10-19-2012, 03:24 AM
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Court awards family $150,000,000,000 in damages.
This story is severely fataed up. I'll put tags over the youtube video as it shows a burn victim. Basically, this guy rapes an 8 year old kid, then two weeks later pours gasoline over him and sets him on fire. The kid got terminal cancer from all this and eventually died.
Happened in Texas.
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10-19-2012, 07:24 AM
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You know what, I think I will be ok with your summary and not watch the video.
I'm sure I will come to the same emotion, if not more, than I have right now.
This looks like a story I would be better off not remembering.
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10-19-2012, 08:46 AM
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Why not 160,000,000,000?
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10-19-2012, 09:18 AM
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^^^ that would just be greedy.
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10-19-2012, 09:47 AM
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Stepping aside from the obvious horribleness of it all, does the court not take into consideration net worth or 'ability to pay?'
Presuming of course that the raping arsonist isnt Warren Buffet, Bill Gates or a Qatari Oil Sheik...
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10-19-2012, 10:20 AM
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It's more of a symbolic gesture. The family will basically not recover anything.
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10-19-2012, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Locke
Stepping aside from the obvious horribleness of it all, does the court not take into consideration net worth or 'ability to pay?'
Presuming of course that the raping arsonist isnt Warren Buffet, Bill Gates or a Qatari Oil Sheik...
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They're not going to get their son back, and their son is not going to get his life back.
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10-19-2012, 10:45 AM
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How does the terminal cancer relate to this? Isn't that just a coincidence?
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10-19-2012, 10:47 AM
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How does the terminal cancer relate to this? Isn't that just a coincidence?
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The type of cancer he had was caused by the ongoing skin graf procedures he had to get.
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10-19-2012, 11:48 AM
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It should also be noted, the guy who did this to the kid was never charged with anything, and this in a state where the death penalty exists.
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10-19-2012, 11:53 AM
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It should also be noted, the guy who did this to the kid was never charged with anything, and this in a state where the death penalty exists.
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Obviously they're aware of the case, and I'm sure they were well aware of the incident when it happened, so I assume they lack the evidence to obtain a criminal conviction, which is a shame.
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10-19-2012, 12:13 PM
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Obviously they're aware of the case, and I'm sure they were well aware of the incident when it happened, so I assume they lack the evidence to obtain a criminal conviction, which is a shame.
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But then the question is, if there is enough evidence to award 150 billion, surely there would enough for a conviction. Are the evidence requirements in civil vs criminal courts different?
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10-19-2012, 12:18 PM
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But then the question is, if there is enough evidence to award 150 billion, surely there would enough for a conviction. Are the evidence requirements in civil vs criminal courts different?
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Yes they are.
"Beyond a reasonable doubt" vs "weight of the evidence".
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10-19-2012, 12:19 PM
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But then the question is, if there is enough evidence to award 150 billion, surely there would enough for a conviction. Are the evidence requirements in civil vs criminal courts different?
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I not a lawyer, I'am sure valo or someone else could explain better, but the answer is yes, the difference is huge. In Criminal court guilt has to be proved beyond a reasonable doubt, while in Civil court guilt only has to be proved based on a preponderance of the evidence. Meaning the culprit is more likely guilty then not, but not necessarily guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
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10-19-2012, 12:19 PM
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But then the question is, if there is enough evidence to award 150 billion, surely there would enough for a conviction. Are the evidence requirements in civil vs criminal courts different?
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I'm not sure how legal matters in the US differ from those in Canada, but in Canada, the burden of proof is different between criminal and civil matters. I believe in oder to convict someone of a crime you must prove beyong a reasonable doubt that said person commiited the actual crime. Civil matters work more on a balance of probabilities ie:is it more likely thatn not that an offense was committed.
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10-19-2012, 12:20 PM
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He was 13 at the time and is being charged with murder now.
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10-19-2012, 12:36 PM
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They're unlikely to receive a dime.
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10-19-2012, 12:57 PM
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But then the question is, if there is enough evidence to award 150 billion, surely there would enough for a conviction. Are the evidence requirements in civil vs criminal courts different?
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Beyond a reasonable doubt
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Balance of probabilities (i.e. Judge can find that it is 60% likely that he did it, and rule in a civil matter against him).
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10-19-2012, 12:59 PM
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Beyond a reasonable doubt
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Balance of probabilities (i.e. Judge can find that it is 60% likely that he did it, and rule in a civil matter against him).
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Which actually makes sense based on the repercussions of each.
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10-19-2012, 01:00 PM
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Wow, there's no way I can afford to rape an 8 year old kid, pour gasoline on him and set him on fire. I'd better reconsider.
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