes and do not necessarily reflect actual Opening Day rosters. Players will be assigned to Minor League teams at the conclusion of Spring Training.

Buffalo Bisons (Class AAA) Off-Season Roster:

Pitchers
Alvido Jiminez
Efrain Nieves
Mickey Storey
Tyson Brummett
Joel Carreno

Catchers
Mike Nickeas

Infielders
Mike McCoy

Outfielders
Kenen Bailli

New Hampshire Fisher Cats (Class AA) Off-Season Roster:

Pitchers
Marcus Stroman
Matt Daly
Deck McGuire
Ryan Tepera
John Stilson
Tryston Magnuson
Fernando Hernandez
Scott Gracey

Catchers
Scott Ochinko
Joel Galarraga

Infielders
Ryan Schimpf
Gabe Jacobo

Outfielders
John Tolisano
Brian Van Kirk
Brad Glen
Brad McElroy

Dunedin Blue Jays (Class A Advanced) Off-Season Roster:

Pitchers
Dustin Antolin
Jesse Hernandez
Matt Wright
Danny Barnes
Alan Farina
Marcus Walden
Casey Lawrence
Randy Boone
Chuck Ghysels
Sean Nolin
Brandon Kaye
John Anderson
Egan Smith
Dayton Marze
Boomer Potts

Catchers
Pierce Rankin
Jack Murphy

Infielders
Kevin Ahrens
Oliver Dominguez
Jon Talley
Jon Berti
Amadeo Zazueta
Peter Mooney
Kevin Nolan

Outfielders
Marcus Knecht
Kenny Wilson
Kevin Pillar
Justin Jackson
Jonathan Jones

Lansing Lugnut (A) Off-Season Roster:

Pitchers
Brandon Berl
Blake McFarland
Ajay Mayer
Shawn Griffith
Aaron Sanchez
Ian Kadish
Kramer Champlin
Aleson Escalante
Philip Brua
Casey Beck
Tyler Ybarra
Matthew Smoral

Catchers
Aaron Munoz
Chris Schaeffer

Infielders
K.C Hobson
Kevin Patterson
Chris Peters
Shane Opitz
Andy Fermin
Gustavo Pierre
Jason Leblebijian
Andy Burns

Outfielders
Chris Hawkins
Nick Baligod
Dalton Pompey
Anthony Alford
Marcus Brisker
Michael Crouse

Vancouver Canadians (Class A Short Season) Off-Season Roster:

Pitchers
Zach Breault
Taylor Cole
Ben White
Colton Turner
Eric Brown
Matt Johnson
Jonathan Lucas
Nicholas Purdy
Andrew Sikula
Tucker Donahue
Javier Avendano
Kyle Anderson
Griffin Murphy
Will Browning
Roberto Osuna
Daniel Norris
Brad Delatte
Travis Garrett
Drew Permison

Catchers
Daniel Klein
Tucker Frawley
Santiago Nessy
Leo Hernandez

Infielders
Balbino Fuenmayor
Jorge Flores
Derrick Chung
Kellen Sweeney
Art Charles
Christian Lopes
Daniel Arcila
Bryan Kervin
Eric Phillips
Roan Salas

Outfielders
Matt Newman
Dwight Smith Jr.
Ian Parmley
Carlos Ramirez
D.J Davis
Ronald Melendez

Bluefield Blue Jay (Rookie) Off-Season Roster:

Pitchers
Myles Duvall
Deivy Estrada
Les Williams
Jeremy Gabryszwski
Alonzo Gonzalez
Alberto Tirado
Justin James
Colby Broussard
Julio Carmona
Shane Davis
Brandon Dorsett
Joe Spano
Denny Valdez
Tom Robson
Carlos Pina
Tucker Jensen

Catchers
Hector Alvarez

Infielders
Emilio Guerrero
Jorge Vega-Rosado
Jordan Leyland
Matthew Dean
Christian Frias
Dickie Thon
Seth Connor
Justin Atkinson

Outfielders
Melvin Garcia
Eric Arce
Jacob Anderson
Nico Taylor
Angel Gomez

Dominican Summer League Blue Jays (Rookie) Off-Season Roster:

Pitchers
Ronald Manchego
Luis Zerpa
Jose Brito
Manuel Lopez
Osman Gutierrez
Miguel Burgos
Greylor Conde
Jorge Contreras
Jimmy Cordero
Manuel Cordova
Luis De La Rosa
Jose Fernandez
Simon Paulino
Angel Perdomo
Carlos Rodriguez
Alejandro Solarte
Jonathan Torres
Miguel Castro
Francis Eduaro
Juan Cabrera

Catchers
Kervin Santiago
Juan Kelly
Andres Sotillo
Roberto Vahlis

Infielders
Angel Rohas
Deiferson Barreto
Ronniel Demorizi
Edwin Fuentes
Gustavo Perinan
Rolando Segovia

Outfielders
Cesar Barazarte
Luis Martin
Andres De Aza
Juan Tejada
Leudy Garcia

Gulf Coast League Blue Jays (Rookie) Off-Season Roster:

Pitchers
Adonys Cardona
Adaric Kelly
Brady Dragmire
Oscar Cabrera
Wilmin Lara
Yeyfry Del Rosario
Jairo Labourt
Ryan Borucki
Chase DeJong
Mark Biggs
Justin D'Alessandro
Francisco Gracesqui
Tyler Gonzales
Zakery Wasilewski
Shane Dawson
Tim Brechbuehler
Jesus Tinoco
Bobby Brosnahan
Bryan Longpre
Zak Adams

Catchers
George Carroll
Jorge Saez
John Silviano
Alexys Rodriguez

Infielders
Gabriel Cenas
Dawel Lugo
Shaun Valeriote
Daniel Devonshire
Will Dupont
Trey Pascazi
Cody Bartlett
Mitch Nay

Outfielders
Derrick Loveless
Dennis Jones
Josh Almonte
Nathan DeSouza
Jesus Gonzalez

[browna]

Clearly the most nerve wracking baseball game I've watched. A loss means Game 7 in Atlanta.

McCarver was a chore to listen to, Sean McDonough was ok...his call in 1993 was actually pretty good, "and still World Champion, Toronto Blue Jays", sounded like a boxing title fight call.

Good start by Maldonado with the HR...but you couldn't think that could hold up all game.

IIRC, the Blue Jays relievers before Ward and Henke were wild cards (Stottlemyre and Wells in this game), so when they got to Ward, and then Henke, you figured it was in the bag. Then Henke blew it in the 9th.

Cue Dave Winfield's (Winfield wants noise!) heroics (upcoming) in the 11th, his only post season career double, at the age of 41.

Also vividly remember the Coca Cola commercial in the first break after the final out as it was th first one I can remember that was so specific and current to celebrate the win...its not on Youtube, only the 1993 one which was identical for being shown right after the game.

[GirlySports]

bottom of the 9th right now, I'm still nervous!

[nik-]

god damn Otis Nixon is so ugly

[GirlySports]

Jays were very lucky to get out of that 9th inning. Gant stupidly swing at a 3-1 pitch around his eyes.

[browna]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Jays were very lucky to get out of that 9th inning. Gant stupidly swing at a 3-1 pitch around his eyes.

That and Maldanado almost missing the line drive out #2...and thankfully threw it high to the plate on the tying run and it hits the backstop...he throws it low and it likely bounces around a lot more and the winning run comes in too.

[GirlySports]

Who's this Pat Tabler guy?