2012 NFL Season Thread

[Senator Clay Davis]

Eric Berry, Tamba Hali, Justin Houston, Brandon Flowers, Derrick Johnson...those are all very talented guys just on defense. Its pretty inexplicable why they've been so awful, unless its the coaching, which it is. Even at the end of last year the Chiefs were playing absolute lights out defense, it was the offense (and good old Tyler Palko) that couldn't deliver for them. Seems like maybe they've quit on Romeo.

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Eric Berry, Tamba Hali, Justin Houston, Brandon Flowers, Derrick Johnson...those are all very talented guys just on defense. Its pretty inexplicable why they've been so awful, unless its the coaching, which it is. Even at the end of last year the Chiefs were playing absolute lights out defense, it was the offense (and good old Tyler Palko) that couldn't deliver for them. Seems like maybe they've quit on Romeo.

There is definately some talent there I won't disagree with that. This is a team that basically pissed away a victory against the Baltimore Ravens. Turnovers are killing them.

[burn_baby_burn]

Are the Chiefs the worst team of all time? Are they even the worst team in 2012? Find out below.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...t-6-teams-ever

[Sylvanfan]

The thing is though, if you look at the talented guys on the Chiefs...many of them are hold overs from the Carl Peterson days.

Hali, Flowers, Albert, Charles, Johnson, Bowe. These guys were all drafted by Peterson, so was Brandon Carr who was a terrific corner, that for whatever reason Pioli couldn't sign. I'd much prefer him to Stanford Routt.

So really what talent has Pioli drafted that has performed on the field besides Eric Berry? Even Glen Dorsey with healthy which hasn't been this year and is badly miscast in Pioli's 3-4 scheme is as effective as any of the linemen Pioli has drafted.

I look at last night's performance, and I think a bit too much of the Herm Edwards type culture has creeped back into that team. Haley was batshat crazy, but I think he actually got some mental toughness and fight out of the players eventually, even if it was because they hated the coach so much and wanted to prove him wrong. Whereas last night they look like it's okay to blow a coverage, or too bad you fumbled, or didn't block the guy at all. Just no focus or care from too many guys on that team, and it's given up.

Normally I advocate giving people 5 years, but based on where the Chiefs are right now, they have to clean house and start over. There are 1-6 or 2-5 teams where you can say...you know a play here a play there, and this team is 4-3 or 3-4 and at least respectable. You really can't say that with this Chiefs team. At best they're one play away from being 2-5.

Clark needs to grow a set and clean house, and probably look at a structure where the coach has greater input into which players he has. Preferable an offensive mind who has experience developing a QB.

[transplant99]

Interesting....

Within the past year, the multiyear contract extension the Saints announced for Sean Payton in September 2011 was voided by the NFL, making the suspended head coach a free agent after this season and casting questions on how long he will remain in New Orleans, according to league sources.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/85...fl-sources-say

[GirlySports]

Why are the Redskins wearing random Catholic high school uniforms?

[transplant99]

Bears have 38 yards of offense...but have 14 pts. That offense is pathetic, but the defense and special teams are unbelievable.

Now they score on defense again...21 pts on 38 yds of offense. Just amazing.

[Machiavelli]

Just....yikes at the Titans.

[transplant99]

All of a sudden for the Packers, no one other than Cobb is able to catch a football...just horrendous focus from the receivers today.

[Drake]

That Baltimore defense even after the bye is still garbage. I guess it is time to use all of their picks in the April draft on defense.

Cam Cameron is still a ######, nothing new there I guess. The ###### decides to throw the ball twice with nearly 2 minutes left in the half, yet you were chewing up that Cleveland defense against the ground. Once again what a damn ######.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by Drake

That Baltimore defense even after the bye is still garbage. I guess it is time to use all of their picks in the April draft on defense.

Cam Cameron is still a ######, nothing new there I guess. The ###### decides to throw the ball twice with nearly 2 minutes left in the half, yet you were chewing up that Cleveland defense against the ground. Once again what a damn ######.

Thanks, Ann.

[Drake]

Jesus, Baltimore Ravens are becoming the new Oakland Raiders with how very undisciplined they are today. Flag after flag for these clowns.

[Sylvanfan]

Miami and Indy looks to be the game of the day so far with both teams trading punches. Luck and Tannehill both looking like more than rookies.

[transplant99]

All favorites are covering except Miami and Wshington late in the games.

[The Big Chill]

Houston and Chicago are both on the verge of improving to 7-1 ahead of their game next Sunday night. I'm looking forward to that one already.

[Drake]

LOL, Baltimore squeaks out a 25-15 win in Cleveland. IMO they had no business winning that game. If they play like that against San Diego and Pittsburgh who they face in back to back weeks on the road after Oakland next week at home. They will be have their ass kicked something really bad. Just like that Houston game.

[OILFAN #81]

Wow, Colts are 5-3 now! Luck with 433 yards passing which is the record for a rookie QB. Game @ Jacksonville next week. Need to win that game. Loving Luck!

[Flickered Flame]

Today proved why Sean Smith is not a #1 CB in the NFL. No effort, no game today. Awful defense by the Fins. Don't want to take anything away from Luck because the kid is a stud but that was one of the worst defensive performances I have seen in along time by Miami.

[trackercowe]

I hope Luck and the Colts end up having to go to Denver and face off against Manning and the Broncos on Wildcard weekend come January. That matchup would make for a very compelling game.

[transplant99]

LOL...Nantz and Simms both ensure the audience that the fumble 6 will be reversed...then announced that the play will stand and they are both speechless for a moment....classic.