Liberals introduce motion calling for formal process to repeal Indian Act

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by rayne008

Give every native person $500,000.
All lands go back to the crown.

As of January 1st, you are Canadian and that's it.

Did you spend a long time doing the math on that?

[J epworth]

Originally Posted by rayne008

Give every native person $500,000.
All lands go back to the crown.

As of January 1st, you are Canadian and that's it.

That would cost around 586 billion dollars if you gave every aboriginal person in Canada that settlement, which is more than 2x Canada's yearly revenue.

Even if you could convince them that only Status Indians would get this money, that would still be 564,000 people, or a total of 282.4 billion dollars, still higher than Canada's last revenue of 255 billion.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by rayne008

Give every native person $500,000.
All lands go back to the crown.

As of January 1st, you are Canadian and that's it.

Holy smoke Batman! By any chance are you an indian.... er... meant to say native... or is it aboriginal?... or maybe its first nations person?, are you??

By the way, what IS the politically correct term today?

[polak]

Originally Posted by Rerun

Holy smoke Batman! By any chance are you an indian.... er... meant to say native... or is it aboriginal?... or maybe its first nations person?, are you??

By the way, what IS the politically correct term today?

Human

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Rerun

Holy smoke Batman! By any chance are you an indian.... er... meant to say native... or is it aboriginal?... or maybe its first nations person?, are you??

By the way, what IS the politically correct term today?

First Nations.....or at least that is what my status, blond haired neighbour calls himself.

[J epworth]

Originally Posted by Rerun

Holy smoke Batman! By any chance are you an indian.... er... meant to say native... or is it aboriginal?... or maybe its first nations person?, are you??

By the way, what IS the politically correct term today?

Aboriginal person is meant to encompass first nations, metis and Inuit people. First Nations is the official term for all identified groups which are not metis or Inuit. Then they usually self identify as to their tribe; "I'm cree" or "I'm Haida" etc.

It's all a confusing cluster***, especially when they sometimes self identify as Indian, and find the terms native, first nations or aboriginals offensive. On reserve first nations people almost never call themselves aboriginal however, usually just their tribe or first nations person.

In conclusion, no matter what you say you're probably going to piss off somebody.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by polak

Human

rich coming from "polak"

[polak]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

rich coming from "polak"

I thought "eskimo of the south" might be too much for some of the people on here

[OffsideSpecialist]

The federal department is Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development, so I figure that Aboriginal is probably the most PC term to use.

[Muta]

Why would each native person recieve that type of money? Couldn't there be alternative forms of compensation, like continued paid-for tuition if they choose to take that route? I'm okay with that. That's an ROI the government can benefit from in the long-run.

I'm not sure what giving one-time payouts of ludicrous sums of money does for people whom are centuries removed from what these payments would originally be purposed for.

[polak]

Originally Posted by Muta

Why would each native person recieve that type of money? Couldn't there be alternative forms of compensation, like continued paid-for tuition if they choose to take that route? I'm okay with that. That's an ROI the government can benefit from in the long-run.

I'm not sure what giving one-time payouts of ludicrous sums of money does for people whom are centuries removed from what these payments would originally be purposed for.

I thought they already have that option available for them?

[Rathji]

I was in a class about Native culture and customs in the spring, and one of the questions the class brought up was about why one of the people teaching the class called themselves an Indian and why one said Native. The response was generally the more entrenched in the person was in the 'Native' culture as they were raised, the more likely they are to use something like Indian or Native and less likely to use something like First Nations or Aboriginal. As previously mentioned, they normally will refer to themselves as Cree etc before any of those options.

As for political correctness, both said anything but Indian would be universally considered PC.

[Rerun]

For arguments sake, lets say the government does give each first nations/native/aboriginal/indian man, woman, and child 1/2 a million dollars.

How long do you think that would actually last? Why the swindlers and con men would be descending onto the reserves in droves and I suspect the alcoholism and drug addition rate would sky rocket.

I don't want to sound racist (I know, I know... thats exactly what I'm sounding like) but most indians living on a reserve wouldn't be able to handle 1/2 a million dollars in their bank account.... god that sounds awful... even to me... but I believe it does ring true.

.... and after the money was gone they would be worse off than they are now.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by polak

I thought they already have that option available for them?

They do, but out of good faith and for ease of transition, continue that program for the next 15-20 years for any person of aboriginal status. I think that would be a very nice goodwill gesture on the part of the government. Plus, not everyone would use it, so the cost is likely less than one thinks.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Rerun

By the way, what IS the politically correct term today?

Every one I've ever known has called himself an Indian.

Of course, they also weren't the most politically correct people I've ever met, and the most racist Indian jokes I ever heard were told by them.

[jammies]

Half of the non-native population wouldn't know what to do with half a million dollars either. Me included.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by jammies

Half of the non-native population wouldn't know what to do with half a million dollars either. Me included.

I suspect that once I paid off my house, I would quickly find some way to blow a sizable portion of that money, but I would like to think that at least half of the remaining money would be spent somewhat responsibly.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by jammies

Half of the non-native population wouldn't know what to do with half a million dollars either. Me included.

Any time you have money handed to you without earning it, it's likely you won't know how to handle it properly.

Let them keep the land, but it's no longer some tax free zone that doesn't have to abide by the same laws as everybody else. And no more handing out of mass lump sums of cash, it's proven to be a disaster and doesn't work.

[Rerun]

So true. You see those shows on tv about people who won a million dollars and then a few years later they're broke because they pissed it away.

[Azure]

If the government gave each Native in Canada a half million dollars, the liquor industry in Canada would report substantial increase in profits the following year.

Should it happen, I would almost certainly be buying stock in every publicly traded company in Canada that produces and sells any form of alcohol including mouthwash and rubbing alcohol.

EDIT: GREEN TEXT.