Big Brother 2012! (warning: spoilers)

[Parallex]

Question (Whited out for possible show spoiler highlight to see): Has Dan told anyone (anyone meaning Dani) about his F2 deal with Ian?

[BlackRedGold25]

Danielle is really stupid or a horrible liar. I'm watching last night's BBAD and at one point she states that she's never been any further north than New York when Shane is asking her if she's been to Vermont. A short time later someone asks her if she's ever gone skiing and she says the only time she did was this one time when she went to Canada.

[3 Justin 3]

Originally Posted by BlackRedGold25

Danielle is really stupid or a horrible liar. I'm watching last night's BBAD and at one point she states that she's never been any further north than New York when Shane is asking her if she's been to Vermont. A short time later someone asks her if she's ever gone skiing and she says the only time she did was this one time when she went to Canada.

The answer you're looking for is: stupid. She really is a complete airhead.

[Parallex]

Joe, Joe, Joe... all you had to do was keep your mouth shut to avoid eviction (Heck, you were TOLD all you had to do was keep your mouth shut to avoid eviction), you knew you had the votes to stay (Shane/Dani/Ian) why oh why are you blabbering away to Dan? I mean... you're likely no worse off but it's so pointless and potentially self-destructive for you and Shane.

It's like a Field Mouse talking to a Cobra.

[albertGQ]

^^^

Huh? What happened? Is Joe the one that's probably leaving tomorrow now?

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

Huh? What happened? Is Joe the one that's probably leaving tomorrow now?

Erm... guess I'll spoiler tag now...

Spoiler!

Nothing much. Joe is campaigning for votes and when he went to campaign to Dan in addition to promising to not nom/replc nom him also blabbed on and on about how tight him (Joe) and Shane are. This is after Shane, Dani, and Ian told him (in days prior) that he's staying (Ian breaks the tie) so he didn't need to do anything at all (and certainly not give information).

Frank is leaving tommorow (finally) but it's a double eviction night so Joe stands a good chance of going as well. Dan wants him gone after Frank and Dan tend to get his way so barring a surprise HoH/Veto winner yeah... Joe goes tommorow as well.

[Erick Estrada]

I have a feeling Joe and Jen are going to make it much farther than they should. As every week goes by their chances of winning HOH increases and one of them winning Thursday will cost the final alliance. Shane probably will have a to make a move sooner or later to ensure that Dan is removed from the Shane/Dan/Danielle triangle so it's going to be a race between those two to see which one gets the first opportunity to take out the other.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I have a feeling Joe and Jen are going to make it much farther than they should.

Going to? They've already made it further then they should have. Particularly Jenn, Joe at least has an inkling about what's going on... he just can't leverage it because no one trusts him.

I still can't believe that of the seven left Joe is the only one that wants to get rid of Dan. Seriously, If I were in that house I'd have pushed to vote Danielle out simply because pre-reset it might have gotten rid of Dan. They're all collectively stupid to have let him get this far.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Parallex

I still can't believe that of the seven left Joe is the only one that wants to get rid of Dan. Seriously, If I were in that house I'd have pushed to vote Danielle out simply because pre-reset it might have gotten rid of Dan. They're all collectively stupid to have let him get this far.

It's like nobody realizes that the dude has already won the game once and does Ian really think he's going to win going to the end with Dan? I can't believe Shane or Ian haven't thought about what kind of deal Dan had to do to get out of last week.

Once Frank gets evicted there's not a lot of reason left to watch outside of seeing how far Dan can weasel himself further. I realize that some of you like him but I just can't root for a guy that would sell out his own mother if he could benefit from it. Will, Boogie, Dick embraced the 'evil' role and everyone in the house knew what they were about but Dan is just a weasel and it seems Brittney was the only one that could see him for his true colors. The poor sport attitude he showed last week in the gold ball veto competition was pretty low class. Seems like the kind of guy that would use a woman or kid as a human shield in a shooting. My only reason to watch now is to see him evicted.

[me_dennis]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

It's like nobody realizes that the dude has already won the game once and does Ian really think he's going to win going to the end with Dan? I can't believe Shane or Ian haven't thought about what kind of deal Dan had to do to get out of last week.

Once Frank gets evicted there's not a lot of reason left to watch outside of seeing how far Dan can weasel himself further. I realize that some of you like him but I just can't root for a guy that would sell out his own mother if he could benefit from it. Will, Boogie, Dick embraced the 'evil' role and everyone in the house knew what they were about but Dan is just a weasel and it seems Brittney was the only one that could see him for his true colors. The poor sport attitude he showed last week in the gold ball veto competition was pretty low class. Seems like the kind of guy that would use a woman or kid as a human shield in a shooting. My only reason to watch now is to see him evicted.

whoa.. calm down! you do know that this is a game right? a game that dan is quite good at.

[Barnes]

But Dan is even better at the game when all the other players are as dumb as they are this season.

[bradster57]

Originally Posted by Barnes

But Dan is even better at the game when all the other players are as dumb as they are this season.

That's easy for us to say, having seen him in the diary room. Last time he played, he was pretty loyal to Memphis and he changed his game this season so everyone trusts him.

He is a really good liar too, watching him talk to Frank is gold. I'll admit I'm rooting for Frank as everyone has been against him since the beginning but you have to respect Dan's social game!

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

It's like nobody realizes that the dude has already won the game once and does Ian really think he's going to win going to the end with Dan? I can't believe Shane or Ian haven't thought about what kind of deal Dan had to do to get out of last week.

Actually I think Ian is the only one left who has a legit shot at beating Dan (Maybe Danielle... maybe) in an F2 situation... two votes for sure (Britney, Joe) vs. Dan's two votes for sure (Jenn, Danielle) so that would leave Ashley, Frank, Shane... I think Franks ego would more allow him to vote for "the HoH that got him out" once he's left with no one to vote for but the two guys most responsible for gutting him out of the game and I think Britney's influence could have sway over the other two in Jury (before she left Ian asked Britney to talk him up as a gamer to Ashley).

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by me_dennis

whoa.. calm down! you do know that this is a game right? a game that dan is quite good at.

I realize it's a game but the guy has absolutely no remorse and the way he pushed Brittney in that POV challenge and slamming the door on people trying to get at the machine kind of showed his true character. I always reserve judgement on a person until I see how they act in a stressful situation and Dan disappointed me. If Dan was Willie in that competition everyone would have been in an uproar of how much of a jerk he was.

[Stay Golden]

Frank thinks Dan is going to help cordinate players to vote to save him and has no idea Dan has organized his demise. I wonder if some of these details will be revealed in the jury house like past seasons when they were allowed to watch the DVD's.

Its going to be interesting who Dan goes after next as its clear everyone in the house is taking his directions. I hope Joe goes home soon, can't stand that tool since day 1. What a wishy washy player, he needs to go.

Dan is a more ruthless player this season, I'm on the fence if I like watching his tactics.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

Frank thinks Dan is going to help cordinate players to vote to save him and has no idea Dan has organized his demise.

Well... I wouldn't say he "organized" it. I think it was really more Ian that did that once he won HoH and got the QP back together. He's (Frank) the obvious target since he's great at competitions and nobody really likes him.

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

Its going to be interesting who Dan goes after next as its clear everyone in the house is taking his directions.

Depends on who wins HoH. Dan's basically set it up so that no matter who wins HoH he's "on the side" of that person. I think he ultimately wants Danielle with him at the end since of all his F4, F3, F2 deals she's part of the most (Two F3 deals, one F2, two F4). Really, I have no earthly idea what his preferred boot order is after Frank since it seems to change on a daily basis even in his monologues to the camera.

I suspect his boot order is Frank, Joe, Ian/Shane, Jenn, Danielle... simple because Joe is his only non-ally that would put him up and he needs one of Ian/Shane (comp threats) to eliminate the other (no blood on his hands).

[OILFAN #81]

Double Eviction Spoilers.

Spoiler!

Frank was evicted. Dan wins HOH and nominated Ian and Joe. Ian wins POV. Danielle gets put up as the replacement nominee. Joe gets voted out 3-0. So Frank and Joe both leave the house tonight. Down to 5 houseguests remaining: Dan, Shane, Danielle, Ian, and Jenn.

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

Double Eviction Spoilers.

Spoiler!

Frank was evicted. Dan wins HOH and nominated Ian and Joe. Ian wins POV. Danielle gets put up as the replacement nominee. Joe gets voted out 3-0. So Frank and Joe both leave the house tonight. Down to 5 houseguests remaining: Dan, Shane, Danielle, Ian, and Jenn.

Spoiler!

What was Dan thinking with his nominations? He was in a pretty good position but now it seems like he just got the whole house pissed at him again.

[d_phaneuf]

HOH is...

Spoiler!

Ian

putting together a very strong competition resume the last few weeks, starting to think he may be the favorite at this point

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

Spoiler!

What was Dan thinking with his nominations? He was in a pretty good position but now it seems like he just got the whole house pissed at him again.

Spoiler!

Dan was thinking that it's a good time to get rid of Ian because traditionally at this point in the season the competitions are mental competitions. As for why he didn't put up Jenn... because Jenn is a slug and an easy win in F2. He wants to keep Jenn.