New iPhone/iPhone5/iPhone 2012 Thread

[burn_this_city]

I'd say he probably downplayed his usage time to help his sale, that seems more logical than anything.

One thing I have noticed lately is the Android boosters seem to be more insufferable than the old Apple fan boys. Just browse through the S3 thread and compare it to this one, the fandroid jihad is getting ridiculous. It's ok that not everyone likes the same things and some people are resistant to changing ecosystems, especially when they've likely invested a great deal of money into apps ect.

This iPhone announcement today was somewhat of a letdown, but I think the expectations on innovation are out stripping how much further they can push mobile devices with current technology. Until flexible touchscreen technology or some other magic comes along we'll likely see a few years of incremental improvements but nothing that is truly groundbreaking.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Would this phone be an upgrade on a Bold 9700?

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

Would this phone be an upgrade on a Bold 9700?

Yes.

[browna]

Good to see the Nano return to the proper size and form factor and physical button returning.

A big update to the Touch...returning it to the days of being almost an Iphone without a cellular radio, unlike the last few models which gave you the sense Apple didn't want to cannibalize Iphone sales by making the Touch a POS.

With the same screen as the new Iphone, the processor from the current Iphone, almost the same cameras as the new Iphone, front and back that can now do 1080 and 720 video, and ultra thin, it may be a legit viable alternative to those who have wifi most of the time ( as opposed to even 4 years ago) and still have a basic cell phone for calls...or have something like a work Blackberry, and when not in a wifi zone can now create a wifi hotspot from the BB, and thus can get the IOs features (outside of calls and sms text messages) without getting an Iphone.

[OldDutch]

I am strongly learning to getting this. I would buy an unlocked though, so I can sell it at any time if Android finally gets a Retina level display. That is a big sell point for me, and something Samsung has come close but not matched yet.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/12/i...etition-fight/

I always wondered why there are no true Retina level phones for Android. I recently read that it was because of the fragmented nature of Android that it would be major overhead to also add Retina support for a few models. That is what you are seeing a Win 8 phone get it first.

Anyways, iPhone may not be the gadget king, but I use my iPhone mostly for reading web pages, and email. That alone is a reason I won't switch yet. I may entertain Nokia Win 8 phone, but for sure not a Android.

Also, this whole walled garden is BS. You can jailbreak your iPhone, and I haven't heard of one hack that I would want on Android, that my jail broken iPhone can't do.

Both OS are great, but for now, there is no reason for me to switch to a "mighty" S3.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Yes.

Yeah I wasn't serious at all truth be told. I am just running out the contract with Bell and have no intention of signing up for another three years and it isn't worth the 100 dollar cancellation fee to get out of the contract that ends in December.

[Hemi-Cuda]

a not-so-kind review of the iPhone 5 (and Apple as a whole):

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19557497

To use a car analogy, six years ago the iPhone was like a sexy new flagship model from BMW or Porsche. Today it's a Toyota Camry. Safe, reliable, boring. The car your mom drives. The car that's so popular that its maker doesn't dare mess with the formula.

[Jbo]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

a not-so-kind review of the iPhone 5 (and Apple as a whole):

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19557497

I have a couple problems with that article, but the point as a whole is noted.

I find TVs and smartphones are basically the same thing.

Look at how many different types of TVs there are on the market. You can get one of any size, clarity, 3D, Smart, Web enabled, resolution etc. Really though, you do not see any major innovation these days, just small upgrades. I prefer Samsung TVs to the competition, but truthfully, you could put 100 of similar models against each other and would be very difficult to notice the difference.

It seems that people expect Apple to revolutionize the industry every september, and that won't happen.

Short answer, both phones are comparable, so chose the one you are happy with. Listening to the Android Vs Apple banter feels like people are insulting religions here.

[sun]

Is there anything more annoying than the perpetual android vs apple debate? Android users are seemingly unwilling to accept that not everyone wants a phone that you can tinker with, that can look a hundred different ways, that can be customized, etc. I am not a tinkerer. I buy things that are good looking - I am willing to pay more for this privilege, and there is nothing wrong with that. Why should anyone else care? Apple has known how important this almost since its inception. Not working out too bad for them (yet, of course).

My phone integrates seamlessly with my computer, itunes, etc. It is 100% hassle-free and that is what is most important to me. Yes, half the reason I pay double for an iMac is because it looks cool on my desk. You caught me. I have never put a case on my phone because it looks awesome and cases are ugly.

A replaceable battery, a flip phone (holy lol), expandable memory, etc is NOT apple. It will never ever ever happen. If you wanted those things, than of course you were going to be disappointed. And you will be disappointed with the 5s, 6, 6s, 7, 7s, 8, 8s, so why bother getting worked up about it? Buy a samsung and be done with it.

I find the launch disappointing because I find the design a step back from the 4/4s aesthetically. Not because there wasn't a detachable battery.

I find the S3 ugly, ungainly, awkwardly large. I don't like having a million options to pick from. Android is not for me. The iphone is not for you. Can't we just be friends?

This is the first time I've ever weighed in on this debate and I'll probably regret it haha.

[sclitheroe]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

a not-so-kind review of the iPhone 5 (and Apple as a whole):

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19557497

I love when he calls Apple the Toyota instead of the Porsche.

Toyota has a market capitalization of 129 billion, to Porsche's 13 billion. I wonder which company Apple would rather be.

[sclitheroe]

Originally Posted by J-bo09

It seems that people expect Apple to revolutionize the industry every september, and that won't happen.

It's funny because it's never happened (well, it did, in this space, once, with the introduction of the iPhone). Every year its a steady incremental improvement. It always has been, on every product they make. It's the same story with the iPad - 3 versions in, and its really just a refined version of the iPad 1. The iPad mini will be a smaller version of what we already have yet again.

[Russic]

Originally Posted by Sliver

As for the Homer Simpson comment, as if anything I mentioned would have a negative affect on the usability of the phone, with the possible exception of the projector.

To Apple the size and feel is a huge part of the experience. So much so, many would claim their focus on the experience makes up a huge part of their brand identity. Almost everything you mentioned in your wish list would make the phone bigger and bulkier. While I totally understand that some people don't care about thin and light, but Apple cares more about it than almost every other feature. It's been like that since the 80's.

As mentioned before, you sound like someone who would adore an Android phone. I don't mean that as a subtle jab at all... your requests are just very un-apple.

[Yeah_Baby]

I have an iPhone 4. It's two years old, and much like my 3G after two years, it's starting to slow down. I'm thinking about getting the 5. I kind of hate how popular iPhones are nowadays, but I've been using one for four years. Its comfortable, so why switch?

[HotHotHeat]

I seriously can't believe how many people look at Apple products and go "I don't want it, it's too popular." FFS, it's a phone/iPod, not a way of life.

I'm never buying blue jeans again. So played out.

[polak]

Woah some of you are out of touch if you think Apple dominates the phone market... Android has had the majority of the smartphone market for over a year now and their share is only growing while Apple is losing some of it's share to Windows/Nokia.

Android currently at 68.1% market share:
http://blogs.computerworld.com/windo...-gain-traction

Apple is down to 16.9%

Also, in my opinion, Apple supporters are buying their phone ONLY because they are Iphones and they just want to say that they own an Iphone. That is it. The one defense you here from them is "I don't want android cause I'm not going to customize it"... Well thats great, don't customize it then. They're still cheaper then an Iphone and can do literally everything an Iphone does.

If Iphones were cheaper than that defense would make sense but since they're more expensive, it really doesn't hold any water. At least I see some people can admit it which I applaud. There is nothing really wrong with being a big fan of a brand. Tim Hortons coffee is sh**, but I still drink it over McDonalds for literally no reason.

[Regulator75]

Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

FFS, it's a phone/iPod, not a way of life.

Sadly it IS a way of life for most users.
iPhone
iPod
iPad
iMac
iTV (or whatever it's called)
iTunes
iBuyanything the iCult tells me too...

[Red]

Originally Posted by polak

Woah some of you are out of touch if you think Apple dominates the phone market... Android has had the majority of the smartphone market for over a year now and their share is only growing while Apple is losing some of it's share to Windows/Nokia.

Android currently at 68.1% market share:
http://blogs.computerworld.com/windo...-gain-traction

Apple is down to 16.9%

Also, in my opinion, Apple supporters are buying their phone ONLY because they are Iphones and they just want to say that they own an Iphone. That is it. The one defense you here from them is "I don't want android cause I'm not going to customize it"... Well thats great, don't customize it then. They're still cheaper then an Iphone and can do literally everything an Iphone does.

If Iphones were cheaper than that defense would make sense but since they're more expensive, it really doesn't hold any water. At least I see some people can admit it which I applaud. There is nothing really wrong with being a big fan of a brand. Tim Hortons coffee is sh**, but I still drink it over McDonalds for literally no reason.

Or maybe they are just customers that buy things from a company that has a long standing great reputation for building quality products?

Just like people buy BMWs over faster Cobalts, or Colgate over some generic brand toothpaste etc. And with the phone, the price is the same as any upscale android so it’s not like you have to pay a heavy price.

Just a matter of choice.

[Mazrim]

Judging by the gigantic cases people put on their iPhones, maybe sacrificing thinness and weight a little to make it sturdier isn't such a bad idea.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by sclitheroe

I love when he calls Apple the Toyota instead of the Porsche.

Toyota has a market capitalization of 129 billion, to Porsche's 13 billion. I wonder which company Apple would rather be.

um, Porche? Apple has always marketed their products as top-of-the-line, why do you think they have such a premium price markup on everything they sell? if Apple wanted to be like Toyota, they would release cheaper budget phones to capture more of the market. instead they've simply let their flagship product stagnate to the point where it's merely average now

[oilyfan]

Originally Posted by Regulator75

Sadly it IS a way of life for most users.
iPhone
iPod
iPad
iMac
iTV (or whatever it's called)
iTunes
iBuyanything the iCult tells me too...

This is such a ridiculous statement I don't even know where to start.