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				I went to the big temple in Salt Lake City, and us non-Mormon folk were only allowed in certain areas of the temple, so I assume it's something similar. Incredible building though. 
 
  
			
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Since the building hasn't been dedicated yet, anyone who attends the tours should be free to see the whole building.  Once the dedication takes place the building (except for the reception area and visitors centre, if there is one - I know there is in Cardston) is closed to everyone except worthy members of the LDS church.  These buildings really are beautiful - anyone who has an appreciation for architecture or craftsmanship really should attend.  Also provides a rare opportunity for anyone who isn't Mormon to gain some insight into what the religion believes - especially some of the "weirder" aspects that generally are much more private.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-26-2012, 04:28 PM
			
			
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			I hope to tour it wearing nothing but golden speedos, a white short-sleeved dress shirt, and a backpack.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-26-2012, 04:29 PM
			
			
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				I think tithing (generice term) is common in most western religions. 
			
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			09-26-2012, 04:30 PM
			
			
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whoosh, please explain?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-26-2012, 04:30 PM
			
			
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				whoosh, please explain? 
			
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Giving up 30% of your income for religion.
 
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			09-26-2012, 04:31 PM
			
			
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				Giving up 30% of your income for religion. 
			
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It's 10% (gross income).
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-26-2012, 04:35 PM
			
			
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				Giving up 30% of your income for religion. 
  
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I don't think you can write it off, but not sure.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-26-2012, 04:37 PM
			
			
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			^^^ religions spouting from the Jesus movement use the 10% from old testament writings as a guide. it is symbolic for not being controlled by money, by giving some of it up, you show God that you aren't making money an idol (at least symbolically). of course the church has to pay its staff and bills too (and much of it goes to missionaries and charities and outreach etc depending on the church).  
  
A person is supposed to give willingly, not forced to give a certain amount. God asks for a cheerful giver (which can be difficult) 
  
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			09-26-2012, 04:41 PM
			
			
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			Public tours before the actual opening are common practice for new Mormon temples.   
 
What they don't tell you is that the "consecrated for the spiritual sanctification" involves ripping out most of the interior, and redoing it.  The reasoning is that the stuff can't be made holy again once the public has been inside. 
 
That's why the public isn't allowed in afterwards, because it would get to be expensive to redo the interior every time. 
 
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			09-26-2012, 04:43 PM
			
			
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				It's 10% (gross income). 
			
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And once again tithing is 10% off the top. That’s gross income, not net. Please people, don’t force us to audit. Now I’m going to pass this around a second time.
 
  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			09-26-2012, 04:43 PM
			
			
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				What they don't tell you is that the "consecrated for the spiritual sanctification" involves ripping out most of the interior, and redoing it. The reasoning is that the stuff can't be made holy again once the public has been inside. 
  
That's why the public isn't allowed in afterwards, because it would get to be expensive to redo the interior every time. 
			
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Sorry but this sounds a bit over the top even for a church.  Do you have a source?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Yes, 10% of gross and they receive charitable donations receipts for the tax credit. 
 
And, just to stir ye 'ol pot a little I shall share one of my pet peeves as a tax accountant: 
 
The Government subsidizes people's contributions to a non-taxable entity via tax credits. Literally taking it from both sides. Nice.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-26-2012, 04:49 PM
			
			
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				Sorry but this sounds a bit over the top even for a church.  Do you have a source? 
			
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If he has a legit source for that, I will eat his pubes.
 
A  quick check on Google shows that it is open for tours until Oct 20, and then being dedicated 8 days later on Oct 28th.
 
Obviously don't know what is inside there, but no way it is being rebuilt in 8 days...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-26-2012, 04:50 PM
			
			
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			09-26-2012, 04:53 PM
			
			
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			Toxx clause! This thread could get real interesting... 
 
As Muta suggested anyone that is a geek or interested in architecture should check this out. Definitely why I'm going.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-26-2012, 04:58 PM
			
			
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			I work with the company that did the HVAC ductwork at LDS Temple. There is no way they are re-doing everything inside. The last time I voted in an election, was at the mormon church in Cranston...and I'm not a mormon either. 
 
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			I’ve been in a Mormon Temple once when my parents has their temple wedding. I don’t remember much about the experience expect that we had this all white one piece robe we had to wear, and the room where the actual ceremony took place had huge mirrors for the walls that reflected off of each other to represent eternity. 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				I have heard it looks amazing at night since they turned the lights on. Pretty much no chance me being near there when it is dark though, seeing as it is at the complete opposite end of town from me. 
  
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Yeah Crowchild just after the Stoney interchange but before 12 mile. For a major road. 
  
Obviously if you take a 2 minute trip into Royal Oak/Rocky Ridge there you can get nice and close.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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