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Old 12-05-2012, 03:13 PM   #1461
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Yet they can't make the doors stop in the same spot?
It's a chicken and egg thing. There's no need to have the doors line up when you have a wide open, traditional platform. And without doors that line up, making gates and barriers on every platform is not feasible.
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:17 PM   #1462
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Yet they can't make the doors stop in the same spot?
I think all of Calgary's LRVs have doors in pretty close to the same spot.

However, in a system like Calgary's which is struggling to provide enough capacity, why would you limit yourselves in a future order in it was shown that a different door layout provided more capacity? (This may or may not come up with next years order, since the vehicles will be a new manufacturer, and there's a good chance that the cars may be more interconnected inside with less driver's cabs)

The system would require more than just having cars with the doors in the same place, there would have to be some kind of sensor system that would control the cars and stop them at exactly the same spot every time.
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:29 PM   #1463
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I think all of Calgary's LRVs have doors in pretty close to the same spot.

However, in a system like Calgary's which is struggling to provide enough capacity, why would you limit yourselves in a future order in it was shown that a different door layout provided more capacity? (This may or may not come up with next years order, since the vehicles will be a new manufacturer, and there's a good chance that the cars may be more interconnected inside with less driver's cabs)

The system would require more than just having cars with the doors in the same place, there would have to be some kind of sensor system that would control the cars and stop them at exactly the same spot every time.
Like I said, I don't really understand the industry or how the vendors go about creating new models of train cars so it's really hard for me to disagree, I'm just saying, that in principle, standardization is usually the way to go for these types of businesses.

P.S. My railing suggestion in the other thread with manual gates that open outwards from the train would work with the current system fyi
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:37 PM   #1464
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P.S. My railing suggestion in the other thread with manual gates that open outwards from the train would work with the current system fyi
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:39 PM   #1465
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See. My system would also benefit the gene pool!
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:51 PM   #1466
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Here's an interesting item:

Beyond.ca co-founder Shelton Kwan (screen name rage2) and his girlfriend accept a challenge to give up their cars for a week and rely exclusively on walking and transit. It's for a good cause as they are using this challenge to solicit donations to the Calgary Food Bank.

For those who don't know, beyond.ca is a Calgary-based automotive enthusiast forum, so the "give up your car" challenge has a much larger impact there than it would in most other online communities.

Thread link (warning, some NSFW language): http://forums.beyond.ca/st/361220/th...arted-dec-3-9/

Daily blog series documenting the week: http://www.beyond.ca/car-less-in-cal...nge/20697.html
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:55 PM   #1467
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For those who don't know, beyond.ca is a Calgary-based automotive enthusiast forum, so the "give up your car" challenge has a much larger impact there than it would in most other online communities.
Wow, that would be like people on CP giving up hockey for a week. Oh wait.

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http://www.660news.com/news/local/ar...ridor-complete
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Lisa Grant -Tricia Flatley Dec 09, 2012 08:56:24 AM




Just as the West LRT line is finished, so is the facelift for the downtown C-Train corridor.

Five years and $183-million worth of work included the replacement of ten LRT stations, replacing lighting, sidewalks and streetscapes

Transportation minister Ric McIver tells the Calgary Sun, it's an investment integral to the wellbeing of Calgarians.

Over the years, city officials have said the upgrade was also important in reducing crime along the 7th Avenue corridor.

Some 185,000 trips per day are made on the route in and out of the downtown core.

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Old 12-09-2012, 11:26 AM   #1469
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Here's an interesting item:

Beyond.ca co-founder Shelton Kwan (screen name rage2) and his girlfriend accept a challenge to give up their cars for a week and rely exclusively on walking and transit. It's for a good cause as they are using this challenge to solicit donations to the Calgary Food Bank.

For those who don't know, beyond.ca is a Calgary-based automotive enthusiast forum, so the "give up your car" challenge has a much larger impact there than it would in most other online communities.

Thread link (warning, some NSFW language): http://forums.beyond.ca/st/361220/th...arted-dec-3-9/

Daily blog series documenting the week: http://www.beyond.ca/car-less-in-cal...nge/20697.html
Arbour Lake to Kincora at night? Tough trip to serve effectively. We have to remember that in most cities, communities like Kincora would have no transit service at all. Interesting reading his experiences. Seems pretty typical - his downtown commute is easy and quick, but other trips around the city are hit and miss depending on where and when he is going.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:36 AM   #1470
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Seems pretty typical - his downtown commute is easy and quick, but other trips around the city are hit and miss depending on where and when he is going.
I think that's true wether you live in Kincora or the Beltline. This city has put a major focus on getting you to and from your job (which makes sense of course), but it would be nice to see a bit of a shift towards public transportation that helps you get around the city for "non work" trips. Because for that, you pretty much still need a car in this city.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:46 AM   #1471
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3 years for West LRT. 5 years for DT train platforms. I know there's more challenges working DT while keeping everything running, but it was also much smaller project IMO. Anyway, glad it's done.

On to SE LRT and NC LRT! I figure the lines can be adjusted to NW-SE and NC-S once those legs are done, with NE-W remaining intact. Which line will be the green line?
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:17 PM   #1472
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On to SE LRT and NC LRT! I figure the lines can be adjusted to NW-SE and NC-S once those legs are done, with NE-W remaining intact. Which line will be the green line?
How do you figure that? NW and SE will not be connected. SE will have its own subway downtown and use different vehicle technology.

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Old 12-09-2012, 12:21 PM   #1473
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I think that's true wether you live in Kincora or the Beltline. This city has put a major focus on getting you to and from your job (which makes sense of course), but it would be nice to see a bit of a shift towards public transportation that helps you get around the city for "non work" trips. Because for that, you pretty much still need a car in this city.
True qualitatively I suppose, but not in scale. It's a pain the Beltline, but in Kincora it's only nominally in the realm of possibility.
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:51 PM   #1474
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How do you figure that? NW and SE will not be connected. SE will have its own subway downtown and use different vehicle technology.
I didn't know any of that. My idea just seemed plausible/intuitive from a high level.

One of the existing lines (NW or W) would share that subway though, right? Or would it be simply DT-SE with existing lines feeding into DT?
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^This isn't a settled matter really (although the Route Ahead plan serves as further confirmation), but it would be the NW and S lines in the 8th Avenue Subway, the NE and W lines along the existing 7th Avenue, and the NC and SE lines sharing the 2nd Street/10th Avenue SW subway.
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:27 PM   #1476
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Wow, that would be like people on CP giving up hockey for a week. Oh wait.

He drives this amazing machine:



So it'd be more like giving up hockey if we were fans of the Kings.
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^This isn't a settled matter really (although the Route Ahead plan serves as further confirmation), but it would be the NW and S lines in the 8th Avenue Subway, the NE and W lines along the existing 7th Avenue, and the NC and SE lines sharing the 2nd Street/10th Avenue SW subway.
Two subways? I've obviously missed that discussion, I had only heard of the 8 Avenue one.
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How do you figure that? NW and SE will not be connected. SE will have its own subway downtown and might use different vehicle technology.
Fixed your post.

I think it would be foolhardy at this stage to decide that the N-SE line will or should have a completely different style of train.
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They should use at grade trains.

I don't think that statement is foolhardy at all.
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The Route Ahead draft came out a few days ago. Downtown subway is still massively under-prioritized.
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