Fathers Age Seen as Determining a Baby's Disease Risk

[Nyah]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

I also love new parents trying to convince everyone without kids that it's the hardest thing in the world.

It sort of reminds me of hanging out with triathletes.

Wouldn't being a new parent truely be one of the hardest things in the world? My boyfriend and I have been together for almost 10 years and we don't have kids because:
a) We're selfish.
b) It probably IS the hardest thing in the world....and:
c) We're selfish.
EDIT, I forgot one of the most important reasons:
d) Kids scare the crap outta me. They're unpredictable & with my nieces & nephews I'm the definition of "helicopter supervision".

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

I also love new parents trying to convince everyone without kids that it's the hardest thing in the world.

It sort of reminds me of hanging out with triathletes.

Well it's hard to be good at it. Most aren't that's why people suck...

[YYC in LAX]

Originally Posted by fotze

I bet zero people on earth have said its the hardest thing on earth.

Huh? I'll take that bet. Also, easy on the cheese humour. You're a funny guy, we get it.

[Danijam]

Re: kids - Anyone in here in their early to mid-twenties posting that they don't want them will most likely change their minds.

Super sorry about your uncle, Muta. I am an insensitive dick.

[YYC in LAX]

Originally Posted by fotze

Not sure what cheese humor is? Cheesy?

This is cheese humour:

Originally Posted by fotze

• Sewage worker in calcutta to pay for a sex change

"Sewage worker in calcutta to pay for a sex change." This is probably where Louis CK would chime in with his, this joke is the worst thing to happen to America joke you've alluded to before.



That joke was worse than having sex with a girl in Calcutta, only to find out she's actually a male sewage worker. <- See how forced and lame that is?


Anyways, getting back on track, your OP said you're interested in old man semen so maybe we can get back to talking about that?

[YYC in LAX]

Well I think a mod edited my post but maybe you saw the end of it. Anyways, that was fun.

I like you.

[zuluking]

CP trend alert: Thread started about something relating to children becomes thread for childless people to defend their decision to have no children in light of no criticism.

[Russic]

Originally Posted by Nyah

Wouldn't being a new parent truely be one of the hardest things in the world? My boyfriend and I have been together for almost 10 years and we don't have kids because:
a) We're selfish.
b) It probably IS the hardest thing in the world....and:
c) We're selfish.
EDIT, I forgot one of the most important reasons:
d) Kids scare the crap outta me. They're unpredictable & with my nieces & nephews I'm the definition of "helicopter supervision".

I'm always very impressed by people like you. Before having kids I didn't totally understand people who didn't want them. Now that I do I'm impressed by those able to understand what it takes without going through it first. I love having kids even more than I thought I would, but if you don't particularly want them they will ruin you. I know several couples who had kids because it seemed like the thing to do and now it isn't exactly super-happy-fun time.

Being a parent is certainly the hardest thing I've ever done in my life (by a factor of about 9). That being said as a white guy in Canada you can imagine I haven't exactly had the roughest uphill climb. It's my toughest challenge, not the toughest challenge.

[TheGrimm]

Originally Posted by zuluking

CP trend alert: Thread started about something relating to children becomes thread for childless people to defend their decision to have no children in light of no criticism.

Hahaha.. I think it's a conditioned response from continuously having to answer questions about why they don't have kids yet..

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Nyah

Wouldn't being a new parent truely be one of the hardest things in the world? My boyfriend and I have been together for almost 10 years and we don't have kids because:
a) We're selfish.
b) It probably IS the hardest thing in the world....and:
c) We're selfish.
EDIT, I forgot one of the most important reasons:
d) Kids scare the crap outta me. They're unpredictable & with my nieces & nephews I'm the definition of "helicopter supervision".

I can't say that this list is what I comes to mind when I go through my own thought process of having a kid, but I'm amazed how so many people seem to never fully think it through. Kudos to you.

It is probably the biggest decision that one can make in their entire lives and yet so many adults don't bother to fully figure out what is coming down the pipe for the next 18 years. It's not like we don't have family/friend examples, books, life experience through baby sitting, the internet, etc. How can anybody be surprised that you're going to be massively short on sleep and not be able to do the stuff you want when you want anymore?

I think some people spend more time researching new cellphone models. And personally, I see a lot more people insecure about their decision to have a kid than not to be honest. The effort to hound other people about joining them seems to reek of self justification desperation whist they pimp their child's ability to poop on their own on facebook. "See, all that I had to give up in my life is worth it! See! See!"

Joking aside, there is certainly nothing wrong with having kids - just wish more people took the time to think through the entire commitment through. It's not like you can return it; in fact it is a bigger deal than getting married. If you don't, I think you are doing a disservice to yourself - and more importantly, to the new life you're bringing into this world.

Oh, and this:

[Traditional_Ale]

If I choose to have kids, I'll adopt. There are lots of older kids that need adopting that might not be because everyone wants infants. Also, my genetics aren't the best.

[Bill Bumface]

I still fail to see how it can be that bad. I mean, before we could program VCRs, the human race was capable of raising children. Before calculus was figured out, still no problem raising kids.

I just don't believe something that every dip-####'s parents did can be that challenging. Does it take a lot of time? Of course. Massive amounts of it. But you aren't exactly in rare company if you manage to successfully raise kids that make it through high school without going to jail.

My friend who has a 2 year old and a 3.5 year old says he wants one more. If you have enough energy with a 2 and3.5 year old to even think of plowing your wife it's gotta be alright. Otherwise no one would ever have more than one...

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

I still fail to see how it can be that bad. I mean, before we could program VCRs, the human race was capable of raising children. Before calculus was figured out, still no problem raising kids.

I just don't believe something that every dip-####'s parents did can be that challenging. Does it take a lot of time? Of course. Massive amounts of it. But you aren't exactly in rare company if you manage to successfully raise kids that make it through high school without going to jail.

My friend who has a 2 year old and a 3.5 year old says he wants one more. If you have enough energy with a 2 and3.5 year old to even think of plowing your wife it's gotta be alright. Otherwise no one would ever have more than one...

Well, not all kids are the same. Some are way harder to parent than others based on their nature. If you've never had a difficult or higher-needs child it would be hard to relate to, but it's possible your friend had two easy kids and his experience cannot be extrapolated to parenting in general. Some parents have a lot of support (retired grandparents that help out). The experience of those parents will be vastly different (i.e. easier) than for parents that don't have that help. Basically, every situation is different, but it is hard.

Also, raising kids has become increasingly difficult through the ages. I mean, that's why there is 13 - 17+ years of school required before you can even become a productive member of society (I think my grandpa went to grade 8 and had a perfectly fine career).

Plus, just think of the ways the world has changed since we were kids. Throw in the computer, the Internet, etc. on just the technology front. It takes time and energy from parents to help teach kids to navigate this electronic world properly - a responsibility that didn't exist until like 15 years ago. Add to that our increased awareness of concussions and other safety issues that require more work to manage and prevent and you can see how much more work is involved for parents than a generation ago, let alone in the caveman days.

Also, I think the trend in our society of having kids later makes it more difficult on old, tired parents. I could have handled having eight kids if I started when I was 16. The crazy part is, this has become a vicious cycle of having kids late in life, driven by the fact that we spend so much time in school before we can even start earning a high enough living to support children as nowadays they're incredibly expensive and consume way more familial resources versus most of history when they contributed to a family's survival 20 years sooner. Then those kids have their kids later, etc.

Finally, it can be easy if you do a ####ty job, but then you get ####ty kids as a result. Sure, you could float through it, but you're likely to get a better result if you put more into it (like anything else).

[kevman]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Add to that our increased awareness of concussions and other safety issues that require more work to manage and prevent and you can see how much more work is involved for parents than a generation ago, let alone in the caveman days.

Haha... I'm no expert but taking your kid home from day care and putting them in front of a TV for the evening seems like a walk in the park compared to protecting them from Sabre Tooth Tiger attacks...

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by kevman

Haha... I'm no expert but taking your kid home from day care and putting them in front of a TV for the evening seems like a walk in the park compared to protecting them from Sabre Tooth Tiger attacks...

I'm sure there are a lot more cars flying around in 2012 than there were tigers in B.C. 14,000, too.

But like I said, if you you want to do a ####ty job feel free to pick them up at daycare then set them in front of the TV a la Cable Guy. You'll get out of it exactly what you put into it.

[The Goon]

I think if you're regularly ejaculating the quality of your sperm should be refreshed enough to avoid these issues. At the very least, it reduces the percentage of the risk.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by fotze

Its not the tasks its the complete loss of free will that comes with it.

Don't they go to bed at like 7pm? If they cry, go check on them every intermission? I guess you have to get faster at grabbing beer out of the fridge on the way back...

[Rathji]

My daughter came in the house yesterday, while we had company, and complained that my son had smeared poop all over her neck and shirt. Sure enough, he had crapped his pants and it had spread everywhere: His bike, his hands and legs, his shoes, the steps, etc. I wont go into details, but the next ~15 mins were not a fun experience.

While parenting might not be the hardest thing in the world, it certainly ranks top 10.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Rathji

My daughter came in the house yesterday, while we had company, and complained that my son had smeared poop all over her neck and shirt. Sure enough, he had crapped his pants and it had spread everywhere: His bike, his hands and legs, his shoes, the steps, etc. I wont go into details, but the next ~15 mins were not a fun experience.

While parenting might not be the hardest thing in the world, it certainly ranks top 10.

^^Toddlers sound like having to take care of your drunk, ####### friend, but everyday instead of just Friday/Saturday nights.

[The Goon]

I should add, ejaculating 3-5x/week can also assist in reducing prostate cancer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostate_cancer#Ejaculation_frequency

http://doctor.ndtv.com/storypage/ndt...ncer_risk.html