If your dog is scaring somebody, please restrain your dog

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by J-bo09

Never had a complaint walking down the alley to the park.

In my experience, somebody flagrantly disregarding a bylaw will be just as dismissive of a complaint from somebody leveled directly at them.

J-bo09 - if you lived on my street and I asked you to keep your dog on a leash, would you?

[burn_this_city]

I hate it when people pass their irrational, baseless fears on to their children. I grew up with a kid who was deathly afraid of dogs because his mother told him they were all dangerous.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Luckily, I have my gloves on so I can kind of push them away with my hands and my legs (I won't touch a filthy dog with my bare hands unless there is a sink nearby where I can wash). But my daughter is losing her junk. In her panic, I can't get her to stand still because these heaving, panting balls of nastiness are snarfing all over her. I picked her up and it made them want to sniff her and get their slobber on her even more. I was so fataing pissed.

I'm really surprised your daughter has a problem with dogs.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by J-bo09

Im sure kids are fleeing in terror at my 15 pound Jack Russel s hitzu cross.

Either way, it's the law. Is it your position that people should only follow the laws they agree with?

Because I don't think your Ghandi on some grand and noble civil disobedience for freedom thing here.

[Jbo]

Originally Posted by Sliver

In my experience, somebody flagrantly disregarding a bylaw will be just as dismissive of a complaint from somebody leveled directly at them.

J-bo09 - if you lived on my street and I asked you to keep your dog on a leash, would you?

Sure I would. You make it sound like my dog runs wild. All I said was that I usually just let my dog walk next to me a block down the alley as we head to the park to play.

If a neighbour was specific and said this bothered them, would I stress about having him on a leash...of course not. I always have the leash with me, and my dog is trained.

However, I've noticed you have ignored my points. I know your history with dogs. You have stated that you use to egg them on when is cars. You have stated how much you hate them. So what happened to your daughter to make her so afraid?

In this incident, I never once said that the owner was right. Just that your reaction to the situation, and subsequent whining about it shows how you handled it.

If your daughter is afraid, why not introduce them in a safe and calm enviroment? Oh right, you have an irrational hate to the dirty filthy mongrels. However, if you took a few minutes to show her that there is nothing to be afraid, maybe next time this is a non incident.

Then again, why blame yourself, dog owners are easier!

[YYC in LAX]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

Cowperson

AMAZING picture. Reminds me of my Gold Retreivers we had. RIP Chief, Chance, and Chase. Loved watching them run together...in designated off leash areas.

While OP might be a bit harsh, I do agree that dog owners should keep their dogs leashed where they are legally entitled to do so. We went pretty hardcore on the puppy/obedience classes and had nearly fully control of our dogs.

Yeah, I dunno what I'm really talking about here but be responsible out there I guess.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

I hate it when people pass their irrational, baseless fears on to their children. I grew up with a kid who was deathly afraid of dogs because his mother told him they were all dangerous.

It's not irrational and it's not baseless to be apprehensive around dogs. It's much easier to help children overcome anxieties around dogs if everybody follows the rules of engagement. Dogs should be on leashes, and when they're not, it can exacerbate what may be an already tense situation.

I love how some of you guys accept as fact that I've passed a fear of dogs onto my daughter. It's funny because I'm not scared of them. I just don't like them for many good reasons that we've been through before. My son loves dogs and he's been raised in the same environment as my daughter. Has it occurred to you that a barking, sharp-toothed, leashless animal might just be scary to some people? That's hardly even irrational.

For the record, we do work with my daughter on her fear. I know you have to tolerate dogs in our society so I make sure she knows how to be around them and I push her out of her comfort zone bit by bit. It's frustrating when an experience like this (a dog owner breaking the law) sets us back a peg, though.

Dogs can be a tough thing for some people. Our neighbours have four completely wild rotties and other various scary/ridiculous breeds. They refer to them as, and I quote, "vicious but snuggly." So on one hand I have to teach my girl to be appropriately cautious around these dogs that want to kill us whenever we walk by their house, but be all hugs and kisses when two strange-but-friendly dogs come up to her unrestrained? She'll learn this stuff, but you're expecting a lot out of her and me as a father if you think we can sort all this out for her overnight. She's just six FFS.

[Jbo]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

Either way, it's the law. Is it your position that people should only follow the laws they agree with?

Because I don't think your Ghandi on some grand and noble civil disobedience for freedom thing here.

Just so we are clear here, I'm sure you have never sped in your car. I'm sure you have always shoveled your walk within 24 hours. Never let your grass grow to long. Never played music loud. Never had a beer off your property. Nope, nothing. I'm not some rightous prick that thinks it is an entitled right. I never said I was Ghandi.

In my case, I let my dog walk a block with no leash, but if it bother someone I would gladly oblige.

[Traditional_Ale]

I love Sliver's narrative quite a bit. But I also agree. He and his daughter deserve to walk on city streets without fear of unsolicited interaction with dogs. Especially one (or more) that isn't/are not on a leash. It's not like he took his daughter to an off-leash park, akin to throwing a child into a pool to see if they might swim.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by J-bo09

Sure I would. You make it sound like my dog runs wild. All I said was that I usually just let my dog walk next to me a block down the alley as we head to the park to play.

If a neighbour was specific and said this bothered them, would I stress about having him on a leash...of course not. I always have the leash with me, and my dog is trained.

However, I've noticed you have ignored my points. I know your history with dogs. You have stated that you use to egg them on when is cars. You have stated how much you hate them. So what happened to your daughter to make her so afraid?

In this incident, I never once said that the owner was right. Just that your reaction to the situation, and subsequent whining about it shows how you handled it.

If your daughter is afraid, why not introduce them in a safe and calm enviroment? Oh right, you have an irrational hate to the dirty filthy mongrels. However, if you took a few minutes to show her that there is nothing to be afraid, maybe next time this is a non incident.

Then again, why blame yourself, dog owners are easier!

Dude, put your dog on a leash. What, do you litter until somebody tells you to stop? Why do people have to actively approach you to get you to stop doing something you shouldn't be doing? I don't even get how you can feel justified with you position on this. It's actually ridiculous.

And yes, I am blaming dog owners for having their dogs off leash and jumping all over me and my daughter. That's because it's their fault.

[Jbo]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Dude, put your dog on a leash. What, do you litter until somebody tells you to stop? Why do people have to actively approach you to get you to stop doing something you shouldn't be doing? I don't even get how you can feel justified with you position on this. It's actually ridiculous.

And yes, I am blaming dog owners for having their dogs off leash and jumping all over me and my daughter. That's because it's their fault.

So now the dog was jumping all over your daughter?

I think your position is a little extreme, but I already told you my thoughts. WHy start a thread if you don't wanna hear opinions?

[Minnie]

You get dogs in cars all riled up just for ####s and giggles? Wow.

[polak]

The worst, most ANNOYING thing on the planet is when someone brings their dog to an ON-LEASH park or field where people are playing sports and running around and takes them off their leash and starts playing fetch and what not.

Almost every single time I've seen this happen (and it's often) the dog loses focus on fetch and starts interrupting the game and twice I have seen this end with an incident. Once, a bite and the other time the dog got a swift kick in the face, much to the dismay of the stupid owner (who in all fairness, apologized for the dog).

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by J-bo09

So now the dog was jumping all over your daughter?

I think your position is a little extreme, but I already told you my thoughts. WHy start a thread if you don't wanna hear opinions?

This thread was a request for dog owners to restrain their pet when it is scaring somebody. You think that's asking too much and that's fine. Just glad I don't live by you.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Sliver

My daughter is really scared of dogs (she's six). We're trying to work on it with her. "Fortunately," everybody I know has at least two dogs so there is plenty of opportunity to coach her on how to be with dogs...let them sniff you, stand still instead of running away, etc. She makes slow and steady progress, then there is always some ######ed dog owner that comes along and puts us back at square one.

So this weekend some dumb lady was walking her two dogs with no leash. My daughter and I were walking along the sidewalk. Right away I could tell they were friendly so I wasn't concerned at all for her safety, but she was completely terrified. Of course the dumb owner is like twenty feet back thinking it's the cutest thing to watch her mutts interact with a little girl. She's saying all the usual terrible dog owner things like "they're just saying hi!", "they're really friendly!", "they just want to give you a kiss!", etc.

Luckily, I have my gloves on so I can kind of push them away with my hands and my legs (I won't touch a filthy dog with my bare hands unless there is a sink nearby where I can wash). But my daughter is losing her junk. In her panic, I can't get her to stand still because these heaving, panting balls of nastiness are snarfing all over her. I picked her up and it made them want to sniff her and get their slobber on her even more. I was so fataing pissed.

Then the owner finally saunters over to talk about her dogs to me. This one is very vocal. This one is about four or five...we're not sure because she's a rescue and we're so great because we rescue crappy dogs people throw away for a reason, etc. Then she tries to coach my daughter on how to pet the dogs. Um, no thanks. We couldn't have made it any more clear we didn't want to be anywhere near her gross dogs.

Anyway, my point is if you have a dog please don't assume everybody wants to touch it/be touched by it. And if you can see somebody is scared of it, grab your dog and GTFO. My six year-old doesn't need a little lesson on how to love mutts from some stranger.

Seems like as much of a parenting issue as it is a dog owner issue.

[Sliver]

Okay, super parent. What would you have done differently?

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Seems like as much of a parenting issue as it is a dog owner issue.

How so?

Some people don't like dogs.

Some people do.

If you have a dog, be responsible and keep it on a leash.

I fail to see how any of this is a parenting issue.

I suspect people are reacting more to the poster than the points he is making.

[Rerun]

The owner is at fault. All dogs should be on a leash in a residential area unless they are specifically in an off-leash park.

But all that aside, I wish Sliver would introduce, in the proper environment, his daughter to some stable, well behaved dogs.... definitely start with the smaller breeds though.

I'd love to introduce her to Ryley but at 2-1/2 years old and weighing 75 lbs he's not the best first option for your daughter. Maybe in another couple of years when he calms down a little more. He'd never hurt your daughter but in his enthusiasm to greet and play with your child he can get a little over powering.

Please introduce your daughter to some well behaved dogs. You are doing her an immense disservice if you let her fear of dogs grow into a phobia <<ahem... cough cough>>

[Jbo]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

How so?

Some people don't like dogs.

Some people do.

If you have a dog, be responsible and keep it on a leash.

I fail to see how any of this is a parenting issue.

I suspect people are reacting more to the poster than the points he is making.

Maybe...but with reason.

In fairness, we have no idea what happened, besides the account of one obviously biased poster.

[Jbo]

Originally Posted by Sliver

This thread was a request for dog owners to restrain their pet when it is scaring somebody. You think that's asking too much and that's fine. Just glad I don't live by you.

and vice-versa.