We shall see if the "Rock Star" menatality takes over voters in Canada like it has in the States.
Well, that really depends on wht you consider the "Rock Star" menatality. If by that terminology you mean leader-driven (as opposed to candidate, platform, or party driven) campaigns then I would argue that it already has (and has been since Trudeau Sr. with very brief interruptions by Clark and Turner... AKA the Losers). Basically since the ascedence of television as the primary medium of political communication.
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ut there is little meat on the Trudeau leadership bones. What can really be taken away from this poll is just how soft that Conservative and NDP support really is. The Tories don't lose as many votes as the NDP, but about 10% of their supporters are quick to jump ship, suggesting that a good portion of the Conservative voting block is looking for a more moderate option that isn't the NDP. They especially take a hit in Atlantic Canada and British Columbia.
More significantly, the NDP loses one-third of its supporters in the blink of an eye, particularly in Ontario and Quebec. That is hugely problematic, as it suggests that much of their new-found support is based entirely on the party being the more plausible alternative to the Conservatives. With a hypothetical Trudeau leadership, the NDP is pushed back to its pre-2011 levels. It should not be that easy.
That's only considering initial impressions though, isnt it?
For example, when Barb Higgins was running for Mayor, she had lots of support early on, but it fell as people realized what she brought to the table.
He would need to have a lot more than his image to carry those numbers through an election.
Yes, but at this point I don't think there are any other impressions of Justin out there. Of course, it's a huge swing one way and everyone looks good at the onset (just look at Rick Perry's political rise and fall in the states).
Either way, interesting numbers, but I think the "soft" support for both the NDP and Conservatives is the real key take away here.
What can really be taken away from this poll is just how soft that Conservative and NDP support really is. The Tories don't lose as many votes as the NDP, but about 10% of their supporters are quick to jump ship, suggesting that a good portion of the Conservative voting block is looking for a more moderate option that isn't the NDP.
Or 10% of conservative voters like the idea of going against Trudeau in the next election and want to encourage him to run. These polls are really meaningless until he is elected leader and has a chance to put forward his position on the issues.
Polls at this stage of the game are utterly meaningless. The next election won't be till 2015.
You may as well try to predict the price of orange juice futures three years from now.
All polls do, at this moment in time, is ask people their opinion about something or somebody that they probably know very little about.
You would probably get the same results if you changed Justin Trudeau's name for Jarome Iginla's. We know just about as much about Jarome's politics as we do Justin's.
Polls at this stage of the game are utterly meaningless. The next election won't be till 2015.
You may as well try to predict the price of orange juice futures three years from now.
All polls do, at this moment in time, is ask people their opinion about something or somebody that they probably know very little about.
You would probably get the same results if you changed Justin Trudeau's name for Jarome Iginla's. We know just about as much about Jarome's politics as we do Justin's.
Really? OK, so what party does Jarome support? As far I know that would be a complete guess, where I'm certain that Trudeau is a Liberal.
While I still don't know where Justin stands on actual issues, I'm glad the Liberal Party can get at least some media attention. Even at their worst they are still a better party than the NDP as the official opposition or party in charge.
Trudeau is campaigning in Calgary, which is a lost cause for the Liberals in general. This attitude in this quote explains why:
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"The NEP has taken on an iconic status that it doesn't deserve," Blakeman told The Canadian Press. "Most people in Alberta today don't even know what it was. They couldn't tell you what the three initials stood for.
"But it is representative of things that they're unhappy with -- other people trying to take what they believe is theirs."
Why would we want to share anyways? I mean it's ours damn it, Alberta first, Canada second!
YeeHaw!!!!
If we're going to share, I'd rather pay for basic necessities of life and primary education in the 3rd world than cheap daycare and post secondary tuition for Quebecois. But equalization is in the constitution also, so fine. But when we start hearing discussions about a "National Energy Strategy" and BC talking about a new financial framework, I get concerned.
If we're going to share, I'd rather pay for basic necessities of life and primary education in the 3rd world than cheap daycare and post secondary tuition for Quebecois. But equalization is in the constitution also, so fine. But when we start hearing discussions about a "National Energy Strategy" and BC talking about a new financial framework, I get concerned.
Yes, if we're going to share lets send the money out of Canada to other countries? A borderline treasonous statement right there.
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If we're going to share, I'd rather pay for basic necessities of life and primary education in the 3rd world than cheap daycare and post secondary tuition for Quebecois. But equalization is in the constitution also, so fine. But when we start hearing discussions about a "National Energy Strategy" and BC talking about a new financial framework, I get concerned.
I don't think the NEP was a good strategy, but Canada (and the world) was in a bad place at the time. There was a real crisis and hence Trudeau made a drastic measure. But let's be real here... it's not like Alberta was Liberal friendly before that either. People act like Trudeau and the NEP are why Alberta doesn't vote Liberal, when it was ingrained in the culture before that.
It's also worth pointing out that a lot of the damage on Alberta was self-inflicted. The province rebeled against the NEP and cut production out of spite. The politicians took their ball and went home with it. A lot of the people who lost out financially in Alberta had their own leadership to blame.
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Why would we want to share anyways? I mean it's ours damn it, Alberta first, Canada second!
We share our money, Quebec shares its strippers, poutine and deli sandwiches. I'm down with that.
How does Trudeau stand on a culture exchange program with Montreal where we send them Rob Anders and they send us all the Jacquelines, Moniques and Giselles we can accommodate? We'll call it the "National Hottie Policy", or NHP, and then the NEP will finally lie quiet in its grave.
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Don't think you might be going a bit far with "treasonous"?
So giving money to other countries rather than Canadians outside this province is what exactly? If you hate the rest of Canada outside Alberta, again, not sure what else you'd call it. It's the same for Quebecers who hate the rest of Canada. We are Canadians first and foremost, not Albertans first and foremost. If people here want to seperate to keep the oil to themselves by all means go for it. But choosing to assist others outside our own country rather than assisting people in our own country...not sure what else I'd describe it as.
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Yes, if we're going to share lets send the money out of Canada to other countries? A borderline treasonous statement right there.
I send money to the Red Cross for famine relief. Should I put my hands behind my back or just prepare for summary execution?
I'd rather support actual poor people than entitlement programs I don't believe in or benefit from. You might disagree with me, but the opinion certainly isn't treasonous.
