Billionaire Oilers owner Katz gave $430,000 to Alberta PCs

[Muta]

Originally Posted by RubberDuck

Why don't you get that the only one that needs this clarification is you.

I don't need clarification. I knows she has that agenda, but that's not the point. Try to follow along.

Originally Posted by RubberDuck

My agenda is just as obvious as everyone elses. Clearly stating it is just dumbing it down for those that don't already get it.

Firstly, I don't care about your agenda - I've never even seen you on this board before, and don't really know (or care) who you are. Good for you for admitting you ahve one, hopefully it makes you feel happy... but I don't care about yours, chief. No offense or anything.

FL doesn't have to admit she has an agenda. I just find it funny that she can't admit it. If it's as 'dumb' as you say, then it should be fairly easy to do - are you suggesting FL can't even do 'dumb' tasks? That's pretty insulting to her, if so. I wouldn't go that far.

[crazy_eoj]

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Dion

You can't seem to let it go and will most likey hound her till you get the answer you want.

Yes sir. If she admits it eventually, that's good enough for me, I won't judge whatsoever. There's nothing wrong with admitting you have an agenda.

I've always just wanted to hear it from the horses mouth directly. The whole 'who, me?' schitck she uses to when creating threads with these types of topics is getting comical. Also, not sure why she can't just create an 'All-Encompassing Wildrose Alliance Thread' or 'All-Encompassing Anti-PC Thread' and then post topics like these in there... you know, just to have one thread for all of them.

[woob]

I definitely have an agenda.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

I think this is the tweet you are referring to

https://twitter.com/JacobSpirit1

which references this from the Edm Journal:

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...ons/table.html

however, there is no timeline associated with the donations; doubtful he has anything

Right this $422k is completely different from that $430k because....well why exactly? If people think that Katz giving that money and putting there through his family then we have to at least acknowledge that this might be a concern.

Originally Posted by Rathji

Everyone has an agenda, of course.

Which is why I don't see why calling someone out on it is really relevant, especially if they are 100% transparent about it.

First Lady is a Wildrose supporter! News of the decade here, folks. In other news, MMF and Bertuzzied have hard-ons for Android and Slava is a dirty socialist.

No way, I'm dead center and completely rational. Everyone else is a radical one way or the other!

[crazy_eoj]

Originally Posted by Muta

Yes sir. If she admits it eventually, that's good enough for me, I won't judge whatsoever. There's nothing wrong with admitting you have an agenda.

I've always just wanted to hear it from the horses mouth directly. The whole 'who, me?' schitck she uses to when creating threads with these types of topics is getting comical. Also, not sure why she can't just create an 'All-Encompassing Wildrose Alliance Thread' or 'All-Encompassing Anti-PC Thread' and then post topics like these in there... you know, just to have one thread for all of them.

I think most people would agree your whole 'holier than thou' quest to expose some hidden agenda that doesn't exist is the most comical schtick in this thread.

Why don't you start a thread about your quest and those that want to discuss politics (and yes, unfortunately political news does happen frequently) can stay in here?

[crazy_eoj]

Originally Posted by Slava

Right this $422k is completely different from that $430k because....well why exactly? If people think that Katz giving that money and putting there through his family then we have to at least acknowledge that this might be a concern.

Any idea what or where that list is from? Katz doesn't even appear on it... can't be the same donation period.

[Rerun]

Cards are on the table... Created a signature, so God forbid, nobody accuses me of having a hidden agenda. Heaven forbid I should have to endure that crap that First Lady has.

Which political party do you support Muta? Why don't you lay your cards on the table?

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Slava

No way, I'm dead center and completely rational. Everyone else is a radical one way or the other!

Just because you are a commie, doesn't mean you are not rational.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by crazy_eoj

I think most people would agree your whole 'holier than thou' quest to expose some hidden agenda that doesn't exist is the most comical schtick in this thread.

You think she doesn't have an agenda? You think it 'doesn't exist'? Wow. I think most people would agree that she HAS an agenda, and the fact that you can't see that she does is truly the comical bit.

Originally Posted by crazy_eoj

Why don't you start a thread about your quest and those that want to discuss politics (and yes, unfortunately political news does happen frequently) can stay in here?

Nah. Why don't you go post about me in the 'what grinds your gears' thread? I'll be happy to not read it, and you can go to town on me all you want. Really, a win-win scenario.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by crazy_eoj

Any idea what or where that list is from? Katz doesn't even appear on it... can't be the same donation period.

I haven't got a clue, honestly. I am not for a second suggesting that there is any impropriety here by the Wildrose. I just think that parties receiving donations from one person/family of this magnitude show everything is wrong with the electoral finance laws in the province today though.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by Slava

I haven't got a clue, honestly. I am not for a second suggesting that there is any impropriety here by the Wildrose. I just think that parties receiving donations from one person/family of this magnitude show everything is wrong with the electoral finance laws in the province today though.

This... (overall it just gives off such a stinky smell).

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Rerun

Which political party do you support Muta? Why don't you lay your cards on the table?

Not that you actually care, but at the moment, I don't support either the WRA or the PC's. Or anyone at the moment, for that matter. I have no political leanings at the moment - I'm deciding my options. If you're so butt hurt about my political preferences, I'll for sure let you know what I decide shortly before the next election.

[Slava]

http://janemorgan.blogspot.ca/2012/0...e-why-you.html

Some great comments here about the financial system (electorally) and why this is so difficult to police on a constituency level. I especially appreciate the points regarding the constituency association treasurers and their overall lack of experience and knowledge.

In general, people have this idea that political parties and campaigns are incredibly well thought out and planned. I have some terrible news for you. For the most part these are organizations that are volunteer dominated and not as well planned as might be believed by the general public. Most campaigns on the local level are literally a group of say 6-12 really dedicated people banging the whole thing out; yes there are people knocking on doors, delivering flyers, making phone calls, etc. but the heart of these campaigns is really small and not glorious.

So when you see that a party ended up with a donation they ought not to have and think "don't the PCs know better?" The answer is yes....the party probably does. The guy on the front-line taking that cheque though might honestly not. Its not underhanded and its not strategically malicious at all, but just a simple case of them not knowing any better. Certainly that doesn't absolve people who did know better of their actions; I would never advocate that. All I am suggesting here is that its not as cut and dried as people think.

[crazy_eoj]

Originally Posted by Muta

You think she doesn't have an agenda? You think it 'doesn't exist'? Wow. I think most people would agree that she HAS an agenda, and the fact that you can't see that she does is truly the comical bit.

Time to check the reading comprehension there Muta. I said there was no hidden agenda. Clearly, everyone has an agenda, you are the only one who seems to be having trouble figuring it out.


Nah. Why don't you go post about me in the 'what grinds your gears' thread? I'll be happy to not read it, and you can go to town on me all you want. Really, a win-win scenario.[/QUOTE]

I'm going to add your inability to read in that thread too.

[RubberDuck]

Originally Posted by Muta

Firstly, I don't care about your agenda - I've never even seen you on this board before, and don't really know (or care) who you are. Good for you for admitting you ahve one, hopefully it makes you feel happy... but I don't care about yours, chief. No offense or anything.

Chief...really??? Believe me, nobody cares who you are either. Name calling and bad spelling really detract from making you the legend you are in your own mind.

Apologies to anyone who wanted to discuss the subject of this thread. I won't continue to engage in schoolyard mudslinging.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by crazy_eoj

Time to check the reading comprehension there Muta. I said there was no hidden agenda. Clearly, everyone has an agenda, you are the only one who seems to be having trouble figuring it out.

Completely agree with you. If there's no hidden agenda, then why does she hide it? I, more than you, know that she has one. Try to keep up here.

Originally Posted by crazy_eoj

I'm going to add your inability to read in that thread too.

I might push for admittance in this thread from FL - but your increasingly awkward obsession with me is becoming more and more creepy.

Nevertheless, feel free to waste your time getting butthurt on the internet over a random user on a message board, and post about me until your little heart is content!

[Muta]

Originally Posted by RubberDuck

Chief...really??? Believe me, nobody cares who you are either. Name calling and bad spelling really detract from making you the legend you are in your own mind.

Apologies to anyone who wanted to discuss the subject of this thread. I won't continue to engage in schoolyard mudslinging.

Calling you 'chief' is insulting? How so? That's not insulting at all... it's a word that's on the same level as 'bro' or 'bud'. I apologize if that was insulting to you.

But you're complaining about a mis-spelling of the word 'have'? Dude, it's the Internet. If you get mad over a spelling error, perhaps the Internet isn't for you.

[RubberDuck]

First on ignore list = Muta. Feels pretty good. Don't waste your time crazy_eoj.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by RubberDuck

First on ignore list = Muta. Feels pretty good. Don't waste your time crazy_eoj.

Best idea for you all day.