Khari Jones traded to Calgary

[zarrell]

Word from CJOB in Winnipeg has K. Jones being traded to the Stampeders for Flemming, Lysak and a draft pick. More details to come I'm sure.

[Flickered Flame]

I hope Lysak isn't part of the trade. I don't mind him at all...I was hoping Crandell would be headed the other way.

[calf]

Really? I guess the injury to Crandell put a cog in the plans, so they had to put someone else in there. Lysack was solid, and will be missed.

[zarrell]

Just heard that part of the trade also involves Regimbald going to Winnipeg and Randy Bowles is coming to Calgary.

[calf]

Originally posted by zarrell@Sep 26 2004, 12:07 AM
Just heard that part of the trade also involves Regimbald going to Winnipeg and Randy Bowles is coming to Calgary.

and a draft pick to Winnepeg too. (read on 13thman.com).

Thinking about it for a bit, it's brutal.

Stamps have 5 qb's on their roster (although Crandell's prob gone w/ injury, that 4th string guy (name escapes me)), T-Jones, Souza, and now Khari. Someone's gonna go, prob Crandell and 4th string buddy.

Regimbald never was a huge part of the offence, but is a horse and a competitor (when he gets the ball).

Fleming - the heart and soul of the defence, but likely wouldn't be back next season (who could blame him)

And for them, we get another washed up, overpaid QB. And Bowles. I have nothing against him!

[zarrell]

Originally posted by calf@Sep 26 2004, 12:11 AM

and a draft pick to Winnepeg too. (read on 13thman.com).

Which is where I got my info too. I'm the guy by the same name

Which is where I got my info too. I'm the guy by the same name

[CaramonLS]

Uggg don't know if I like this trade... Has Khari really done anything good this year?

Its Scary that Crandall has more passing yrds than Jones.

[calf]

Originally posted by zarrell+Sep 26 2004, 12:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (zarrell @ Sep 26 2004, 12:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-calf@Sep 26 2004, 12:11 AM

and a draft pick to Winnepeg too. (read on 13thman.com).

Which is where I got my info too. I'm the guy by the same name

Which is where I got my info too. I'm the guy by the same name [/b][/quote]
I figured as much!

I lurk there...and post a lot on gostampsgo.com (it's smallish, but good)

I'm thinking that Dunigan, if the trade is true (gonna wait for the official press release), got s-c-r-e-w-e-d

[calf]

Originally posted by CaramonLS@Sep 26 2004, 12:21 AM
Uggg don't know if I like this trade... Has Khari really done anything good this year?

Its Scary that Crandall has more passing yrds than Jones.

Khari's been injured for the most part (shoulder...which according to Matt Dunigan, is due to a fundamental (but correctable) flaw in his throwing motion.

So, how does Calgary manage to pick up an injured QB, and Winnipeg doesnt?

[CaramonLS]

Hopefully thats not the only thing he corrects... did anyone else see that Micheal Petry article on Dunigan from a few days ago? Joe Sports went off for a good hour about no huddle/goal line offense.

[Pagal4321]

:huhsign:
What kinda trade is this?! lysak is sollllid back there. I like dunnigan, really I do, but he realllllllllllllly needs to drop that GM position and concentrate on the coaching.
I think this of the trade

[Super-Rye]

Originally posted by Pagal4321@Sep 26 2004, 01:47 AM
:huhsign:
What kinda trade is this?! lysak is sollllid back there. I like dunnigan, really I do, but he realllllllllllllly needs to drop that GM position and concentrate on the coaching.
I think this of the trade

Well Pagal, this trades not even official, for all we know it isn't true, and if it is, who says all the peices have been said in this thread? If that's all Calgary gets, I'd be rather disappointed that we lost Lysack in the trade. If it was Fleming, Regimbald and a pick for Jones and Bowles, I'd be all over it, but Lysack? However, if there's more/less to this deal, it could work out either way, I'll wait and see before passing judgement.

[calf]

Confirmed now

Link

[snappyk]

Flemming, Regimbald and Lysak for a hurt QB, wait to go Matt.

[octothorp]

Freaking hell. Absolutely hate this one. I understand the need to trade Flemming. Gotta give up something to get something. Throwing in one of the best young Canadian linebackers in the league, however, looks like a huge overpayment. And as for the Regimbald/Bowles trade, that's a huge downgrade at the fullback position. Regimbald was one of the best blocking fullbacks in the game, and was very reliable at catching the football, too. That's it, I'm done being a Stampeders fan at least for the season, possibly longer.

[JayP]

Originally posted by snappyk@Sep 26 2004, 03:52 PM
Flemming, Regimbald and Lysak for a hurt QB, wait to go Matt.

Yeah because the fact that Jones is hurt really means a lot to us right now...

You guys complain about Crandell all year and Dunnigan gets you an ex-MVP quarterback...yet you still complain.

Regimbald for Bowles is a wash.

Fleming has about 0 trade value. A free agent to be who is widely known to be on the trading block and has a major problem with his coach.

The loss of Lysack will hurt, but you have to deal from your strengths for your weaknesses. We now have a bonifide starting QB and our defense is still very, very good. Lysack was a solid Canadian, but he is still on the bottom half of importance of our starters on defense (with guys like Boese, Grace, White, Maxie, Evans, Coe, and Clark ahead of him).

[AvengeR]

I have to agree with JayP. If they had gotten Dickenson, people would complain that they got an old, injury proned QB who is making half a million dollars per season. If they got McManus, they would bitch that he is old and has a season or 2 left. Who do people expect, Casey Printers, that's not gonna happen. Jones is the best of the veteren QB's that were available.

And as Jim Barker and others have said, Jones for Flemming was not a fair trade for the Bombers cause the QB has more of an impact in a game than a DLineman. Regimbald wasn't even used much anyways. I think they will give the load to Reynolds and Jenkins for the rest of the season.

Funny thing is, from the initial coments from Bomber fans , they are not pleased with the trade either. It they can't get Flemming to sign an extension, they cold loose him at the end of the season. Why would Flemming resign with them now when he can wait til Feb15 and get more money.

[I_H8_Crawford]

I'm with JayP on this one.

I'd like to see any other GM in the league have a much-publicised malcontent on the team in his final year of his contract turn around a trade for another legit player without giving up anything else...

Win is taking a big risk as well; it seems that Fleming is just a rent-a-player for them; if anything, I'd bet that Joe signs with Wally for next season, if anywhere.

Even with a bad shoulder right now, I'd be willing to be that Jones is 10x (or more) the QB that Crandell could ever be - that's a huge upgrade IMO at the most important position on O.

Regimbald for Bowles? How often did the Stamps utilise a 2 back system so far this year? How much was a FB really needed with us? We downgraded (only a little IMO) at a position we don't use to upgrade at a very important position.

Finally Lysak for a 4th rounder - this is where Winnipeg wins in the trade; but let's face it, they needed SOMETHING in the trade (not just a player for the remainder of their season), and at least Dunigan got a pick out of it, instead of the 3 players + pick for Jones rumour going around last night.

Time will tell on this trade - if Khari performs better than Crandell, and gives Souza and Jones the time they need to learn and develop, I doubt many people will complain about Lysak going.

[JiriHrdina]

Not sure why people hate this trade so much. Here's my breakdown:

Fullbacks cancel each other out.

So we then have Joe Fleming, a pending free agent + Wes Lysack (a great young player) for a #1 QB.

Seems even to me. Winnipeg wasn't going to just take Fleming and then lose him at season's end so obviously needed something for the future (Lysack).

Calgary addresses their #1 need for the short and long term. That's why we've been all asking for this whole season - a real QB. And you have to give up something to get something.

[I_H8_Crawford]

Here;s something someone posted at another forum, which I feel puts everything in perspective:

If Fleming doesn't sign with Win, the trade would be this:

Khari Jones, Randy Bowles and a 4th RD draft pick (2006....Bombers must have run out of 2005 picks..icon_wink.gif)

for

Wes Lysack and Scott Regimbald

Who's going to bitch about that trade now?? :unsure: