Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > The Off Topic Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-24-2012, 11:26 AM   #1
photon
The new goggles also do nothing.
 
photon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default Cool product instead of concrete for posts

Building a small deck and put in the posts yesterday, decided to try this stuff I've seen at Totem and Timbertown:

http://www.chemque.com/pages.php?page=Fast_2K



Seem to work awesome! Saves a ton of time and even more effort; didn't have to carry a whole bunch of bags of concrete down, mix it, etc.

Very easy to work with, gets firm in a few minutes. Had six holes, each about 3-4' deep, 9" diameter, and with the 4x4 post I used 8 bags, 1 bag each and then 1 bag to top up 3 holes.

Only downside is cost, they're $17 each or something like that. Probably makes money if you're a professional since you can do more in less time, more expensive for a DYI though.

The guy I had dig the holes said he's heard of only one bad story; one guy doing a fence put down the cardboard tubes first but didn't backfill around the tubes very well, and of course the foam stuff doesn't weigh hardly anything, so the fence blew over in a wind, pulled the sonotubes and everything right out.

Anyway just wanted to share a product that was new to me that I really liked, saved a ton of time and effort.
__________________
Uncertainty is an uncomfortable position.
But certainty is an absurd one.
photon is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to photon For This Useful Post:
Old 09-24-2012, 11:38 AM   #2
Knalus
Powerplay Quarterback
 
Knalus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

That seems especially useful for small numbers of posts, so you don't have to set up the wheelbarrow for mixing cement, and the one time cost of $17 isn't multiplied too frequently.
Knalus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 11:39 AM   #3
MrMastodonFarm
Lifetime Suspension
 
MrMastodonFarm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Exp:
Default

Mixing cement is fun though...
MrMastodonFarm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 11:52 AM   #4
Bigtime
Franchise Player
 
Bigtime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

I have been blown away by how entrancing this product is to our customers, I'm hoping to see a version that is rated structurally (for decks) by next season.

Cost wise it is $1.65 more than 2 bags of fast set concrete. We are recommending one bag per post hole, and 2 bags on corner posts and gate posts.
Bigtime is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Bigtime For This Useful Post:
Old 09-24-2012, 12:00 PM   #5
Sliver
evil of fart
 
Sliver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigtime View Post
I have been blown away by how entrancing this product is to our customers, I'm hoping to see a version that is rated structurally (for decks) by next season.

Cost wise it is $1.65 more than 2 bags of fast set concrete. We are recommending one bag per post hole, and 2 bags on corner posts and gate posts.
So we shouldn't use the current product on decks? I have a small deck I want to build that would probably require three or four posts and this looks perfect. Not a good idea?
Sliver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 12:02 PM   #6
photon
The new goggles also do nothing.
 
photon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigtime View Post
I have been blown away by how entrancing this product is to our customers, I'm hoping to see a version that is rated structurally (for decks) by next season.
Yeah our deck was so small and is ground level so I didn't think it would be an issue.

It's funny, I think I was more enthusiastic about trying this foam stuff than I am about a new gadget, and I really have no idea why.

I guess it's just fun to play with something totally new.
__________________
Uncertainty is an uncomfortable position.
But certainty is an absurd one.
photon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 12:50 PM   #7
Bigtime
Franchise Player
 
Bigtime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

All we know is right now it is just for fences due to it not being rated structurally yet.
Bigtime is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 01:02 PM   #8
Canehdianman
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

I was mesmerized by the video every time I walked into Timbertown while buying supplies to build my deck this summer.
Canehdianman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 01:02 PM   #9
TheGrimm
Scoring Winger
 
TheGrimm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: In a van down by the river
Exp:
Default

Looks sweet, but I'd be concerned about the strength as I am sure it's not very dense.
TheGrimm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 01:04 PM   #10
Bigtime
Franchise Player
 
Bigtime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGrimm View Post
Looks sweet, but I'd be concerned about the strength as I am sure it's not very dense.
We were told this product has been used for hydro poles out east for a few years with no issues. Can anybody confirm this?
Bigtime is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 01:04 PM   #11
Kybosh
#1 Goaltender
 
Kybosh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: An all-inclusive.
Exp:
Default

I've always just mixed the cement in the post hole with a garden hose and heavy metal poker. Is this easier than that?
Kybosh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 01:15 PM   #12
Bigtime
Franchise Player
 
Bigtime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kybosh View Post
I've always just mixed the cement in the post hole with a garden hose and heavy metal poker. Is this easier than that?
Yes, a little 3 pound bag, break the middle seal and mix the contents together, pour into post hole. Marvel at the amazing future in which we live.
Bigtime is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 01:17 PM   #13
photon
The new goggles also do nothing.
 
photon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Don't mock the foam post hole stuff!
__________________
Uncertainty is an uncomfortable position.
But certainty is an absurd one.
photon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 01:22 PM   #14
TheGrimm
Scoring Winger
 
TheGrimm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: In a van down by the river
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by photon View Post
Don't mock the foam post hole stuff!

I just did 17 post holes last month putting in my deck, a part of me hopes this can't be used for decks, just to be able to sleep peacefully. I just rented a portable cement mixer, would never do more than a few post holes without it.
TheGrimm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2012, 09:53 PM   #15
speede5
First Line Centre
 
speede5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Exp:
Default

How dense is once it's set up? It looks like something a friend used to patch a hole in his basement floor, although it expands way more. As long as the hole is filled, and the product is non-permeable I can't see any reason this wouldn't work, although the weight of concrete adds an anchoring factor which this product wouldn't have. I'd like to try and pull one of those posts to see how sturdy it is before I get all gung ho.
speede5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2012, 10:24 AM   #16
kevman
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Exp:
Default

Speaking of concrete, has anyone ever used this service?

http://www.u-cart.ca/

I only need about a 1/4 yard for some deck footings but it looks like a great way to save some time and effort...
kevman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2012, 04:28 PM   #17
handgroen
First Line Centre
 
handgroen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Exp:
Default

Just built my fence and used this stuff and would never use it again.dug 4 foot deep holes and poured this stuff and the next day after 24hrs i could still push my finger a few inches into it. it's basically like spray foam insulation. used it for half my posts then switched to concrete and poured concrete over the "other product" and the foam crap posts feel much less stable than the concrete ones. just too good to be true i'm afraid.
__________________


is your cat doing singing?
handgroen is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:03 PM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy