FAN960 general purpose thread

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by pylon

You must be a riot at parties.

Random partier: Knock Knock
Pylon: Will somebody answer the goddamn door????? And #### the CFL!!!

[RogerWilco]

Originally Posted by pylon

Questions to CFL basher, bashers.

Am I less of a Canadian for pointing out the CFL is hot garbage? Just because I live here, doesn't mean I have to blindly support the CFL. You know what, I prefer Starbucks to Tim's, because it is better tasting coffee.

Just because it is Canadian, doesn't mean I have to carve up a watermelon, throw it on my head with a police squad style cop car light, and run around in the stands swinging a cowbell in one hand whilst playing siren noises out of a radioshack megaphone in the other.

Hey, we club seals here too, should I blindly support that?

Curling is popular too, but I'd rather burn my groin with cigars than watch grown men shrieking at a boulder like they have a brain injury of some type. Does that make me less of a Canadian?

You just show that you don't understand football at all. In that case it means you follow american media hype. So yes, you are less Canadian.

[pylon]

So because I have pointed out I do not like the CFL, and believe it is a inferior league, I have been called both a moron, unpatriotic and a dick.

Yet I do not recall name calling any specific person for liking the CFL.

edit...lol, and less of a Canadian. ^^^
edir, edit: Also a party pooper!

Wow!

[moon]

Originally Posted by Red John

Well a vast majority of air time should definitely be spent on the mainstream leagues. That's how you get higher ratings. Everyone likes to rag on Nickelback but they keep selling albums and getting concerts because they are popular. Even if the mainstream music fans are "stupid" for doing so.

I am not a huge fan of a lot of things that they do at the fan but from my days as a Fan Club member and as an assumption of basic business practices my guess is that they do a ton of market research to find out what their listeners want and what will bring listeners to the station.

My guess is that the reason that the CFL is talked about as much as it is is because they have found that people want to listen to it more than other topics.

I think Rome is a horrible show but can recognize that he gets a following and that is why he is on the station.

[RedMileDJ]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

I cannot for the life of me figure out what you wrote here that got blotted out. Nor do I know why you bothered hyphenating 'stereotype'. Finally, I can't remember who's side you're on in this debacle.

I cannot for the life of me figure out what you wrote here that got blotted out.

"Like a summer breeze"

Nor do I know why you bothered hyphenating 'stereotype'.

Yah, I don't know why I did either. I just did. Wasn't picked up by the grammar editor.

Finally, I can't remember who's side you're on in this debacle.

1. I support the CFL because it's Canadian and I like supporting Canadian sports.
2. The NFL is fun to watch.
3. I don't like people, or myself, being referred to as "wana be American" for watching the NFL. We all know being Canadian is awesome.


Does all this help?

[moon]

Originally Posted by pylon

So because I have pointed out I do not like the CFL, and believe it is a inferior league, I have been called both a moron, unpatriotic and a dick.

Yet I do not recall name calling any specific person for liking the CFL.

edit...lol, and less of a Canadian. ^^^

Wow!

Nope if you had pointed out that you do not the league for the reasons you provided then I would have no problem with it but comments such as these:

Originally Posted by pylon

The CFL hype is a product of 2 things:

1) TSN making it seem way bigger than it is through false hype.
2) Riders fans, who's lives are so boring and meaningless out on the plain, they have nothing better to do with their time and cheer for what, in reality, amounts to an amateur football team.

Originally Posted by pylon

You can debate which league has better rules until you are blue in the face. But once you attend an NFL game in person, (and I recommend sitting no more than 10 rows from the sideline to grasp it.) you will grasp how incredibly inferior both the game and athletes are up here.

Originally Posted by pylon

We just have a really bad, really pathetic football league that being compared to the NFL is like comparing a Kia Rio to Bentley Continental.

Are not saying you think that it is a bad product but that everyone should think that.

Throw in a when I went to the NFL game I saw how inferior it was and a I think the CFL is hyped because of TSN and Rider fans and I have no issue with your comments at all.

The way you presented it was that nobody likes the game because they enjoy watching it but instead only because of TSN and them not going to an NFL game which is completely false.

The moron comment has nothing to do with people not liking the CFL that is fine, it has to do with the insulting of people that do like the CFL and it wasn't meant just for you specifically but for the many people that do it as well.

I have no problem if people don't like the CFL but I don't need them telling me why I am wrong for liking it.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

You must be a riot at parties.

Random partier: Knock Knock
Pylon: Will somebody answer the goddamn door????? And #### the CFL!!!

That is the most non-sequitir statement ever directed at me...lol.

You could have also said:

I can imagine you flying your steam powered wheel-barrow to the forest, and I thrusting your pancreas in the air shouting. "Damn you CFL, damn you to hell!"

I can't make the connection of:

Doesn't like CFL = Bad party host

[Red John]

Originally Posted by moon

My guess is that the reason that the CFL is talked about as much as it is is because they have found that people want to listen to it more than other topics.

Perhaps. That's a reasonable assumption for sure. One just has to wonder if the Fan didn't rush to address the symptom (by suspending Boomer) instead of identifying a possible underlying problem instead.

Rogers media shouldn't be given a complete benefit of the doubt in the quality of their product and how they produce it. TSN has time and again proven to be superior quality on TV and if they launched TSN radio in Calgary would likely destroy the FAN (other than the latters Flames broadcast rights).

But that's another topic of discussion altogether.

[RedMileDJ]

Originally Posted by pylon

That is the most non-sequitir statement ever directed at me...lol.

You could have also said:

I can imagine you flying your steam powered wheel-barrow to the forest, and I thrusting your pancreas in the air shouting. "Damn you CFL, damn you to hell!"

I can't make the connection of:

Doesn't like CFL = Bad party host

The highlighted part just made me burst out laughing. So loud in fact that my son just woke up. I better go check on him.

Can I use that in a signature, Pylon?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Red John

Well a vast majority of air time should definitely be spent on the mainstream leagues. That's how you get higher ratings. Everyone likes to rag on Nickelback but they keep selling albums and getting concerts because they are popular. Even if the mainstream music fans are "stupid" for doing so.

Not sure what sex had to do with anything.

It's fine to touch on it here and there, but if comments like Boomer's are made then you know it's tough to fill airspace with quality discussion about it. /opinion

Exactly. My point wasn't to try and make the CFL into a 30-team league. Point was to recognize it for what it is and always will be (minor pro) and treat it as such in the media.

I thought it was quite humorous. You didn't like the idea? Shame. Thought perhaps 26,000+ might enjoy watching it. Business opportunity!

1. The CFL in Canada is mainstream. It has the numbers in both attendance and television to back it up. The Fan broadcasts Fox sports radio on weekends, and used to broadcast ESPN. I'd love to know how their numbers did vs regular programming. And don't bring up Rome vs the rest of the Fan; Rome is arguably the best sports talk show host in North America, he's in his own class.

2. Comments like Boomer's could have been made about any team we don't like. If he'd said it about the Canucks, would that have made it okay? Or should we stop talking about hockey because it's a distant 4th in America? His comments reflect a genuine dislike in this city for the Saskatchewan Roughriders and their fans. Is it petty or childish? Of course. But no amount of discounting from you or others will change the fact that the relationship between Rider fans and the city of Calgary is part of our cultural lexicon. Denying that is stupid.

3. TSN makes a killing on the CFL. Why exactly would they want to treat it as a minor pro sport? Hell, the only reason any sports league makes money in the first place is because media outlets treat it as something more important than it actually is.

4. Hopefully not all of your jokes are that condescending.

I will agree that the CFL does itself no favors most of the time. Its web experience is HORRIAWFUL. Its mobile app is a disaster. It doesn't do a good job marketing itself outside TSN broadcasts. These "Engraved on a Nation" documentaries are well-intentioned, but I cannot say I've been motivated to watch a single one, and I don't think they draw any new fans.

The league has its issues. But seeing as how the Grey Cup out-rates the Super Bowl in this country with regularity, it needs to figure out a way to be better, not be summarily dismissed because it isn't the best football league in the world.

And with that said, it IS the best football league in the world that operates under these rules. Same goes for the NFL.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Red John

Perhaps. That's a reasonable assumption for sure. One just has to wonder if the Fan didn't rush to address the symptom (by suspending Boomer) instead of identifying a possible underlying problem instead.

Rogers media shouldn't be given a complete benefit of the doubt in the quality of their product and how they produce it. TSN has time and again proven to be superior quality on TV and if they launched TSN radio in Calgary would likely destroy the FAN (other than the latters Flames broadcast rights).

But that's another topic of discussion altogether.

I agree with everything (except not sure I agree with the underlying problem part).

As for the another topic of discussion altogether, that is actually the topic of discussion we should be having in this thread rather than the off topic argument that has developed.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by pylon

So because I have pointed out I do not like the CFL, and believe it is a inferior league, I have been called both a moron, unpatriotic and a dick.

Yet I do not recall name calling any specific person for liking the CFL.

edit...lol, and less of a Canadian. ^^^
edir, edit: Also a party pooper!

Wow!

1. That's three things.

2. You're a party pooper because you didn't appear to get that 'because it's fun' as a reason for clubbing seals is a joke. That's clearly not why we do it. Bullets are expensive and those little #######s blend right into the ice.

[Red John]

Originally Posted by RogerWilco

You just show that you don't understand football at all. In that case it means you follow american media hype. So yes, you are less Canadian.

Off-topic so hidden

Spoiler!

If you have a lawnmower, you therefore have a lawn.
If you have a lawn, you therefore have a house.
If you have a house, you therefore have a family.
If you have a family, you therefore are married heterosexually.
If you are married heterosexually, you therefore are straight.

If you don't have a lawnmower, you therefore are gay.

Deductive reasoning. Poor pylon.


Anyways, back on topic. The Boomer suspension. Over-reaction by the Fan? Or justly deserved?

Wonder if perhaps the fact that Boomer is a repeat offender played into it.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Red John

If you have a lawnmower, you therefore a lawn.
If you have a lawn, you therefore have a house.
If you have a house, you therefore have a family.
If you have a family, you therefore are married heterosexually.
If you are married heterosexually, you therefore are straight.

If you don't have a lawnmower, you therefore are gay.


Deductive reasoning. Poor pylon.

No No no no no. If you don't have a lawnmower, you're bi. If you don't have a LAWN, then you're gay. Rookie mistake.

[Don Cherry]

Nice to see the Red John and Pylon ignore my questions from the last page.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Don Cherry

Nice to see the Red John and Pylon ignore my questions from the last page.

Quiet you, they're dealing with me and Moon.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by moon

Nope if you had pointed out that you do not the league for the reasons you provided then I would have no problem with it but comments such as these:

<snip>.

Moon, it is not up for debate what league has better athletes, or is a better league... period. You can divvy up the population, the fans per city per capita, etc... at the end of the day, the NFL will win by a million miles. Cowboys stadium alone, is worth the entire value of the CFL X 20. You could get a CFL franchise, for less than the annual salary of a mid level NFL QB.

Virtually every single CFL player aspires to make it to the NFL. And virtually every single player that tries, is cut. Even the best of our best are usually bench warmers, or practice roster players. I prefer to watch the best athletes in the world play, it is simple as that.

I actually would love to see NFL calibre athletes play under Canadian rules as an experiment. I actually like the Canadian rules better. But it simply isn't a comparison that can be made. Tiger Woods is still one of the best golfers on the planet regardless of the scoring format. If the CFL was that good, the NFL would be flooded with our players every year.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Red-Mile-DJ

The highlighted part just made me burst out laughing. So loud in fact that my son just woke up. I better go check on him.

Can I use that in a signature, Pylon?

Please do.

[RedMileDJ]

Originally Posted by pylon

Please do.

niiiiiice.

[Don Cherry]

Can we all just agree that we want the Stampeders to beat the Riders?