Four-time Olympic Medalists Angela Ruggiero and Hayley Wickenheiser become First Ever Female Athletes Added as Playable Characters in EA SPORTS NHL Franchise
Doug Gilmour, Jari Kurri, and Dominik Hasek added to the legends roster.
There will be two legend teams, captain'd by the female players. They will consist of legend players and current NHLs selected by them.
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Player ratings can be raised through training, though this year training only applies to a single game, so training items do not carry over from game to game.
Does this mean that younger players are no longer the building blocks of a good HUT team?
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In this year’s HUT we’ve also removed career length, allowing users to keep their players for as long as they wish.
Four-time Olympic Medalists Angela Ruggiero and Hayley Wickenheiser become First Ever Female Athletes Added as Playable Characters in EA SPORTS NHL Franchise
Doug Gilmour, Jari Kurri, and Dominik Hasek added to the legends roster.
There will be two legend teams, captain'd by the female players. They will consist of legend players and current NHLs selected by them.
Realistically what should their ratings be vs what will they actually be?
I mean really, they should both me rated lower than most junior players right? 50s?
Can someone in the know please explain how training in HUT works? Are cards re-usable? How long will it take to play a game if you've got to re-train your entire roster over and over? How could you possibly have enough cards to do this daily, especially if you play 5+ games in a night.
Forgetting the women, what are Gilmour and Kurri doing on the legends team. I mean Kurri isn't the worst choice but it's borderline. Gilmour? Ridiculous. I had this issue with Roenick, Salming and Chelios last year. This before Maurice Richard, Jean Beliveau, Phil Esposito, Marcel Dionne, Guy Lafleur, Denis Potvin, Mark Messier, Ray Bourque Mike Bossy and oh yeah... BOBBY $!(@% ORR.
Can someone in the know please explain how training in HUT works? Are cards re-usable? How long will it take to play a game if you've got to re-train your entire roster over and over? How could you possibly have enough cards to do this daily, especially if you play 5+ games in a night.
Training cards aren't reusable. You can only use them once on one player and it's a permanent upgrade to their stats until their career is over at which point you can't use that player any longer.
Training cards aren't reusable. You can only use them once on one player and it's a permanent upgrade to their stats until their career is over at which point you can't use that player any longer.
This has changed for NHL13, as explained in this link and my post above:
Forgetting the women, what are Gilmour and Kurri doing on the legends team. I mean Kurri isn't the worst choice but it's borderline. Gilmour? Ridiculous. I had this issue with Roenick, Salming and Chelios last year. This before Maurice Richard, Jean Beliveau, Phil Esposito, Marcel Dionne, Guy Lafleur, Denis Potvin, Mark Messier, Ray Bourque Mike Bossy and oh yeah... BOBBY $!(@% ORR.
They have to get licensing and approval from the players to use their likeness.
What they have is probably all they could get.
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After hearing that they've completely failed to make any changes that might actually solve the problems with EASHL drop in I think I'm done with that mode until they fix it. Might play GMC and try out HUT, which I've never played before.
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They have to get licensing and approval from the players to use their likeness.
What they have is probably all they could get.
People have IP rights in their likeness? I get how Gene Simmons can have rights to his face paint but Bossy having some kind of copyright over his name and facial structure seems a bit odd.
Either way there are literally 100 players that should be in there before Gilmour, and I feel like Denis Potvin (who does colour for the Sens) shouldn't be hard to get ahold of for this, but maybe you're right and the retired guys really, really don't want their faces in there for some reason that's not altogether clear to me.
After hearing that they've completely failed to make any changes that might actually solve the problems with EASHL drop in I think I'm done with that mode until they fix it. Might play GMC and try out HUT, which I've never played before.
People have IP rights in their likeness? I get how Gene Simmons can have rights to his face paint but Bossy having some kind of copyright over his name and facial structure seems a bit odd.
Either way there are literally 100 players that should be in there before Gilmour, and I feel like Denis Potvin (who does colour for the Sens) shouldn't be hard to get ahold of for this, but maybe you're right and the retired guys really, really don't want their faces in there for some reason that's not altogether clear to me.
Hey, look, I agree that there is a long list of players much more deserving than what we are getting. Even so, you can't use a player's (or person's) name and likeness to make money unless they get a cut.
It's for that reason that they altered the appearance of Michael Corleone in the Godfather games (Al Pacino didn't give them permission) and that all the legendary teams in the NHL 2K series had randomly generated names (Left Wing 1, Right Wing 3, etc).
If I were Bobby Orr, and I saw my face and name being used to generate profits without being asked or given my cut, I would sue the crap out of EA Sports.
In the end, I would imagine most players want more money than EA is willing or allowed to give out. Although with that said, a person has to wonder how they constructed that Montreal Canadiens centennial team a few years ago...
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-'Badger' Bob Johnson (1931-1991)
"I see as much misery out of them moving to justify theirselves as them that set out to do harm." -Dr. Amos "Doc" Cochran
If I were Bobby Orr, and I saw my face and name being used to generate profits without being asked or given my cut, I would sue the crap out of EA Sports.
I'm not saying you're wrong I'm wondering on what basis. You have to disclose a recognizable cause of action to sue someone. Do they say they have a copyright in their own facial features, or what?
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In the end, I would imagine most players want more money than EA is willing or allowed to give out. Although with that said, a person has to wonder how they constructed that Montreal Canadiens centennial team a few years ago...
In the end, I would imagine most players want more money than EA is willing or allowed to give out. Although with that said, a person has to wonder how they constructed that Montreal Canadiens centennial team a few years ago...
It can't be that hard. NBA 2K12 has a slew of Legendary teams full of real players including, but not limited to: Bill Russel, Jerry West, Oscar Robertson, Pete Maravich, Walt Frazier, Phil Jackson, Julius "Dr J" Irving, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan
It can't be that hard. NBA 2K12 has a slew of Legendary teams full of real players including, but not limited to: Bill Russel, Jerry West, Oscar Robertson, Pete Maravich, Walt Frazier, Phil Jackson, Julius "Dr J" Irving, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan
If 2K Sports can do it, there's no reason EA couldn't.
Well, you have to imagine their budget is a lot higher than what the NHL crew gets to work with.
2K has what...just the NBA franchise now? Do they still make an MLB game? EA has to spread their budget to several studios making NHL, FIFA, Madden, NCAA and Tiger Woods games.
It certainly could be better. As long as they introduce a handful of new legends each year (or even rotate them) I'm not complaining. I think I played around with the legends and legendary team once or twice in NHL 12 anyway.
__________________ "It's a great day for hockey."
-'Badger' Bob Johnson (1931-1991)
"I see as much misery out of them moving to justify theirselves as them that set out to do harm." -Dr. Amos "Doc" Cochran
I'm not saying you're wrong I'm wondering on what basis. You have to disclose a recognizable cause of action to sue someone. Do they say they have a copyright in their own facial features, or what?
There's that too...
I believe they need to get permission to use the names at least, but I am just guessing.
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In the end, I would imagine most players want more money than EA is willing or allowed to give out. Although with that said, a person has to wonder how they constructed that Montreal Canadiens centennial team a few years ago...
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There's that too...
That was with cooperation with the Canadiens organization and the players. I can't recall exactly if Canadiens came to EA, or EA went to them, but they worked together in rounding up the license for the players.
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I believe they need to get permission to use the names at least, but I am just guessing.
Names and likeness. To get those, they have to deal/negotiate with the player separately.
EA is will avoid going the number player route like they did with Madden and NHL 2K did in the past. With the lawsuits around NCAA Football doing this and former NFL players coming after EA and the NFLPA, EA is only going to get the license for the players likeness and names from now on.
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