Boardwalk Empire-The Show to Watch This Fall

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by North East Goon

Two-Face is going to want a shot at Nucky now. I thought it was a great ending. I cant remember was Darmody or Eli behind the order to shoot Nucky?

definitely Eli. Darmody didn't want to kill Nucky as he preferred other ways of dealing with him, but Eli pushed the group in that direction

[Coys1882]

It was Eli's idea and Capone and Lucky both kind of convinced Jimmy to do it. I think Jimmy didn't like it but didn't want to appear weak so he went ahead with it.

[Chump]

Originally Posted by North East Goon

Two-Face is going to want a shot at Nucky now. I thought it was a great ending. I cant remember was Darmody or Eli behind the order to shoot Nucky?

Jimmy didn't want to do it but Eli, Capone and Luciano pressured him and he consented. Capone then hired some guy from Chicago to do it. Eli was the guy that suggested it but Jimmy had the final say so really they were both behind it.

[jroc]

Another refresher question here.
Why did Jimmy and his buddys arrange to have the butcher from Philly killed? I totally forget.

[Coys1882]

Originally Posted by jroc

Another refresher question here.
Why did Jimmy and his buddys arrange to have the butcher from Philly killed? I totally forget.

I think it was because they owed him money they couldn't pay back. Or didn't intend to.

[BlackEleven]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

I think it was because they owed him money they couldn't pay back. Or didn't intend to.

That was part of it. They also wanted to go into business with Waxy Gordon, who wanted the butcher dead.

[Winsor_Pilates]

After thinking about that episode way too much; 1 thing really isn't adding up for me.

Jimmy seemed to know he wasn't going to get Nucky's forgiveness and even showed up without any weapons expecting to get off'd.
So, I don't get why he bothered killing Neary and helping out Nucky's case. Even at that point he should have known Nucky wasn't gonna let him go, so why help Nucky get off his charges?

It's like the threw in the towel and handed Nucky his freedom, knowing he would kill him.

[cheevers]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

After thinking about that episode way too much; 1 thing really isn't adding up for me.

Jimmy seemed to know he wasn't going to get Nucky's forgiveness and even showed up without any weapons expecting to get off'd.
So, I don't get why he bothered killing Neary and helping out Nucky's case. Even at that point he should have known Nucky wasn't gonna let him go, so why help Nucky get off his charges?

It's like the threw in the towel and handed Nucky his freedom, knowing he would kill him.

It was because Jimmy wanted to set things right with Nucky. When they met up at Jimmy's house he asked what he could do to make up for the attempted assasination. Jimmy always viewed Nucky as a father figure to him since the commodore was a terrible father. I think he just felt bad for what happened and accepted his fate.

And I think that this was almost a mercy killing, Jimmy said before he died that he had already died in the trench. Also when Richard was talking about still being in the trenches to Jimmy just before he leaves to his execution, Jimmy says something to the effect of "comeback to here", I think it was his way of saying it was too late for him but Richard should keep living.

On another note I expect Richard to kick ass next season and be a big time player.

[Knut]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

After thinking about that episode way too much; 1 thing really isn't adding up for me.

Jimmy seemed to know he wasn't going to get Nucky's forgiveness and even showed up without any weapons expecting to get off'd.
So, I don't get why he bothered killing Neary and helping out Nucky's case. Even at that point he should have known Nucky wasn't gonna let him go, so why help Nucky get off his charges?

It's like the threw in the towel and handed Nucky his freedom, knowing he would kill him.

I think he got him off more so out of respect for his old Mentor.

[cheevers]

An interview with Terrence Winter:

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-al...rtems-season-2

Definite spoilers if you have yet to see all of Season 2. Has some great stuff about the season and where he expects it to go in Season 3. Can't wait!

[Winsor_Pilates]

Nice interview; particularly like the part at the end referencing actual history and painting a picture where there were many Jimmy Darmodys.

"That's the thing: for every Luciano and Lansky, there are thousands of Jimmy Darmodys who are footnotes in history - these guys who made a run at it, didn't make it and died trying. That's sort of the point. In our big sweeping crime story, it's why isn't Jimmy Darmody in the history books? Well, A)because he's a fictional character, but B)not everybody became Al Capone. Only one person became Al Capone, and there are hundreds or thousands of people who wanted to be and tried, these low-level alcohol/drug dealers who were never able to get their act together in the way that those guys did."

[Stranger]

Originally Posted by cheevers

It was because Jimmy wanted to set things right with Nucky. When they met up at Jimmy's house he asked what he could do to make up for the attempted assasination. Jimmy always viewed Nucky as a father figure to him since the commodore was a terrible father. I think he just felt bad for what happened and accepted his fate.

And I think that this was almost a mercy killing, Jimmy said before he died that he had already died in the trench. Also when Richard was talking about still being in the trenches to Jimmy just before he leaves to his execution, Jimmy says something to the effect of "comeback to here", I think it was his way of saying it was too late for him but Richard should keep living.

On another note I expect Richard to kick ass next season and be a big time player.

Terence Winter said when asked if Harrow would be back next season:


"And I’m assuming Richard Harrow will continue as a key player?"
"Yes, Harrow will continue to be part of the show, absolutely."

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/12/11/bo...empire-finale/

[Pizza]

if the writers were going to piss off the fans with killing off Jimmy, they should've went all the way and kill Jimmy in mid sentence so he never gets to fully say what he wanted to tell Nucky

[Winsor_Pilates]

darn thread bumps with no updates!! (shakes old man fist)

[Knut]

It's back !!

Tonight @ 9pm (37mins)

[Winsor_Pilates]

Someone didn't last long...

[North East Goon]

It certainly looks like it's going to get much more violent in Atlantic City. As long as they dont skimp on showing us 1920's boobs, all is well.

[Knut]

I am also thinking that there is going to be a big Gang War in Chicago between O'Banion and Torrio/Capone. Van Alden looks like he is going to be in the thick of things.

[jroc]

So did the butcher get whacked because he didn't kill the other thief by the end of the day? or was there another reason behind it?

[Komskies]

Originally Posted by jroc

So did the butcher get whacked because he didn't kill the other thief by the end of the day? or was there another reason behind it?

Spoiler!

It was Richard Harrow who killed Manny Horowitz. I'm guessing it was simply as revenge for killing Angela Darmody.