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Old 09-21-2012, 11:51 AM   #181
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^Heh, no wonder it's collecting dust then. The thing is what, almost three years old compared to something that was just released?

Joking aside, I'm somewhat curious about the comfort/usage of a smaller tablet myself.
To be fair I used my brothers Ipad 2 once I cracked mine... but technically I didn't own it and it was more a shared resource. He might not agree with that assessment

Nexus 7 is pretty comfortable to hold and use. Just buy one and use it for a day or two to figure out if you want to keep it or not.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:49 PM   #182
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I could see myself getting an iPad mini possibly, I love the Nexus 7 and the interface I think is a lot more sophisticated, but it's the form factor that is the major reason that I really like it.
As I've said earlier, I loved the form factor of the Nexus 7, unfortunately the apps just are nowhere near as refined as the iOS ones. I had a hard enough time just simply finding a decent Exchange integration, never mind anything else that would fit into my daily workflow.

The form factor is great. I mocked the idea of a small tablet, but after getting my hands on the Nexus 7, I realized how great it was. I'll just have to wait for the iPad mini though. It's really weird how there doesn't seem to be the same quality and type of apps in the Android Market as there is in the App Store. They're just written in Java, and you can write Java code on anything these days. It's not like the Apple apps, that are written in Objective-C and require a Mac to really do a good job.

Even big name apps like Skype look and run better, and include more features in iOS than they do in Android. Hell, even Google Chrome runs better in iOS - and that's makes NO sense to me at all.

Anyway, I still have my Transformer TF300T which I use quite often. I just use it for web browsing and basic email functions and watching videos though. Oh and ROMming. Experimenting with new ROMs is really the most entertaining part of having an Android device.
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:04 PM   #183
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What do you mean here, 3D mapping has been around on mobile devices since 2009?
Actually I was just referring to starting a 3d mapping service at all, but I guess since Google Earth for Android did come out around January of 2010, I wasn't that far off. The original Motorola Droid (Milestone for you guys) was the flagship device for Android 2.0, which was the first version to include the free turn-by-turn directions. It was released in October of 2009. So yeah, Apple is trying to catch up on Google's 3 year lead on this stuff. Good luck.
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:15 PM   #184
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Actually I was just referring to starting a 3d mapping service at all, but I guess since Google Earth for Android did come out around January of 2010, I wasn't that far off. The original Motorola Droid (Milestone for you guys) was the flagship device for Android 2.0, which was the first version to include the free turn-by-turn directions. It was released in October of 2009. So yeah, Apple is trying to catch up on Google's 3 year lead on this stuff. Good luck.
If you count how long Google's maps have actually been around the service was launched February 2005, so from a tagging/maturity standpoint... it's closer to 8 years of maps and tagging that are missing from Apple maps.

Google actually started off with the TomTom or Navteq maps back then, after awhile they found a lot of those were insufficient and started collecting their own. Anyone think we'll be seeing Apple streetview cars any time soon or is Apple going to just shamelessly copy to catch up?
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:28 PM   #185
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Hopefully Google sues Apple if they attempt streetview cars.
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Instead they could just pull a Microsoft and copy their actual map search results.
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Old 09-21-2012, 07:19 PM   #187
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I know it's a phone thread but just upgraded to iOS 6 on the iPad and I feel so disappointed and angry! They took out Youtube and Google maps, the 2 features I used the most.
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Old 09-21-2012, 07:28 PM   #188
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I know it's a phone thread but just upgraded to iOS 6 on the iPad and I feel so disappointed and angry! They took out Youtube and Google maps, the 2 features I used the most.
There's a Youtube app by Google in the app store, but I'm regretting updating to iOS 6 so quickly solely because of the maps app.
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Old 09-21-2012, 07:33 PM   #189
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There's a Youtube app by Google in the app store, but I'm regretting updating to iOS 6 so quickly solely because of the maps app.
The YouTube app is for iPhone even though its compatible with iPad I much rather have the original back. Also, there's no sound on any of my gaming apps. Keeps getting better
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well so much for the Apple "well it just works" arguments
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It has always just worked till now. Apple doesn't always screw up like this.

Its their arrogance starting to create a problem.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:54 PM   #192
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I know it's a phone thread but just upgraded to iOS 6 on the iPad and I feel so disappointed and angry! They took out Youtube and Google maps, the 2 features I used the most.
Didn't you do your research? They didn't just surprise people with taking those things out.

You should be angry at yourself.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:57 PM   #193
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Didn't you do your research? They didn't just surprise people with taking those things out.

You should be angry at yourself.
No, I don't sit all day researching what Apple is going to do next. I trusted them to not screw up or at least replace the features with something similar.
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Old 09-22-2012, 07:54 AM   #194
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It has always just worked till now. Apple doesn't always screw up like this.

Its their arrogance starting to create a problem.
Agreed, but Apple Fanboy will forget about it quickly and the myth will survive.

Remember the iPhone 4 "You're not holding it correctly" fiasco?

Just buy some APPL and let the cult make you rich.
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Old 09-22-2012, 08:14 AM   #195
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It has always just worked till now. Apple doesn't always screw up like this.

Its their arrogance starting to create a problem.
You know, your free ride on the Apple arrogance train needs to stop.

This company has reinvented two cornerstone industries (and figured out a way to make a third category profitable in tablets), what exactly are they arrogant about? Success? Jobs always thought he knew better than the average consumer about what they want. Nothing has changed - The difference now is that people expect them to reinvent an industry every quarter. Apple has had their shares of bad ideas too, they've never claimed they're perfect - That image is created by people like yourself that use it to build an argument. You'll hear them say 'It's the best phone we've ever made' - Which is about as textbook an example as you can find of marketing. Meanwhile Samsung is touting themselves as revolutionary because the screen is bigger... And it's all hail Android.

When Google introduced their maps, it was full of bugs and holes, it's now an amazing piece of software that soon will be available in the App Store, just like 100,000's of other apps. Apple decided they want to give their users a different experience with maps, and make it in-house... What's wrong with that?

It's nothing short of comical how quickly people love to jump on a successful company and champion a problem as if they themselves are winning because of it.

This ad is a perfect example of Apple thinking they know better. They've always left it up to the consumer to decide.


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Old 09-22-2012, 08:56 AM   #196
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Google Maps wasn't force on anyone like Apple Maps is. I would think that difference is pretty obvious.

Yes we know it will take 10 years for Apple to even come close to having the same Maps product as Google. That is exactly the point.
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Old 09-22-2012, 11:05 AM   #198
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Google Maps was an undeleteable app on previous versions of iOS until this one. I'd say it was forced on people just like Apple Maps.

It's unfortunate that we've had to take a step back in terms of accuracy but I can wait for Google Maps to be released for iPhone and keep my complaining to a minimum.
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Old 09-22-2012, 11:15 AM   #199
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Google Maps was an undeleteable app on previous versions of iOS until this one. I'd say it was forced on people just like Apple Maps.

It's unfortunate that we've had to take a step back in terms of accuracy but I can wait for Google Maps to be released for iPhone and keep my complaining to a minimum.
Even IF Google maps is released on iOS, you'll be sure that there will be no way that Apple would allow it to be set as the default map application. Really breaks the idea of a unified and functional phone experience when you have an app you don't want to use that you'll be forced to link into. Looking up a restaurant? Opens Apple maps. I wonder if Steve Jobs would have made this decision if he were still around. He was always about getting his best vision of experience on these products.
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Google Maps was an undeleteable app on previous versions of iOS until this one. I'd say it was forced on people just like Apple Maps.
By Apple, not Google.
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