Dan put up Ian because it didn't matter who he put up. Joe was going home anyway. Same reason why he put up Danielle. He doesn't want to piss Jenn off because she thinks he is working with her, although after Frank left she has to know she is next (after Joe, so like this upcoming week now).
I was thinking Shane might have a chance to win, but his game has really gone down hill since he doesn't win competitions anymore. He really has no game.
So with Jenn going home (unless she wins veto), who betrays who in the quack pack? What an HoH next week!
Also, I hope they do another BB All Stars again, because Frank needs to come back. He may be a cocky dick, but he is a damn good competitor and really the only one this season (aside from the coaches and Ian), who have done anything big.
What was Dan thinking with his nominations? He was in a pretty good position but now it seems like he just got the whole house pissed at him again.
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I think his nominations would have been great in a normal week given time to explain to Ian and then Danielle why. With Ian he could have easily convinced him that he would be safe no matter what and it keeps the charade up that they are enemies, probably could have convinced Ian it was his idea just like the veto last week too . With Danielle much the same except, unlike Ian, she really did have nothing to worry about. In the meantime he gets out Joe, hurting Shane in the process without actually betraying him, and could have done damage control with Jenn on betraying Frank and probably could have got a final 2 aliance sealed from her as well.
Unfortunately, based solely on the end of the last episode (haven't seen the feeds), Danielle was too stupid to realize how safe of a pawn she actually was and looks like she is upset with Dan and Jenn somehow still hasn't figured out about the Quack Pack? If she had she should realize Dan went against them to keep her safe (obviously for his own intentions) but I don't think that's dawned on her yet.
with his latest HoH win Ian is now the all time consecutive wins (HoH-PoV-HoH-PoV-HoH) record holder beating out the previous record shared by Frank, Janelle and James
I hope they do another All-Stars next summer (no newbies, just vets) and bring back Ian. Then I want them to stop bringing back vets for a good long while.
Saw a tweet from someone last night who was at the live show, they did a clap poll on who the audiance wanted to win BB14... Dan & Ian: Loud Clapping, Frank/Joe/Danielle/Jenn/Shane: Crickets.
with his latest HoH win Ian is now the all time consecutive wins (HoH-PoV-HoH-PoV-HoH) record holder beating out the previous record shared by Frank, Janelle and James
I hope they do another All-Stars next summer (no newbies, just vets) and bring back Ian. Then I want them to stop bringing back vets for a good long while.
Saw a tweet from someone last night who was at the live show, they did a clap poll on who the audiance wanted to win BB14... Dan & Ian: Loud Clapping, Frank/Joe/Danielle/Jenn/Shane: Crickets.
I thought that Frank had quite the following, guess not.
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"Somebody may beat me, but they are going to have to bleed to do it."
-Steve Prefontaine
putting together a very strong competition resume the last few weeks, starting to think he may be the favorite at this point
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Ian is racking up vital wins that should help the jury votes asking "was the person I am voting for competitive in challenges column"
Ian should put up Dan and Shane, easily the most physical threats left to him in the house.
On a side note I am so happy that turd Joe finally got sent packing. He is a joke to actually believe "he survived" being on the block 3 times prior. He was never the most desired target, so full of himself.
with his latest HoH win Ian is now the all time consecutive wins (HoH-PoV-HoH-PoV-HoH) record holder beating out the previous record shared by Frank, Janelle and James
I hope they do another All-Stars next summer (no newbies, just vets) and bring back Ian. Then I want them to stop bringing back vets for a good long while.
Saw a tweet from someone last night who was at the live show, they did a clap poll on who the audiance wanted to win BB14... Dan & Ian: Loud Clapping, Frank/Joe/Danielle/Jenn/Shane: Crickets.
I wouldn't call a Tweet from some random person a reliable source. I could tweet ...When the studio audience was polled fan support was low for Frank so the producers asked us to stand and cheer really loudly for Frank.#Fake for Frank.
Time to get rid of Dan. Great player but not a great person (at least in the game). If I have to hear another lame footbal speech again I'm going to puke.
Dan, Danielle and Shane have a final 3 deal. They are all wanting Jenn to be out next. When Dan left the room, Shane and Danielle said they were honest to Dan and want Jenn out next. Interesting though to see what would happen if Shane and Jenn are the nominees after veto. Too tempting IMO for Dan to get Shane out (There would only be 2 votes in that scenario, Dan and Danielle. Dan would have to convince Ian to send Shane home).
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Dan, Danielle and Shane have a final 3 deal. They are all wanting Jenn to be out next. When Dan left the room, Shane and Danielle said they were honest to Dan and want Jenn out next. Interesting though to see what would happen if Shane and Jenn are the nominees after veto. Too tempting IMO for Dan to get Shane out (There would only be 2 votes in that scenario, Dan and Danielle. Dan would have to convince Ian to send Shane home).
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And/or convince Danielle this was the best move for her. I'm convinced Dan can talk his way into anything at this point.
Dan, Danielle and Shane have a final 3 deal. They are all wanting Jenn to be out next. When Dan left the room, Shane and Danielle said they were honest to Dan and want Jenn out next. Interesting though to see what would happen if Shane and Jenn are the nominees after veto. Too tempting IMO for Dan to get Shane out (There would only be 2 votes in that scenario, Dan and Danielle. Dan would have to convince Ian to send Shane home).
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Then Shane best get to talking with Ian, it boggles my mind that Ian has won the last three HoH's that he's eligible to compete in and Danielle and Shane put almost zero effort into trying to influencing him. C'mon at least offer him a fake F2 or fake F3, something other then just letting Dan be a wig in his ear all day.
Regardless, Shane in particuler needs to get on this, it really should have occured to him last night that Dan wants Jenn to stay... she uses Veto on him, he uses veto on her, she isn't the replacement nom even though he has an F3 with S/D... it should be clear as day that Dan isn't playing a team game anymore and the Jenn is his preferred F2 Goat.
Dan, Danielle and Shane have a final 3 deal. They are all wanting Jenn to be out next. When Dan left the room, Shane and Danielle said they were honest to Dan and want Jenn out next. Interesting though to see what would happen if Shane and Jenn are the nominees after veto. Too tempting IMO for Dan to get Shane out (There would only be 2 votes in that scenario, Dan and Danielle. Dan would have to convince Ian to send Shane home).
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Dan has Danielle on board with taking Shane out this week and Dan has convinced Ian (as of now) to nominate Jenn and Shane
Time to get rid of Dan. Great player but not a great person (at least in the game). If I have to hear another lame footbal speech again I'm going to puke.
I'm thinking the Dan hate stems from someone not taking a liking to being proven wrong:
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I think Dan's a little overrated. He's fortunate to be in his alliance because he really hasn't done anything this season. He hasn't been in any sort of power position nor has he really influenced many if any big decisions. He's kind of just tagging along with Brittney and Shane. Everyone knows he's throwing competitions and it's not like anyone in the house doesn't know his game. Will did the act much better. I expect that he will be the first quack packer evicted once the rest of the house is eliminated because like I said everyone knows what his game is and he can't be trusted when it comes right down to it.
Props to Frank for an amazing season. The guy's been up on the block week after week and keeps pulling himself off. I would like to see him stick around long enough to at least get rid of Dan, Ian, or Shane. I think Brittney's going to win this year and deservedly so as she's been running the house through Shane for most of the season.
Dan has a deal with Shane and Danielle for final 3, a deal with Danielle for final 2, a deal with Ian for final 2, and deal with Danielle and Jenn for final 3. Basically from everything Dan is saying, it seems like he is going to be true to Danielle and wants Jenn in the final 3. Getting Shane out this week, and then Ian next week seems to be his best bet. I don't understand why Ian wouldn't put up Shane and Dan as nominees.
Dan has a deal with Shane and Danielle for final 3, a deal with Danielle for final 2, a deal with Ian for final 2, and deal with Danielle and Jenn for final 3. Basically from everything Dan is saying, it seems like he is going to be true to Danielle and wants Jenn in the final 3. Getting Shane out this week, and then Ian next week seems to be his best bet. I don't understand why Ian wouldn't put up Shane and Dan as nominees.
You're Fanboy/Man-crush meter readings are starting to go off the charts man. Yes he has deals with everyone... that means he's invariably going to betray almost everyone. Beware bitter jurers.
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As for why Ian wouldn't put Dan and Shane up... it's because it doesn't really matter to him who goes up. He wants Jenn, and only Jenn, out so long as she doesn't win veto the nominations don't matter to him. He may put Shane up but he doesn't want to expose Dan in the even that Jenn does win veto, because he does have a F2 deal with him and no one else in the House has offered him anything beyond F4 so even if he think's there's only a 10% chance that Dan would really take him to the final chair that's still 10% better then what anyone else has put on the table.
It's more like a 0% chance (Dan can't beat Ian and I think he knows it) but no one in there can really know what anyone else thinks.
Frank is all ready not voting for him, and I think the "he put his hand on the bible and swore he was good" is not going to work well for Dan when Frank lets some of the others know
At this point he is all ready down 2 votes (Frank and Ashley) I don't see how he avoids losing 2 more unless he goes up against Jenn in the finals (which I think is his plan)
Against Danielle/Ian he definitely loses
he's going to need to win some challenges to get to the end too, which as was pointed out by parallex means he has to screw over his 'final 2's'
When Will screwed everyone over he didn't have final 2 deals with anyone, and he stabbed them in the front
Dan is basically playing the equivalent to Russell's first season of survivor, great in getting to the end, probably deserving of the win. But not an all time clinic (a la Dan the first time, Will, Hayden) because he's going to end up pissing almost everyone off
Frank is all ready not voting for him, and I think the "he put his hand on the bible and swore he was good" is not going to work well for Dan when Frank lets some of the others know
At this point he is all ready down 2 votes (Frank and Ashley) I don't see how he avoids losing 2 more unless he goes up against Jenn in the finals (which I think is his plan)
Against Danielle/Ian he definitely loses
he's going to need to win some challenges to get to the end too, which as was pointed out by parallex means he has to screw over his 'final 2's'
When Will screwed everyone over he didn't have final 2 deals with anyone, and he stabbed them in the front
Dan is basically playing the equivalent to Russell's first season of survivor, great in getting to the end, probably deserving of the win. But not an all time clinic (a la Dan the first time, Will, Hayden) because he's going to end up pissing almost everyone off
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Didn't Will have a Final 2 deal with Hardy? Granted, Hardy also had one with Nicole that he valued more.
Will never screwed anyone over since he never had any power. He threw every competition which was a revolutionary strategy for reality shows at the time. Plus he outright told them that he was going ti lie to them.
. With Danielle much the same except, unlike Ian, she really did have nothing to worry about. In the meantime he gets out Joe, hurting Shane in the process without actually betraying him, and could have done damage control with Jenn on betraying Frank and probably could have got a final 2 aliance sealed from her as well.
