10-26-2012, 10:22 PM
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#101
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
having put the cat among the pidgeons so to speak I will add,
I did say 'in general' meaning I am sure there are cops with tats that are fine, it is just my experiance that the cops that tend to identify with the whole bad boy lifestyle, get tats, ride a harley in their off hours etc are terrible cops, trust me there are a few of them in the VPD and as a foster parent and ex prison staff member I have to deal with them all the time, a good cop needs to be low key, patient and supremely self confident in him (or her) self's ability to handle things without laying the boots in, and for whatever reason guys that get tats don't tend to be this, they tend to be somewhat less secure about themselves and more prone to macho bull.
In any other field it doesn't matter, but when I meet a cop or a prison guard who has tats (assuming they are in their 20's and are still into tats etc) I know they will be crap at what they do, I also know they won't even know they are a bit crap at what they do.
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When I meet anyone without tats I just know they are a wuss that will pee themselves at the sight of a needle.
Look at that it is fun to throw out baseless opinions as if they are fact.
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10-26-2012, 10:45 PM
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#102
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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well that is pretty much the whole point of a talk board
Last edited by afc wimbledon; 10-26-2012 at 10:47 PM.
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10-26-2012, 10:49 PM
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#103
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Last edited by afc wimbledon; 10-26-2012 at 10:57 PM.
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10-27-2012, 12:08 AM
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#104
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
well that is pretty much the whole point of a talk board
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lol. Do you happen to be older? It always seems to be older posters who refer to message boards as talk boards, and it cracks me up every time.
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10-27-2012, 12:32 AM
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#105
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I know a girl that calls forum threads, strings.
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10-27-2012, 07:42 AM
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#106
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Ben
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: God's Country (aka Cape Breton Island)
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Originally Posted by AFireInside
Hahaha... What a ridiculous post, don't be so ignorant.
I have close to 100 hours of tattoo time, I just really like art etc.. Thats it..
Guess what I have 2 University degrees, an additional diploma from another University, I ride a motorcycle and not one of the assumptions you make about people with tattoos applies to me. Maybe you need to change your way of thinking.
What about my gf, deans list, masters degree, and likely a med student in the next year. She has sleeves and has been riding a motorcycle for over a decade.. Tattoos and ability aren't related.
There is likely an equal or greater number of those without tats who fit into your stereotype of tattooed people. You are just picking up on the tattoos
I'm sure you could find similar results among people who drive lifted trucks or another variable of your choosing.
That said, they aren't for everyone and I expect and am prepared for a less than favourable reaction.
I wear a shirt and tie to work and for years kept them completely covered and no one had any idea. These days I don't really care.
Get out of the 1950's.
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Why did you keep your tattoos completely covered?
This thread seems to have shifted to whether getting a tattoo is a good idea, and would people you judge someone based on this?
This OP and article is asking about uncovered tattoos. Secondarily offensive uncovered tattoos.
Get a full sleeve, tattoo yourself blue like a Smurf if you want, as long as the tattoo is covered on a public servant who cares? If a police officer has a tattoo visible it shouldn't be of a swastica, a naked lady, a swear word, or a Van liver Canucks logo.
At the end of the day police officers have to testify in court, perhaps a non-offensive tattoo would negatively affect their testimony if it was visible to the court room. If it's not visible what difference does it make?
This thread isn't supposed to be about tattoos but visible tattoos on public servants and police officers.
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10-27-2012, 11:23 AM
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#107
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Haha I totally judge all you wusses with no tattoos... Live a little you boring 9-5ers
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10-28-2012, 03:57 AM
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#108
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout
Why did you keep your tattoos completely covered?
This thread seems to have shifted to whether getting a tattoo is a good idea, and would people you judge someone based on this?
This OP and article is asking about uncovered tattoos. Secondarily offensive uncovered tattoos.
Get a full sleeve, tattoo yourself blue like a Smurf if you want, as long as the tattoo is covered on a public servant who cares? If a police officer has a tattoo visible it shouldn't be of a swastica, a naked lady, a swear word, or a Van liver Canucks logo.
At the end of the day police officers have to testify in court, perhaps a non-offensive tattoo would negatively affect their testimony if it was visible to the court room. If it's not visible what difference does it make?
This thread isn't supposed to be about tattoos but visible tattoos on public servants and police officers.
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They were covered at first because I worked in an office and wore dress clothes. Same reason I didn't wear a pair of sandals and cargo shorts. I was also a naive, new grad who thought that dress shirts vs something like a golf shirt would make a difference.
Uncovered tattoos? Who cares... Offensive tattoos? Different story I agree they shouldn't be visible.
Secondly this whole idea of a visible tattoo while testifying is RARELY ever going to be the case. Court is pretty formal and a simple solution would be mandating that a suit must be worn. If it's on the neck, there are ways that can be covered as well. When a cop is on the job otherwise, who cares if you can see the koi fish on his bicep.
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10-28-2012, 08:45 AM
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#109
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Ben
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: God's Country (aka Cape Breton Island)
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Originally Posted by AFireInside
They were covered at first because I worked in an office and wore dress clothes. Same reason I didn't wear a pair of sandals and cargo shorts. I was also a naive, new grad who thought that dress shirts vs something like a golf shirt would make a difference.
Uncovered tattoos? Who cares... Offensive tattoos? Different story I agree they shouldn't be visible.
Secondly this whole idea of a visible tattoo while testifying is RARELY ever going to be the case. Court is pretty formal and a simple solution would be mandating that a suit must be worn. If it's on the neck, there are ways that can be covered as well. When a cop is on the job otherwise, who cares if you can see the koi fish on his bicep.
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That's exactly how I think things should be. It's also how I understood the argument in the article.
I think it essentially boils down to two things:
1. Get tattoos where they can be hidden.
2. Don't get offensive tattoos if they can't be hidden.
Bonus #3. Don't be like Mike and get a tramp stamp on your face.
Otherwise have at it. If that's your thing.
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10-28-2012, 12:43 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout
That's exactly how I think things should be. It's also how I understood the argument in the article.
I think it essentially boils down to two things:
1. Get tattoos where they can be hidden.
2. Don't get offensive tattoos if they can't be hidden.
Bonus #3. Don't be like Mike and get a tramp stamp on your face.
Otherwise have at it. If that's your thing.
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I don't disagree with you, but here's the problem. The CPS wear short sleeved shirts, the ones with tattoos shouldn't have to cover themselves while the others don't.
They all wear long sleeved or short sleeved, unless it's offensive then they fall under different guidelines.
Next if someone has an offensive tattoo I would expect they would have a hard time getting hired. A cop with a swastika tattoo? No way..
Someone with a non offensive tattoo shouldn't have to cover it.
I've been a public servant, to me it's silly..
I find that most people I deal with that wear square tipped dress shoes are annoying. Should they be forced to wear standard ones because I have a silly bias? No. That's my problem and my issue to deal with since clearly it's a silly bias.
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10-28-2012, 01:13 PM
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Who decides what is offensive.
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10-28-2012, 07:23 PM
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#112
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by zamler
Who decides what is offensive.
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I suppose that's part of the problem, but I'm sure they can decide that in a reasonable manner. They, being the dept.
99.9% of tattoos won't be anyways.
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10-28-2012, 07:58 PM
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#113
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I find koi fish extremely offensive.
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10-28-2012, 08:06 PM
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#114
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Playboy Mansion Poolboy
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Close enough to make a beer run during a TV timeout
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Here's a serious question; what about the chinese characters that were popular among non-Asians around 10 years ago. Now I know there are several jokes floating around the internet about people not knowing what they meant; being convinced it meant "beef & brocoli", etc.
However the two people I knew who had them, they weren't entirely sure what they meant. So what if an officer has something offensive that he isn't aware is offensive? Or a question for our Chinese members; is there something in Cantonese that might be offensive in Mandarin? (Or vice versa?)
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10-28-2012, 08:23 PM
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Funny because before this thread I really never noticed or paid attention to tattoos on cops and today for the first time I see two cops together at Tim Horton's and they both have tattoo sleeves.
I thought it looked pretty cool on them and I think it made them more human-like instead of just a police officer. Kinda makes you relate to them and shows that under their uniform they are just normal like the rest of us.
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10-28-2012, 10:22 PM
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#116
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by stang
Haha I totally judge all you wusses with no tattoos... Live a little you boring 9-5ers
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I can't think of any way to live life to the fullest more than getting the equivalent of a hairy twat drawn on my skin.
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10-28-2012, 10:42 PM
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#117
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Join Date: Feb 2011
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Originally Posted by ken0042
Here's a serious question; what about the chinese characters that were popular among non-Asians around 10 years ago. Now I know there are several jokes floating around the internet about people not knowing what they meant; being convinced it meant "beef & brocoli", etc.
However the two people I knew who had them, they weren't entirely sure what they meant. So what if an officer has something offensive that he isn't aware is offensive? Or a question for our Chinese members; is there something in Cantonese that might be offensive in Mandarin? (Or vice versa?)
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Now, I thought the difference between Cantonese and Mandarin was mainly in the pronunciation of words?
Anyway, I have asked my wife (Mandarin) sometimes about people's tattoos when it's just some single character, and usually representing "peace", or "honour" or something insipid like that.
I would find it pretty funny if the tattoo artists were working off a Chinese menu as their reference.
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10-30-2012, 11:18 AM
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#118
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Originally Posted by Iginla
Funny because before this thread I really never noticed or paid attention to tattoos on cops and today for the first time I see two cops together at Tim Horton's and they both have tattoo sleeves.
I thought it looked pretty cool on them and I think it made them more human-like instead of just a police officer. Kinda makes you relate to them and shows that under their uniform they are just normal like the rest of us.
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