Sven "Fricken" Bartschi!

[zukes]

Aliu's talent, grit and toughness have never been in question since his days as a 16 year old in Windsor. It's always been his attitude. From all accounts, including Ward, he seems to have turned a corner, thus him playing the last couple games last year and not looking out of place with the Flames.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Moon up to his usual shenanigans. If Aliu had a serious attitude problem he wouldn't have been recalled and he wouldn't still be with the Flames org. Seems like you're flat out making something out of not much. Par for the course with you and your trolling.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by moon

I would hope the Flames are good enough that they don't need scrubs like Aliu on the big club.

Who do you prefer play the fourth line? There are only so much Matt Stajans to go around.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Moon up to his usual shenanigans. If Aliu had a serious attitude problem he wouldn't have been recalled and he wouldn't still be with the Flames org. Seems like you're flat out making something out of not much. Par for the course with you and your trolling.

Making what up?

The kid has had trouble sticking with teams/organizations and was a healthy scratch in the AHL play-offs last year for the Heat. That isn't made up.

There is no trolling in saying that a guy that has had trouble sticking in the AHL isn't a guy I would like to see on my favorite NHL team.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Iginla

Who do you prefer play the fourth line? There are only so much Matt Stajans to go around.

I prefer guys that don't have issues sticking with AHL teams.

[transplant99]

Aliu being a healthy scratch in the playoffs means...nothing. His role is one that simply doesnt have the same impact in crunch time as it does through a regular season, its why enforcers are regular sitters in the post season.

But no, its all because he had an attitude issue when he was elsewhere...that never happens with young guys.

[moon]

If he isn't good enough to play in the AHL even during the vaunted AHL play-offs then I am not keen on him in the NHL. Not sure what the last line has to do with anything because I don't see where anyone mentioned that in this thread.

[Captain_Obvious]

Originally Posted by moon

If he isn't good enough to play in the AHL even during the vaunted AHL play-offs then I am not keen on him in the NHL. Not sure what the last line has to do with anything because I don't see where anyone mentioned that in this thread.

You couldn't be more short sighted.

Guy is 23 years old.

Different men mature both as people and as players at different ages. Suggesting that because he had trouble sticking or finding his niche at 20 to 22 is an outright joke.

And as was mentioned above, sitting in a playoff game when you're an early 20s 4th liner means absolutely nothing.

As usual Moon you're full of it and allow your penchant for being negative towards just about any prospect in our system completely skew your judgement.

Every point you brought up about the guy is short sighted and unfair.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by moon

I never said anything like that at all.

And LOL at Captain Obvious and his same old made up BS.

Hopefully Sven can keep his strong play going.

The lockout and time in the AHL was a real benefit to a lot of prospects last time so hopefully Sven can use this like guys like Staal, Getzlaf and Perry did and develop into a top line guy.

Dude, if everyone thinks you're the biggest tool on the board... I don't know how else to tell you this man, it's not everyone else. Fix yourself.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by moon

Making what up?

The kid has had trouble sticking with teams/organizations and was a healthy scratch in the AHL play-offs last year for the Heat. That isn't made up.

There is no trolling in saying that a guy that has had trouble sticking in the AHL isn't a guy I would like to see on my favorite NHL team.

Big whoop if he was a healthy scratch for the Heat. They had extra forwards including Reinhart and Jessiman added late in the season and also had Horak, Nemisz (injured I believe?) and Bouma sent down further complicating the depth for coach Ward.

He played 5 out of the 8 games in the playoffs. You make it out like he never played. Typical Moon spin doctoring.

"has had trouble sticking in the AHL"

He hasn't had trouble sticking in the AHL for us, that is where you are flat out misleading or spinning things. Yes, that is making stuff up.

Enough of your BS bro, it was tired years ago. Half of your posts are trolling you're just too dense to realize it I guess?

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Dude, if everyone thinks you're the biggest tool on the board... I don't know how else to tell you this man, it's not everyone else. Fix yourself.

Amen

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by moon

If he isn't good enough to play in the AHL even during the vaunted AHL play-offs then I am not keen on him in the NHL.

So I guess you're saying the same of Reinhart then? He was also healthy scratched last year in the AHL playoffs? Or are you going to take an inconsistent stance there? It would be typical

[moon]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Big whoop if he was a healthy scratch for the Heat. They had extra forwards including Reinhart and Jessiman added late in the season and also had Horak, Nemisz (injured I believe?) and Bouma sent down further complicating the depth for coach Ward.

He played 5 out of the 8 games in the playoffs. You make it out like he never played. Typical Moon spin doctoring.

"has had trouble sticking in the AHL"

He hasn't had trouble sticking in the AHL for us, that is where you are flat out misleading or spinning things. Yes, that is making stuff up.

Enough of your BS bro, it was tired years ago. Half of your posts are trolling you're just too dense to realize it I guess?

The fact that guys like that passed him over illustrates more why I don't think he should be in the Flames plans. We have other guys younger that are showing more than him.

As for not having trouble sticking for us he has been here for what 1/2 a season pretty short time frame.

Not concerned about a 19 year old that spent his entire season in junior being sat compared to a 22/23 year old struggling all year long with consistency.

[moon]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Dude, if everyone thinks you're the biggest tool on the board... I don't know how else to tell you this man, it's not everyone else. Fix yourself.

I am fine thanks.

I would take a look at the same bunch of posters that overeact because of who posted it.

Really saying that you hope the Flames have better players than Akim Aliu isn't a big deal but because some posters look only at the poster and then overeact and make stuff up to fit their fantasy world these things get blown out of proportion.

Hopefully Sven keeps up the solid play and pots some more points tonight.

[PlayfulGenius]

Does anyone else think Sven could have Markus Naslund-like upside at the NHL level?

For some reason he reminds of him, although his attitude is not as subdued as Naslund's was.

It's probably uncool to compare him to a Canuck, sorry for that.

Any other takes on NHL comparables?

[PlayfulGenius]

Does anyone else think Sven could have Markus Naslund-like upside at the NHL level?

For some reason he reminds of him, although his attitude is not as subdued as Naslund's was.

It's probably uncool to compare him to a Canuck, sorry for that.

Any other takes on NHL comparables?

[moon]

Originally Posted by PlayfulGenius

Does anyone else think Sven could have Markus Naslund-like upside at the NHL level?

For some reason he reminds of him, although his attitude is not as subdued as Naslund's was.

It's probably uncool to compare him to a Canuck, sorry for that.

Any other takes on NHL comparables?

I have heard a lot of Marian Hossa comparisons.

Not sure if it is because they both played in Portland or not but that is a name I have heard.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by moon

The fact that guys like that passed him over illustrates more why I don't think he should be in the Flames plans. We have other guys younger that are showing more than him.

As for not having trouble sticking for us he has been here for what 1/2 a season pretty short time frame.

Not concerned about a 19 year old that spent his entire season in junior being sat compared to a 22/23 year old struggling all year long with consistency.

Guys like what? Horak? Reinhart? Those aren't players playing the same role as Aliu in the AHL nor will they be competing with Aliu for the same role in the NHL. I thought you knew enough about hockey to differentiate things like that?

Love how you are more concerned about him not playing a couple games in the AHL playoffs VS how good he actually looked in the NHL for a couple of games. It makes your priority, bias, etc pretty obvious. You say you want players better than Aliu and then use the depth we had as an argument against him. If you were more of a fan you'd be hoping for him to mature and turn into a really great grinder. Obviously you don't like him, don't wish him the best or don't want certain Flames prospects to turn out. Everyone else can see it but you I guess.

You're a joke.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by moon

I am fine thanks.

I would take a look at the same bunch of posters that overeact because of who posted it.

Really saying that you hope the Flames have better players than Akim Aliu isn't a big deal but because some posters look only at the poster and then overeact and make stuff up to fit their fantasy world these things get blown out of proportion.

LOL. Oh martyr me, everyone overreacts to my trolls because they hate Moon!

Get over yourself. People react the way they do to you because you post outlandish opinions that aren't well supported by facts or evidence. Your constant negativity and spin doctoring is very old.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Guys like what? Horak? Reinhart? Those aren't players playing the same role as Aliu in the AHL nor will they be competing with Aliu for the same role in the NHL. I thought you knew enough about hockey to differentiate things like that?

This isn't 1990, teams are competing with guys who actually can play hockey and contribute to the team not fill a niche role for 5 minutes a game.

Love how you are more concerned about him not playing a couple games in the AHL playoffs VS how good he actually looked in the NHL for a couple of games. It makes your priority, bias, etc pretty obvious. You say you want players better than Aliu and then use the depth we had as an argument against him. If you were more of a fan you'd be hoping for him to mature and turn into a really great grinder. Obviously you don't like him, don't wish him the best or don't want certain Flames prospects to turn out. Everyone else can see it but you I guess.

I watched him play in the NHL and it wasn't anything impressive.

Laugh at the "more of a fan" BS. It doesn't make you more of a fan to blindly believe that everyone in the organization is great.