Big Brother 2012! (warning: spoilers)

[OILFAN #81]

Originally Posted by Parallex

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Except he`s not! Ha ha... Frank pulled Ian aside and told him that he knows DAN put him up to it! and then they hugged it out! Even if Frank is just faking Dan is still target numero uno

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Ian ran and told Britney/Shane after they hugged it out so Ian is not with Frank. But watching the live feeds right now, Shane/Dan would be nominated by Frank if he won (just said it). Regardless, Dan is sitting pretty.

[Erick Estrada]

I think Dan's a little overrated. He's fortunate to be in his alliance because he really hasn't done anything this season. He hasn't been in any sort of power position nor has he really influenced many if any big decisions. He's kind of just tagging along with Brittney and Shane. Everyone knows he's throwing competitions and it's not like anyone in the house doesn't know his game. Will did the act much better. I expect that he will be the first quack packer evicted once the rest of the house is eliminated because like I said everyone knows what his game is and he can't be trusted when it comes right down to it.

Props to Frank for an amazing season. The guy's been up on the block week after week and keeps pulling himself off. I would like to see him stick around long enough to at least get rid of Dan, Ian, or Shane. I think Brittney's going to win this year and deservedly so as she's been running the house through Shane for most of the season.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

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Ian ran and told Britney/Shane after they hugged it out so Ian is not with Frank. But watching the live feeds right now, Shane/Dan would be nominated by Frank if he won (just said it). Regardless, Dan is sitting pretty.

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he has said a few times tonight he wants Dan out first and even Britney/Shane mentioned it, I think Dan is done in the next two or three evictions, I don't see him making final 4

[3 Justin 3]

Frank is pissed off.

I know a lot of people don't like him, but I hope he goes far and the only way he does that is if he keeps winning competitions.

The guy seems genuine, a smart player and really competitive. His problem though is he has no allies except maybe Jenn. I wonder if the Quack Pack would switch it up and break their alliance and someone go with Frank? I doubt it.

[d_phaneuf]

HOH is

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Frank, unless Dan wins veto I think he is gone

[eden]

Absolutely loved both Britney's and Ian's goodbye messages, probably the best part of the show to me. At this point I would be happy with any of Dan, Danielle, Britney, or Shane winning. For as much as I want the quack pack to get Frank out of the house I gotta respect him in the competitions at least.

[OILFAN #81]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

HOH is

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Frank, unless Dan wins veto I think he is gone

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That sucks. Frank would be smart to put up Shane/Dan though and guarantee one is out. Britney and Danielle's votes would be split. Ian, Joe, Jenn would be the remaining 3 votes. I think Dan would be gone 3-2.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Brittney with the huge smile St Joe's mute plea to stay is gif worthy.

Ashleigh is hilarious... "I love your side Pony tail" adorable. Doesn't get to bothered.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

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That sucks. Frank would be smart to put up Shane/Dan though and guarantee one is out. Britney and Danielle's votes would be split. Ian, Joe, Jenn would be the remaining 3 votes. I think Dan would be gone 3-2.

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ya that's my guess as well. Joe seems to have gotten close with Shane lately and Ian is with Brit/Shane over Dan and Danielle so Jenn's vote wouldn't even matter

even with a Dan/Danielle nomination I think Britney/Shane/Ian keep Danielle

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I think Dan's a little overrated.

I dunno, I rate him as the 2nd best winner in BB History (Right after Dr. Will). He`s a really good human chess player, a really personable charismatic guy, and he`s as ruthless as anyone. He just made one mistake this year... he brought the same playbook as his season (Get in an alliance, throw comps to make self appear weak, put blood on someone elses hands, crank it up at end game, win).

Which wouldn`t be a bad plan except that it`s pretty much the exact same plan that Ian brought. And it`s easier for the tiny nerd to pull off the non-threatening game then it is the winner of BB10. As a result he`s now bathed in blood.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Parallex

I dunno, I rate him as the 2nd best winner in BB History (Right after Dr. Will). He`s a really good human chess player, a really personable charismatic guy, and he`s as ruthless as anyone. He just made one mistake this year... he brought the same playbook as his season (Get in an alliance, throw comps to make self appear weak, put blood on someone elses hands, crank it up at end game, win).

Which wouldn`t be a bad plan except that it`s pretty much the exact same plan that Ian brought. And it`s easier for the tiny nerd to pull off the non-threatening game then it is the winner of BB10. As a result he`s now bathed in blood.

Exactly. I think you can win once with the chess player game where you sit in the back and make the moves through other people without ever winning competitions but you won't catch anyone by surprise the 2nd time around. I do give him props for controlling his emotions and not getting into verbal sparring but his throwing of the competitions has got pretty lame the 2nd time around when everyone in the house knows he's doing it and expect it.

[jar_e]

Frank must be close to setting a record for most POV wins/nominations no?

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by jar_e

Frank must be close to setting a record for most POV wins/nominations no?

I believe the record is currently held by Janelle with 9 victories in BBAS with 4HoH & 5PoV. So he's got a ways to go. AS far as a nomination record... don't know that one. Four Times on the block is a lot and I'm having trouble thinking of anyone who was harder to get rid of, BB8 Jen maybe.

[North East Goon]

So basically all these supposed "great" players are just doing what Dr. Will did back in 2001? There is only one great player in BB history.

[Stay Golden]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

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That sucks. Frank would be smart to put up Shane/Dan though and guarantee one is out. Britney and Danielle's votes would be split. Ian, Joe, Jenn would be the remaining 3 votes. I think Dan would be gone 3-2.

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I like that they are having a difficult time getting Frank out of the house. I hope he does not pick his nominations on emotion and pick Ian or Joe. The rest of this group will gladly vote either one out and have Zero blood on their hands, being they had to make a catch 22 decision is they way it will come across.
I would rather Frank put up Shane and Dan. If one of them wins veto, Frank puts up Brittny forcing the hand of the house to send a strong member of their over welming majority alliance home.

[Parallex]

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Oh man, Danielle may be a nutty headcase but she's got a set of brass ones. Almost right after Frank told her of his intention to put both her and Dan on the block she proposed a final two deal to Frank.

[Erick Estrada]

The TV show is leaving out some stuff. I have some questions that hopefully some of the people that get the feed may know:

1. What was with the Boogie speech to Joe just before his eviction? Was there a blowup between Joe and Frank/Boogie?
2. After Boogie's eviction what was it that Frank and Ashley did to make Ian's 'blood boil'? Did Ashley have a meltdown to make the house all hater her at the end?
3. Did Ian find out about Frank and Ashley kissing? Just wondering why he was so mad at them.

[Stay Golden]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The TV show is leaving out some stuff. I have some questions that hopefully some of the people that get the feed may know:

1. What was with the Boogie speech to Joe just before his eviction? Was there a blowup between Joe and Frank/Boogie?
2. After Boogie's eviction what was it that Frank and Ashley did to make Ian's 'blood boil'? Did Ashley have a meltdown to make the house all hater her at the end?
3. Did Ian find out about Frank and Ashley kissing? Just wondering why he was so mad at them.

1. From what i saw on the feeds. Joe strung Boogie and Frank along from the moment Frank won veto. They were pissed because they swore to Joe he would not go home and he didn't twice on the block. Joe said back a few weeks if you can save me, you can count on my vote to save you if you need it. He gave the redneck "i swear on my wife and kids"BS. They kept their bargain and he didn't return the vote. Not only did he not support them as he promised he would. Joe made up a whole pack of lies about B&F in gossip sessions in the HOH room with Shane, Danielle and Brit to make sure B&F went up on the block. There is no doubt they were likely going to go up anyways but Joe just added more gas.

2. Ian was just playing it up for his alliance. B&F thought Ian was with them all the way until they added up the votes and realized Ian burned them. There was no tension between from Boogie towards Ian prior to the votes.

3. Nobody other than F&A know they made out for sure but because of how they started to hang out more frequently. The rest of house kind of assumes something happened. Could have been pure jealousy on Ian's part, he is pretty immature and he is trying to act large because he really is not used to being in the in crowd. Again immature.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

After Boogie's eviction what was it that Frank and Ashley did to make Ian's 'blood boil'? Did Ashley have a meltdown to make the house all hater her at the end?

Did Ian find out about Frank and Ashley kissing? Just wondering why he was so mad at them.

I thought that related to when Boogie left he hugged Frank and said "Ian is not to be trusted" loud enough for everyone to hear so then after winning HoH Ian needed to give a reason for nominating F/A so he used Boogies implorement as a rational for his nominations (because they were his allies).

As for Ashley, she pissed Jenn off badly. Ashley was promising her Ashley's vote and then Joe ratted out Ashley as being firmly in Camp Boogie.

Britney & Ian's goodbye video's made me lol. Boogie shows way more grace in defeat then he does in victory. I wonder if he'll show up on finale night with a "Villain" jersey for Ian to wear.

[MrMastodonFarm]

The only thing crappy about this for Ian is, it should have happened a week later.

If this happened next week you have Boogie in the jury room, who now has huge respect for Ian's game. You have Frank there next, with Boogie whispering in his ear and maybe a couple more quack pack players.

Now Frank will just hold a grudge. If it happened a week later Ian would be set up pretty nicely going forward.