11-26-2012, 03:37 PM
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evil of fart
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Originally Posted by fotze
My 3 year old calls it Chrimas like grimace. Cool story bro.
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My kids call it Chrimsas. It's the cutest darned thing you ever did hear.
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11-26-2012, 03:40 PM
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evil of fart
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Originally Posted by Red-Mile-DJ
Dislikes:
- People that are not religious in ANY way that "celebrate" the holiday. Ie: used to know a girl who's family was atheist and they celebrated Christmas...what? 
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Are you joking around? Christmas is a cultural holiday in our society - the religious aspect is completely optional.
My family is areligious/atheist. We have a tree, turkey, presents, my kids believe in Santa, etc. I assure you, a baby god born from a virgin in a farmhouse doesn't enter into it for us.
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11-26-2012, 03:41 PM
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In Your MCP
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Well this year I have no girlfriend, no commitments, and nothing to do, so I'm going to get off my face wasted at some poor friends house, annoy his wife, poison his kids with conspiracy theories, and hopefully vomit off his patio. Cigars will be lit, lies will be told, and I will stumble home with a new-found sense of dignity for a job well done.
So yeah, I won't be surprised if no one takes my calls this year. You know who you are.
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11-26-2012, 03:56 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sliver
Are you joking around? Christmas is a cultural holiday in our society - the religious aspect is completely optional.
My family is areligious/atheist. We have a tree, turkey, presents, my kids believe in Santa, etc. I assure you, a baby god born from a virgin in a farmhouse doesn't enter into it for us.
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If this is the case then why do we always here stories about parents not wanting carols sung in schools? That workers at The Gap have to say "happy holidays"?
The religious aspect is WHY we have CHRISTmas. Without Christmas there wouldn't be any "cultural" holiday. The main theme around this year is celebrating the birth of Christ. Everyone knows this. But we have to careful to not shove it down everyone's throats, and celebrate everyone's beliefs, even though it all started with Christians and CHRISTmas.
...I see the thread title has been changed. Nice one.
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11-26-2012, 03:57 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Edmonton
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There is a lot of bitterness here, but I love Christmas. For most of December there are snacks in the coffee room, parties and long lunches become more common and most people are cheery. I have a good excuse to come to Calgary for a few days to take a client or two for lunch/afternoon beers.
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11-26-2012, 03:59 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red-Mile-DJ
If this is the case then why do we always here stories about parents not wanting carols sung in schools? That workers at The Gap have to say "happy holidays"?
The religious aspect is WHY we have CHRISTmas. Without Christmas there wouldn't be any "cultural" holiday. The main theme around this year is celebrating the birth of Christ. Everyone knows this. But we have to careful to not shove it down everyone's throats, and celebrate everyone's beliefs, even though it all started with Christians and CHRISTmas.
...I see the thread title has been changed. Nice one.
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I just did it to be screw with you. I have no issues with it being referred to as Christmas.
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11-26-2012, 04:01 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
I just did it to be screw with you. I have no issues with it being referred to as Christmas.
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I love you man. I figured you were messing with me. 
Merry Christmas!
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11-26-2012, 04:03 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Edmonton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red-Mile-DJ
The religious aspect is WHY we have CHRISTmas. Without Christmas there wouldn't be any "cultural" holiday. The main theme around this year is celebrating the birth of Christ. Everyone knows this. But we have to careful to not shove it down everyone's throats, and celebrate everyone's beliefs, even though it all started with Christians and CHRISTmas.
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I could be wrong but didn't the Christians co-opt Christmas from the Pagans?
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11-26-2012, 04:05 PM
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evil of fart
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Originally Posted by Red-Mile-DJ
If this is the case then why do we always here stories about parents not wanting carols sung in schools? That workers at The Gap have to say "happy holidays"?
The religious aspect is WHY we have CHRISTmas. Without Christmas there wouldn't be any "cultural" holiday. The main theme around this year is celebrating the birth of Christ. Everyone knows this. But we have to careful to not shove it down everyone's throats, and celebrate everyone's beliefs, even though it all started with Christians and CHRISTmas.
...I see the thread title has been changed. Nice one.
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It's your mistake to think people are offended when you say Merry Christmas. That's offensive to nobody. It's more inclusive to say Happy Holidays, however, which is why people are moving towards that. It's just considerate as there are millions of people in our country that don't identify as Christian.
I think the carols that bother people are the Christian ones. Jingle Bells and Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer are fine. Christian songs don't really belong in a public school, in my opinion. I wouldn't raise a flap about them being sung by my kids, but I can see why a Jewish parent wouldn't want their kids singing about Jesus.
And it didn't start with Christmas, anyway. This has been a holiday time long before sweet baby Jesus was born.
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11-26-2012, 04:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red-Mile-DJ
If this is the case then why do we always here stories about parents not wanting carols sung in schools? That workers at The Gap have to say "happy holidays"?
The religious aspect is WHY we have CHRISTmas. Without Christmas there wouldn't be any "cultural" holiday. The main theme around this year is celebrating the birth of Christ. Everyone knows this. But we have to careful to not shove it down everyone's throats, and celebrate everyone's beliefs, even though it all started with Christians and CHRISTmas.
...I see the thread title has been changed. Nice one.
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Originally Posted by Sliver
It's your mistake to think people are offended when you say Merry Christmas. That's offensive to nobody. It's more inclusive to say Happy Holidays, however, which is why people are moving towards that. It's just considerate as there are millions of people in our country that don't identify as Christian.
I think the carols that bother people are the Christian ones. Jingle Bells and Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer are fine. Christian songs don't really belong in a public school, in my opinion. I wouldn't raise a flap about them being sung by my kids, but I can see why a Jewish parent wouldn't want their kids singing about Jesus.
And it didn't start with Christmas, anyway. This has been a holiday time long before sweet baby Jesus was born.
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Easy boys.
Can we keep the main point of this thread, my dislike of Christmas.
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11-26-2012, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Red-Mile-DJ
- People that spell CHRISTmas with an X (Xmas). <---that REALLY GMG!
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Per the Oxford English dictionary, the practise of using an X dates back as far as 1845. Even older substitutions such as XP and Xt (riffing on the labarum symbol and the first two letters in Greek for the word Christ) can be traced as far back as the year 1021.
So probably you can safely let go of this GMG'er.
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11-26-2012, 04:15 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2011
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Christmas for starters is not X-mas.
Christmas should not be suppressed by any other self agenda seeking religious beliefs in Canada in their goal to eliminate the public display of Christmas.
If someone doesn't follow or believe in Christmas its meaning or even just the simple spirit of Christmas then so be it that's fine but don't seek to change the opportunity such is in schools and public places in hopes to hinder the celebration for those that do.
It doesn't matter how marketed and commercial Christmas has become for adults, especially for children its the spirit of the holiday season.
If somebody just has a genuine dislike for Christmas well so be it that's their right to feel that way.
For my family we enjoy everything about Christmas, the lights, the decorating, the giving and receiving of presents, the holiday TV specials, the movies, the festive cheesy music, getting together with family and friends, forgetting work for a week, giving to charity, and the Christian celebration of Christmas.
" The little lights... they aren't twinkling. I know, Art. Thanks for noticing".
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11-26-2012, 04:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red-Mile-DJ
The religious aspect is WHY we have CHRISTmas. Without Christmas there wouldn't be any "cultural" holiday. The main theme around this year is celebrating the birth of Christ. Everyone knows this. But we have to careful to not shove it down everyone's throats, and celebrate everyone's beliefs, even though it all started with Christians and CHRISTmas.
...I see the thread title has been changed. Nice one.
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You are misinformed and wrong.
Most of the themes commonly associated with the Christmas tradition (burning yule logs, singing carols, exchanging gifts, decorating evergeeen trees, putting up wreaths/holly/mistletoe, etc.) come from non-Christian holidays. These traditions were later incorporated by Christians into their Christmas celebration.
Moreover, the birth of Jesus is believed by Biblical scholars to not have occurred on December 25. The reason that date was chosen for Christmas is so that it could replace the popular Saturnalia festival when the Roman Empire converted to Christianity under Emperor Constantine. Later, other new converts to Christianity from elsewhere in Europe replaced their pagan Winter Solstice festivals with Christmas celebrations.
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11-26-2012, 04:23 PM
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Often Thinks About Pickles
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Christmas is my favorite day of the year. Its special.... particularly when you get to celebrate it with family.
Hell... I've even been known to actually go to church on that day.
Last edited by Rerun; 11-26-2012 at 04:25 PM.
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11-26-2012, 04:23 PM
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Self-Retirement
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
You are misinformed and wrong.
Most of the themes commonly associated with the Christmas tradition (burning yule logs, singing carols, exchanging gifts, decorating evergeeen trees, putting up wreaths/holly/mistletoe, etc.) come from non-Christian holidays. These traditions were later incorporated by Christians into their Christmas celebration.
Moreover, the birth of Jesus is believed by Biblical scholars to not have occurred on December 25. The reason that date was chosen for Christmas is so that it could replace the popular Saturnalia festival when the Roman Empire converted to Christianity under Emperor Constantine. Later, other new converts to Christianity from elsewhere in Europe replaced their pagan Winter Solstice festivals with Christmas celebrations.
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+1. Basically Christmas is sun worship and celebrating the new birth of the sun. It was even outlawed in the dark ages.
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11-26-2012, 04:25 PM
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The best part about Christmas for me is going to my folks to be with the family, and appreciating all the family they didn't invite.
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11-26-2012, 04:38 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Red-Mile-DJ
Dislikes:
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Between us heathens taking Christmas and the gays taking marriage away from you guys, it's like a double whammy to you religious folks huh?
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11-26-2012, 04:38 PM
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Voted for Kodos
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No Christian should have a problem with calling Christmas "X-mas." After all we started it. As has been mentioned, the letter "X" is a symbol of Christ. Replacing the "Christ" in "christmas" with the letter X isn't "removing Christ from Christmas" at all.
The materialism of Christmas sucks. The family time and holidays are great. I love having Christmas lights up, they help make dark winter evenings bearable.
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
You are misinformed and wrong.
Most of the themes commonly associated with the Christmas tradition (burning yule logs, singing carols, exchanging gifts, decorating evergeeen trees, putting up wreaths/holly/mistletoe, etc.) come from non-Christian holidays. These traditions were later incorporated by Christians into their Christmas celebration.
Moreover, the birth of Jesus is believed by Biblical scholars to not have occurred on December 25. The reason that date was chosen for Christmas is so that it could replace the popular Saturnalia festival when the Roman Empire converted to Christianity under Emperor Constantine. Later, other new converts to Christianity from elsewhere in Europe replaced their pagan Winter Solstice festivals with Christmas celebrations.
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I always say the St Patrick's Day is the most "Christian" holiday that there is.
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11-26-2012, 04:39 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Last two years have involved (due to various things) my wife going away to visit family while I stay in town, so I now associate Christmas with playing video games until I pass out.
I love Christmas.
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11-26-2012, 04:54 PM
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Self-Retirement
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Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed
No Christian should have a problem with calling Christmas "X-mas." After all we started it.
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But it was just stated that Christians did not start Christmas. Sure the sun worship was renamed, but it didn't start with Christians.
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