12-21-2012, 06:53 PM
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#101
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
Since the NRA played the old "it's really the fault of violent video games!" card:
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I was going to say something similar. We in Canada and many other countries are exposed to the same video games, media, etc. so that excuse doesn't fly.
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12-21-2012, 07:14 PM
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#102
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Wouldn't it be cheaper and more effective to put psychologists in schools instead of armed guards?
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12-21-2012, 07:21 PM
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#103
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Originally Posted by LockedOut
I was going to say something similar. We in Canada and many other countries are exposed to the same video games, media, etc. so that excuse doesn't fly.
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I won't dispute the correlation, but I am curious about how they factor in piracy of computer games.
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12-21-2012, 08:16 PM
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#105
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A Fiddler Crab
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chicago
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Armed Police Officers unable to prevent mass shooting moments before NRA speech calling for Armed Officers in schools:
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2012/...ty-shooting-2/
4 Dead, 3 State troopers wounded.
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12-21-2012, 08:19 PM
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#106
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Originally Posted by driveway
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The incident started at a small church in Frankstown Township in Blair County, which is near Altoona. When it was over, three state troopers had to be hospitalized for injuries.
Police are investigating five crime scenes along Juniata Valley Road in Hollidaysburg.
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Not enough God in Churches.
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12-21-2012, 08:40 PM
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#107
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
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The question of how to address in school safety should be given to school principals, school leaders and parents - the people who are immediately involved in the raising and protection of children in schools on a daily basis. Any discussion of the issue that doesn't involve the views of school leaders shouldn't be taken seriously.
The opinions of the NRA ought to be irrelevant in this discussion.
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12-21-2012, 09:28 PM
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#108
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyB
The question of how to address in school safety should be given to school principals, school leaders and parents - the people who are immediately involved in the raising and protection of children in schools on a daily basis. Any discussion of the issue that doesn't involve the views of school leaders shouldn't be taken seriously.
The opinions of the NRA ought to be irrelevant in this discussion.
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It is relevant because they have a plan!
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12-21-2012, 09:38 PM
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#109
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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The solution - priests packing heat.
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12-21-2012, 10:07 PM
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#110
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Portland, OR
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From the local newspaper comment section:
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The NRA speech was best factual light shed since the gettysburg address...funny how people just cant face the truth....
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12-21-2012, 10:10 PM
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#111
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Franchise Player
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How f'd up is a society that would consider needing armed guards in every school?
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12-21-2012, 10:29 PM
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#113
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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Studies have shown that highly visible efforts to increase school safety, such as cameras and armed guards, decrease students’ feelings of security, said Eric Rossen, a clinical psychologist and administrator at the National Association of School Psychologists. That’s another risk with bulletproof backpacks, he said. Children who don’t feel safe also don’t feel connected or understood, ultimately undermining their ability to learn and to form trusting relationships, he said.
"Despite our intuition at times like these, schools remain one of the safest places for children in America,” Rossen said. “So statistically, the psychological costs outweigh any potential benefit,” he added, referring to bulletproof backpacks and other such efforts.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...9_story_1.html
And yeah, the whole Columbine thing makes the NRA suggestion absolutely ridiculous.
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12-21-2012, 11:25 PM
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#114
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Took an arrow to the knee
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Toronto
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CNN comments section actually has a good one for once, in the wake of the shooting in PA where 3 cops were injured:
NRA releases plan to have armed guard with every police officer in country.
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12-22-2012, 04:03 AM
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#115
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Lifetime Suspension
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The NRA could care less about deaths, they care about their kickbacks from gun manufactures, they don't get money from video game producers or movie producers...so it must be their fault.
After his ignorent comments I would like to see a stick of dynamite up Wayne LaPierre's arse just to watch a few thousand people chase him with lighters.
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12-22-2012, 10:09 AM
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#116
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Usually with these mass killings these wackos end up killing each themselves at the end, anyway. What would having guards there do to prevent them from risking it? They clearly have a death wish anyway.
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12-22-2012, 11:14 AM
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#117
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.
Best press conference ever.
Two highlights for me:
1) Putting the onus on the press and Hollywood movies for glamorizing violence, then using Natural Born Killers as his movie example. As others have said, the ironing is delicious.
2) Lamenting the fact that the government *refuses* to create an active database of the "mentally ill" What's so wrong with an app that tells me who the nearest mentally ill person is?
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One of the worst parts of this "mental health awakening" is that we have further pushed the stigma of mentally ill to mean dangerous and sympathetic.
50% of people will suffer from mental illness at some point in their lives. Now people think Aspergers makes people more likely to be violent. This is a step backwards, not forward imo
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12-22-2012, 11:25 AM
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#119
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Took an arrow to the knee
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Toronto
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Hope for the world . . . fading.
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12-22-2012, 11:56 AM
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#120
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First Line Centre
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Until they get their gun laws in place and start removing the automatic weapons from society, I think there should be a police officer at every school. Perhaps they should also consider training and arming the Principal.
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