CFL 2012 regular season thread

[Drake]

David William Naylor ‏:

"Esks to demote Marcus Crandell to QB coach, Kavis Reed to take over the play calling."

LMFAO at the clown show in Edmonton as I think this a big joke, Kavis Reed only has coaching experience specials team and defense. Maybe I'm wrong and he has coached the offense side of the ball at one time? Once again, what a joke.

[moon]

Bill Walsh could come in and call plays for the Esks and with the pile of crap they have on offender I am not sure it would matter.

That said it is odd that a guy with zero experience as a player or coach is taking over the putrid offence the Esks have.

[Flickered Flame]

The best news of the announcement is that Reed has named Kerry Joseph the starting QB, Matt Nichols the backup and Jyles as #3.

I'm really enjoying the gong show they have going up in Edmonton.

When the league starting enforcing the salary cap, I think it hurt the Eskimos more than any other team in the league.

[OzSome]

Originally Posted by Drake

David William Naylor ‏:

"Esks to demote Marcus Crandell to QB coach, Kavis Reed to take over the play calling."

LMFAO at the clown show in Edmonton as I think this a big joke, Kavis Reed only has coaching experience specials team and defense. Maybe I'm wrong and he has coached the offense side of the ball at one time? Once again, what a joke.

I just don't get what Kavis Reed is doing. I am not complaining though. hehehe!! I am not saying Marcus Crandell is the problem or not but i find it strange how Reed makes his freaking decision. Most of the time they have communication problem in this team. I think i have to put the onus on him. He dressed 4 RBs one time but did not run the ball much and the guys were confused on who is supposed to be in and who is out. Can't make up on who will start the QB every game. The guy can't coach. I am wondering how the heck did they had a good season last season. Yep, i love the gong show in Edmonton.

[M*A*S*H 4077]

And to the surprise of no one:

"Head Coach Tim Burke has announced QB Buck Pierce suffered a mild concussion during last week's game." -- Wpg Blue Bombers (@Wpg_BlueBombers)

Hang up the cleats Buck. Join the Bombers in a coaching role of some sorts

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Originally Posted by M*A*S*H 4077

And to the surprise of no one:

"Head Coach Tim Burke has announced QB Buck Pierce suffered a mild concussion during last week's game." -- Wpg Blue Bombers (@Wpg_BlueBombers)

Hang up the cleats Buck. Join the Bombers in a coaching role of some sorts

Agreed. The guy's going to end up living only 20 more years if he's not careful.

[Bertuzzied]

Oiler infestation hitting the Eskimos. Ugh i'm going to be there at the end of October. I hope it's not air borne.

hahahaha. I'm not an expert... when then why the flying F would you be calling plays? I hope to see the flea flicker every 2nd play.

Reed also said he’d take on a more active role in game planning and play selection.
“This is going to obviously need the entire coaching staff, the offensive staff’s co-operation as I’m not an expert in offences,” Reed said. “I have a working understanding, but I’m not an expert. This is more of a leadership role versus coming in and being the orchestrator of the offence.”

[Flickered Flame]

Burris has thrown 2 picks already tonight.

[Flickered Flame]

How about them Cats?! 5 turnovers and getting booted around by Edmonton.

[Flickered Flame]

Make it 6 turnovers.

[PeteLFan]

Henry has always been the big turnover.

[OzSome]

It's funny Suitor and Cutthbert always use the defensive personnel's injuries for the Eskimos for those Eskies' slump. Calgary had tons of injuries on their defense and that doesn't prevent them from winning games. Just to remind those bozos, we have a rotating Defensive Line because of the injuries to Corey Mace, Chris McCoy, Justin Phillips, Bolden and some ineffective plays by rookies Robinson(released). Then on secondary, we lost the likes of Quincy Butler, Brandon Smith, Demetrice Morley. That's a lot of injuries..

I think the problem with the Eskies was communication problems between the players, coaches and just plain bad offense especially on the QB side. How many times we have seen a timeout being called because they are either short players on the field or they have more? I think the coaching staff are confused on that team. Lucky for them to win against the Hamilton last night. They are pretty lucky Burris Jekkyl and Hyde personality came to play. There are times he plays like that awesome HANK that we know and also there are times that he played like the FRANK that we know. Hope Hamilton starts winning to avoid the crossover playoff spot for the Eskies.

[M*A*S*H 4077]

One of the differences in injuries between Calgary and Edmonton is (I believe) Edmonton lost 6 Dlinemen. That's the entire group you dress for a game. I don't view it as an as excuse but that's a lot harder than losing 2 or 3 like Calgary did.

Injuries balance out over the course of the season.

I don't think Morley being out has hurt the Stamps at all. Randle is a better cover guy and doesn't take the major penalty per game like Morley tended to do for a while.


Edit: you're right in saying Edmonton's biggest problem is communication. Dress two kickers and don't tell them which one is kicking the field goal!

[OzSome]

I am so tired of TSN's commercial on 13th man.. There is one instance there that kind of make me laugh when some guy saying something about the players' accountability and fans never blame the player for mistakes or some sort..don't remember the whole line. As I recall, some fans trashed McCallum's yard or something like that when McCallum missed a field goal on an important game. hmmm...

[Machiavelli]

The Bombers seem to win when I least expect them to.

[OzSome]

Okay, i thought I knew all or maybe most of the CFL ruling but now I puzzled with this special team play by Saskatchewan.

DeAngelis kicked the ball on a kickoff. Owens let the ball bounce out of bounds but before it does, Butler from Saskatchewan came in barging and trying to get the ball. The question is how is legal for Butler to touch the ball? Was DeAngelis kick less than 10 yards or I don't know what the heck is going on..

[M*A*S*H 4077]

Originally Posted by OzSome

Okay, i thought I knew all or maybe most of the CFL ruling but now I puzzled with this special team play by Saskatchewan.

DeAngelis kicked the ball on a kickoff. Owens let the ball bounce out of bounds but before it does, Butler from Saskatchewan came in barging and trying to get the ball. The question is how is legal for Butler to touch the ball? Was DeAngelis kick less than 10 yards or I don't know what the heck is going on..

I haven't seen the play but it sounds like you are talking about a kickoff. On a kickoff, If the ball travels more than 10 yards it is a live ball as everyone on the kicking team is behind the kicker. They have as much a right to it as the receiving team.

On any kick if you are behind the kicker at the time of the kick you are eligible to recover the ball

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by OzSome

Okay, i thought I knew all or maybe most of the CFL ruling but now I puzzled with this special team play by Saskatchewan.

DeAngelis kicked the ball on a kickoff. Owens let the ball bounce out of bounds but before it does, Butler from Saskatchewan came in barging and trying to get the ball. The question is how is legal for Butler to touch the ball? Was DeAngelis kick less than 10 yards or I don't know what the heck is going on..

The Sask. player went out of bounds diving for the ball and didnt touch it until he had left the field of play, making him ineligible to be the first guy to touch it....therefore the ball is immediately given to the Argos as once he touched the ball illegally, the play is dead.

[OzSome]

Originally Posted by M*A*S*H 4077

I haven't seen the play but it sounds like you are talking about a kickoff. On a kickoff, If the ball travels more than 10 yards it is a live ball as everyone on the kicking team is behind the kicker. They have as much a right to it as the receiving team.

On any kick if you are behind the kicker at the time of the kick you are eligible to recover the ball

Yes I know some guy can go behind the kicker and he will be allowed to go after the ball the way kicker does. Not sure if Butler was positioned behind DeAngelis though because Suitor and Cutthbert never mentioned it. That's why i was so confused.

Originally Posted by transplant99

The Sask. player went out of bounds diving for the ball and didnt touch it until he had left the field of play, making him ineligible to be the first guy to touch it....therefore the ball is immediately given to the Argos as once he touched the ball illegally, the play is dead.

I saw that one too. But i was wondering is if he touched the ball before it goes out of bound, why is it a legal play? I have the same idea as MASH that maybe he was behind the kicker but like I said the commentators never mentioned anything about it. I figured that might be the case because i think the ball travelled over 10 yards so it is not considered an onside kick.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by transplant99

The Sask. player went out of bounds diving for the ball and didnt touch it until he had left the field of play, making him ineligible to be the first guy to touch it....therefore the ball is immediately given to the Argos as once he touched the ball illegally, the play is dead.

Not quite. His first touch was legal.

Originally Posted by OzSome

I saw that one too. But i was wondering is if he touched the ball before it goes out of bound, why is it a legal play? I have the same idea as MASH that maybe he was behind the kicker but like I said the commentators never mentioned anything about it. I figured that might be the case because i think the ball travelled over 10 yards so it is not considered an onside kick.

Ok so it was on a kickoff and Butler was eligible to pick up the ball because, as has been mentioned, it is a live ball as long as it travels 10 yards and the player was onside at the time of the kick.

What happened is Butler clearly got there first but after he touched the ball he fell out of bounds. Although he touched it, he didn't have possession of the ball when he fell out of bounds and the ball remained on the field of play. After he fell out of bounds and after he'd already touched the ball, Butler proceeded to ever so slightly push (or kick) the ball out of bounds with his leg/foot.

This was illegal because the second he landed out of bounds (when he originally touched the ball it was legal as he was inbounds) he's no longer eligible to touch the ball. Also, his nudge to the ball, while out of bounds, looked almost like a kick. That would be illegal as well.


In hindsight it isn't a big deal and it was hard to tell if the ball was just going to sit there and be recovered by the Argos, whether it was going to roll out of bounds or if another Rider would have gotten the ball. Such a quick decision I don't really blame him.