11-26-2012, 10:17 PM
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#761
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
I blame the NDP more than anything. Meade stood absolutely no chance of winning this, so his supporters should have rallied behind either the front-running progressive candidate (Locke) or the one with an outside chance of victory (Turner). Anyone who voted orange threw their vote away.
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Anyone who voted Green Party threw their vote away. They have about 25% of the vote.
The NDP only have about 5% of the vote. Too small of percentage to share those votes with other candidates. Firstly, you'll have supporters of any party that will vote for their party no matter what. Secondly, if they chose another party you'd have a split between the Liberals and Green Party.
The Conservatives (36%) and Liberals (33%) were the only threats at winning the election. A protest vote should have gone to the Liberals, the other parties was a wasted vote.
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11-26-2012, 10:17 PM
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#762
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Over the hill
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I know it's a by-election, but it's worth taking a second to be happy that in Canada we can count our votes within a few hours. There are still literally millions of ballots that have yet to be counted in the U.S. presidential election that happened almost three weeks ago now.
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11-26-2012, 10:17 PM
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#763
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Originally Posted by evman150
Albertans continue to shock me at how they justify voting for an absolute idiot of a candidate.
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Didn't BC (and your city) recently vote in Elizabeth May?
Not sure you should be criticizing other provinces in regards to their idiot candidates.
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11-26-2012, 10:17 PM
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#764
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1 vote difference in Vic again, this is crazy.
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11-26-2012, 10:18 PM
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#765
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Lead really widened at the end. Turned out to be not that much more than the coronation that everyone expected.
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11-26-2012, 10:21 PM
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#766
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Originally Posted by MelBridgeman
oh yes life is hard here in calgary Centre.
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It is for some people. Joan Crockett didn't really ever talk about them though. She mostly talked about Stephen Harper.
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11-26-2012, 10:22 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Richmond, BC
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Originally Posted by moon
Didn't BC (and your city) recently vote in Elizabeth May?
Not sure you should be criticizing other provinces in regards to their idiot candidates.
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As much as you may dislike May (she's not my favourite either), she was just voted parliamentarian of the year. Not a good example at all.
For what it's worth, I'm not in May's riding. I'm in the riding that voted today. But guess who I voted for...!
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11-26-2012, 10:23 PM
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#768
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Over the hill
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Originally Posted by evman150
As much as you may dislike May (she's not my favourite either), she was just voted parliamentarian of the year. Not a good example at all.
For what it's worth, I'm not in May's riding. I'm in the riding that voted today. But guess who I voted for...!
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Were you the one vote that Galloway currently leads by?
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11-26-2012, 10:23 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Calgary in Heart, Ottawa in Body
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Interesting, now the Green is up by 90.
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11-26-2012, 10:23 PM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
I blame the NDP more than anything. Meade stood absolutely no chance of winning this, so his supporters should have rallied behind either the front-running progressive candidate (Locke) or the one with an outside chance of victory (Turner). Anyone who voted orange threw their vote away.
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Huh, that was never going to happen, the NDP hate the Liberal's and view them as just as evil and misguided as the Conservatives.
Plus they are planning on fighting for the big chair in the next election, surrendering a seat in any region would be bush league.
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11-26-2012, 10:24 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by pepper24
Looks like the Liberals and Green Party did a big favor for the Conservatives by splitting up the protest vote. Without the Green Party it's a Liberal victory.
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If Calgary Centre voters wanted to do a protest vote they should have backed Turner and not a party with a deep rooted hatred and jealously of Alberta.
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11-26-2012, 10:25 PM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by c.t.ner
Interesting, now the Green is up by 90.
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where are you seeing that, I was looking at the 10:15 update and the conservative was up 1300 over the Liberal and the Green was in third place trailing by over 3000
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11-26-2012, 10:26 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
where are you seeing that, I was looking at the 10:15 update and the conservative was up 1300 over the Liberal and the Green was in third place trailing by over 3000
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He's talking about Victoria.
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11-26-2012, 10:26 PM
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#774
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Geez, can't believe how close Victoria is! I thought this was to be a cakewalk for the NDP. They were up by quite a margin in the polls.
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11-26-2012, 10:26 PM
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#775
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
where are you seeing that, I was looking at the 10:15 update and the conservative was up 1300 over the Liberal and the Green was in third place trailing by over 3000
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He's looking at the Victoria byelection.
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11-26-2012, 10:26 PM
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#776
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One of the big stories should be how pathetically low the turnout was. Especially considering how close these races were.
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11-26-2012, 10:27 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Calgary in Heart, Ottawa in Body
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
where are you seeing that, I was looking at the 10:15 update and the conservative was up 1300 over the Liberal and the Green was in third place trailing by over 3000
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Yeah, sorry. I should have prefaced that with Victoria.
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11-26-2012, 10:27 PM
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#778
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by evman150
As much as you may dislike May (she's not my favourite either), she was just voted parliamentarian of the year. Not a good example at all.
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Garbage award for a garbage candidate, MP and person.
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11-26-2012, 10:28 PM
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#779
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Join Date: May 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pepper24
Anyone who voted Green Party threw their vote away. They have about 25% of the vote.
The NDP only have about 5% of the vote. Too small of percentage to share those votes with other candidates. Firstly, you'll have supporters of any party that will vote for their party no matter what. Secondly, if they chose another party you'd have a split between the Liberals and Green Party.
The Conservatives (36%) and Liberals (33%) were the only threats at winning the election. A protest vote should have gone to the Liberals, the other parties was a wasted vote.
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In hindsight you can say that, but there was an outside chance that Turner could sneak up the middle, so I don't consider a vote for him to have been "wasted". On the other hand, no reasonable person would have thought Meade stood a snowball's chance of winning.
Of course, it appears the margin of victory is greater than the number of votes for Meade anyway, so the point is moot, but at the time I wrote that last post, if you had added Meade's total to Locke, he would have been several hundred votes ahead.
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11-26-2012, 10:31 PM
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#780
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Moon suffering through the lockout like the rest of us.
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