11-08-2012, 11:34 PM
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#181
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by pylon
Moon, it is not up for debate what league has better athletes, or is a better league... period. You can divvy up the population, the fans per city per capita, etc... at the end of the day, the NFL will win by a million miles. Cowboys stadium alone, is worth the entire value of the CFL X 20. You could get a CFL franchise, for less than the annual salary of a mid level NFL QB.
Virtually every single CFL player aspires to make it to the NFL. And virtually every single player that tries, is cut. Even the best of our best are usually bench warmers, or practice roster players. I prefer to watch the best athletes in the world play, it is simple as that.
I actually would love to see NFL calibre athletes play under Canadian rules as an experiment. I actually like the Canadian rules better. But it simply isn't a comparison that can be made. Tiger Woods is still one of the best golfers on the planet regardless of the scoring format. If the CFL was that good, the NFL would be flooded with our players every year.
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Virtually every player in the NCAA aspires to make the NFL. And by and large, they too are cut. There's
The best of our best who've gone to the NFL recently include Brandon Browner, Cornerback, Seattle Seahawks. Pro Bowler. Cameron Wake, OLB, Miami Dolphins. Pro Bowler, just signed a 4-year $49 million extension in May, a year after being named the 61st best player in the NFL according to an NFL network poll of all active NFL players.
There are ~1700 jobs available in the NFL. There are 250 NCAA schools. Guys gotta play somewhere, and right now the arena league and the CFL are the only places they've got. Oddly enough, both leagues are different enough from the NFL that people actually have a reason to watch them or go see them live. NFL Europe doesn't exist anymore for a reason.
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11-08-2012, 11:34 PM
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#182
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Don Cherry
Can we all just agree that we want the Stampeders to beat the Riders?
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I'm down with that.
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11-08-2012, 11:35 PM
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#183
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Don Cherry
Can we all just agree that we want the Stampeders to beat the Riders?
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The FAN doesn't. Would drop their ratings.
Maybe this is what the suspension is all about. Isn't Kelly Kirch from Saskatchewan anyway?
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11-08-2012, 11:36 PM
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#184
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Originally Posted by Red John
The FAN doesn't. Would drop their ratings.
Maybe this is what the suspension is all about. Isn't Kelly Kirch from Saskatchewan anyway?
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Annnnnnnnnd with that we're back on topic. Dammit Kirch, you hack. You don't deserve your job. You owe everything to Darryl Sutter, Rob Kerr and Joe Sports. RUN AWAY. RUN AWAY FROM THE TRUTH!!!!
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11-08-2012, 11:37 PM
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#185
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Don Cherry
Can we all just agree that we want the Stampeders to beat the Riders?
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Drew Tate is going to lead an absolute curb stomping.
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11-08-2012, 11:38 PM
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#186
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary
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Why do we care what rider fans think? These are the same drunken ass clown's that I have personally seen punch cops, sucker punch a Stampeder fan who told them to quit swearing (knocked the guy out cold and left him bleeding on the ground as they ran away into the crowd), throw full cans of beers into "red" areas of the crowd. They are A-holes and wear that moniker like some badge of honor and call it "Rider Pride". Those fans and the Stampeders lack of ability or will to do anything about it are the sole reason I gave up my season tix a few years ago. They suck the fun out of going to a game.
A comment about their plane going down made in jest... that's nothing at all compared to the behavior these clowns bring to the game every time their team is in town. Screw Regina and its fans. They can all crash in planes and it will just make the CFL a nicer place.
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11-08-2012, 11:42 PM
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#187
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pylon
Moon, it is not up for debate what league has better athletes, or is a better league... period. You can divvy up the population, the fans per city per capita, etc... at the end of the day, the NFL will win by a million miles. Cowboys stadium alone, is worth the entire value of the CFL X 20. You could get a CFL franchise, for less than the annual salary of a mid level NFL QB.
Virtually every single CFL player aspires to make it to the NFL. And virtually every single player that tries, is cut. Even the best of our best are usually bench warmers, or practice roster players. I prefer to watch the best athletes in the world play, it is simple as that.
I actually would love to see NFL calibre athletes play under Canadian rules as an experiment. I actually like the Canadian rules better. But it simply isn't a comparison that can be made. Tiger Woods is still one of the best golfers on the planet regardless of the scoring format. If the CFL was that good, the NFL would be flooded with our players every year.
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Is anyone arguing any of that though?
I have no issue with people saying the NFL has better players, I agree with it. I also agree it is a bigger, more profitable, more popular league. But that doesn't mean I can't also enjoy the CFL.
In reality the NFL has nothing to do with whether people can and should like the CFL. It may be a factor for you but it doesn't mean that is the case for everyone else.
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11-08-2012, 11:51 PM
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#188
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Originally Posted by Red John
Anyways, back on topic. The Boomer suspension. Over-reaction by the Fan? Or justly deserved?
Wonder if perhaps the fact that Boomer is a repeat offender played into it.
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It was an overreaction but not overly surprising coming from a big corporation like Rogers.
The outcry over a guy getting suspended for two weeks will be much smaller than the whining and moaning from the over reactors and it is much easier to placate the media around the country to just say they suspended him and basically end the story.
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11-08-2012, 11:53 PM
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#189
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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I emailed Kelly Kirch - Program Director
kelly.kirch@rci.rogers.com
regarding the subject of Boomer's comments not because of Boomer at all but I voiced my displeasure as a 960 fan with Kirch himself and this irrational decision he has publicly and professionally humiliated Dean Moberg with.
Kelly Kirch is nothing but a hypocrite especially when he goes overboard, way overboard about his Riders and enjoys shoving that creep, the voice of the Riders Pederson in Calgary's fans ears.
Was Moberg's comment the wisest thing to say No. But Kelly Kirch's publicly embarrassing Moberg with that letter is a simple example of what kind of low class cut throat person he is. I would never want to work for a jerk like that JMO.
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11-09-2012, 12:12 AM
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#191
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by moon
I always find it funny how offended the anti-CFLer morons get and try to make it into a comparison to the NFL as if that matters at all.
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Where did I get offended? You might want to re-read through this thread, to figure out who got offended. People got so offended by me stating I don't like the CFL they resorted to name calling and personal insults. I didn't call down one poster in this thread. Nor did I call down one person for liking the CFL. I stated my opinion on it, period.
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Originally Posted by moon
The moron comment has nothing to do with people not liking the CFL that is fine, it has to do with the insulting of people that do like the CFL and it wasn't meant just for you specifically but for the many people that do it as well.
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Again, you chose to call me a moron, please direct me to the part of the thread where I did the same to you or anyone else. I am having a very difficult time locating the post where I did.
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11-09-2012, 12:20 AM
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#192
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Originally Posted by pylon
Where did I get offended? You might want to re-read through this thread, to figure out who got offended. People got so offended by me stating I don't like the CFL they resorted to name calling and personal insults. I didn't call down one poster in this thread. Nor did I call down one person for liking the CFL. I stated my opinion on it, period.
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You left out the part of my post where I said that wasn't directed at you in specific.
As I stated above stating that the CFL is popular only because of TSN and Rider fans as well as that if people go to NFL they will see that the CFL is an inferior league belittles the league and the fans of it.
If you stated that when you went to a game that is how you felt and that you feel that TSN and the Riders artificially hype the game then that is fine but the definitive way you presented those things makes it seem that nobody can like the game because they enjoy it.
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Again, you chose to call me a moron, please direct me to the part of the thread where I did the same to you or anyone else. I am having a very difficult time locating the post where I did.
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Once again I didn't say Pylon I said anti-CFLers which is a group that includes many people both on this site and off of it.
By saying that the things mentioned above you are insulting the people that like the CFL by saying there is no reason for them to like it because NFL is better and TSN/Rider hype it up.
If you are not Anti-CFL and just don't personally like it then you are not included in the group I referred to as morons so you have no need to be offended.
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11-09-2012, 12:40 AM
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#193
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by pylon
Moon, it is not up for debate what league has better athletes, or is a better league... period. You can divvy up the population, the fans per city per capita, etc... at the end of the day, the NFL will win by a million miles. Cowboys stadium alone, is worth the entire value of the CFL X 20. You could get a CFL franchise, for less than the annual salary of a mid level NFL QB.
Virtually every single CFL player aspires to make it to the NFL. And virtually every single player that tries, is cut. Even the best of our best are usually bench warmers, or practice roster players. I prefer to watch the best athletes in the world play, it is simple as that.
I actually would love to see NFL calibre athletes play under Canadian rules as an experiment. I actually like the Canadian rules better. But it simply isn't a comparison that can be made. Tiger Woods is still one of the best golfers on the planet regardless of the scoring format. If the CFL was that good, the NFL would be flooded with our players every year.
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You just don't ####ing get it at all do you?
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11-09-2012, 05:40 AM
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#194
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Uncle Chester
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Kelly Kirsh is a dirty Roughriders fan. He is going the extra mile to punish Molberg because of this fact.
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11-09-2012, 09:18 AM
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#195
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Calgary
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Boomer is a clown when it comes to making death comments about people. It's not the first time, but every time he does it I am aghast that he says something like that...especially on air.
As an example, I think it was about a year and a half or so ago that he said something along the lines of "I am sure his family wishes he were dead". He was talking about Pat Steinberg at the time, Walker took a bit of exception with the comment and he quickly gave the ole "I am kidding" defense.
I find it offensive and insensitive. I could give a rats a$$ about what Riders fans think, but what do the families think.
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11-09-2012, 09:33 AM
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#196
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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What do CFL bashers say about NCAA football? NCAA is not great football. The spectacle is fantastic, but the product is lacking.
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11-09-2012, 09:37 AM
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#197
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CP Pontiff
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: A pasture out by Millarville
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Originally Posted by Radio
Boomer is a clown when it comes to making death comments about people. It's not the first time, but every time he does it I am aghast that he says something like that...especially on air.
As an example, I think it was about a year and a half or so ago that he said something along the lines of "I am sure his family wishes he were dead". He was talking about Pat Steinberg at the time, Walker took a bit of exception with the comment and he quickly gave the ole "I am kidding" defense.
I find it offensive and insensitive. I could give a rats a$$ about what Riders fans think, but what do the families think.
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Well, he won't be doing that again and that's for sure.
Although I think Boomer's apology was genuine and written by himself, the complete package of retraction, suspension and moving away from him by the company has the Roger's PR department written all over it.
It was quick and thorough.
Getting him out of the way for the rest of the CFL season is probably wise not only for the FAN960 but also for Boomer frankly. He should thank them for that. He's probably getting threats and getting out of town for awhile is the smart thing to do.
We'll see if time heals this.
We'll have to see what his strategy is when he returns . . . . . drop it and never mention it again or address it? There is always going to be a fanatical element that won't let it go though. He's going to be hearing about it 20 years from now. It's a very public job and the nutbars always know where you are and how to talk to you. Everytime he takes a call-in, someone could bring it up.
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11-09-2012, 09:39 AM
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#198
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Uncle Chester
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Rod Petersen (voice of the riders) was interviewed on Global Saskatoon today. I'm paraphrasing but he said something to the effect of " I'm going to be on that same plane. Why would he jinx a flight like that? WHY?". He was serious. Rod Petersen is a boob.
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11-09-2012, 09:44 AM
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#199
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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So when the story blew up, Fan960 increased the penalties. Or they did it simply to let the whole thing cool down.
I wasn't listening when the incident occurred, and it was clearly over the line. But as a regular listener, I know Walker and Warrener are big Rider fans and there is often a bunch of kibitzing as they rile each other up. It doesn't excuse what happened but it is easy to see how it happened.
Let Boomer sit until Bryn steps down, then put Boomer in the afternoon with Steinberg.
But they had better keep Boomer - he is one of the few guys who keep things interesting. There are a lot of guys who know their stuff at 960, but many of them (Walker, Steinberg) are pretty dry. The Fan needs Boomer.
Talk radio must be a really tough gig - to be knowledgeable, able to have and defend an opinion, and be interesting/entertaining, and to do that for hours a day, every day; anything live to air is one hell of a skill.
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11-09-2012, 10:04 AM
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#200
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Calgary...Alberta, Canada
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Originally Posted by SportsJunky
Rod Petersen (voice of the riders) was interviewed on Global Saskatoon today. I'm paraphrasing but he said something to the effect of " I'm going to be on that same plane. Why would he jinx a flight like that? WHY?". He was serious. Rod Petersen is a boob.
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They should take a bus, then, if they believe in jinxes.
Man, did this thread get sidetracked.
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