The Ongoing Dog Attack Mega-Thread

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by Hans Landa

Yea but that opens a huge can of worms.

I agree that pitbulls are more dangerous than say, a Newfoundland Dog, but Pitbull owners are going to shout Doggy Racism.

And if you're the type of person that thinks dogs are like people, then I guess they'd have a point.

My wife calls our dog her "fur child".

Trust me... she's not alone in this aspect.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Rerun

My wife calls our dog her "fur child".

Trust me... she's not alone in this aspect.

Just because there are a lot of weird dog people who value animals more than they do humans doesn't make it ok.

[TheGrimm]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Just because there are a lot of weird dog people who value animals more than they do humans doesn't make it ok.

There are people who are eccentric in all aspects of life.. The truth lies in the meaty part of the bell curve.

My sister has a blue-nose pitbull and while he is a great dog, he is tenacious and I wouldn't trust him around my child unsupervised. She, on the other hand is convinced he would never hurt a child and will let him hang around her infant child unsupervised.

Our family boxer is probably one of the most affectionate dogs I know (I might be slightly biased). He loves the neighbourhood children and we often let him off leash while we are puttering around the front yard (we live in a cul-de-sac), he is extremely friendly and we had never had a violent incident until last summer.

My wife was suntanning in the back yard and the meter reader came walking around the corner and startled our dog, he proceeded to snarl and charged at the meter reader who bolted back through the gate to the other side of the fence. Had my wife not witnessed it I would never have believed it could happen.

I am not sure he would have attacked the guy, but the fact is, as much as you think you know your dog, when instincts and self preservation kick in, they can be dangerous.

There should be aptitude tests and licenses required for all dog owners. Dog ownership is a privilege, and anyone who cares enough about the animals should have no problem ensuring they are fit to co-habitate.

[SportsJunky]

^ I assume you don't let him roam freely off the leash after this episode with the meter reader, right? Dogs are great but we can't assume we can predict how they will react at all times. Better safe than sorry.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by TheGrimm

There are people who are eccentric in all aspects of life.. The truth lies in the meaty part of the bell curve.

My sister has a blue-nose pitbull and while he is a great dog, he is tenacious and I wouldn't trust him around my child unsupervised. She, on the other hand is convinced he would never hurt a child and will let him hang around her infant child unsupervised.

Our family boxer is probably one of the most affectionate dogs I know (I might be slightly biased). He loves the neighbourhood children and we often let him off leash while we are puttering around the front yard (we live in a cul-de-sac), he is extremely friendly and we had never had a violent incident until last summer.

My wife was suntanning in the back yard and the meter reader came walking around the corner and startled our dog, he proceeded to snarl and charged at the meter reader who bolted back through the gate to the other side of the fence. Had my wife not witnessed it I would never have believed it could happen.

I am not sure he would have attacked the guy, but the fact is, as much as you think you know your dog, when instincts and self preservation kick in, they can be dangerous.

There should be aptitude tests and licenses required for all dog owners. Dog ownership is a privilege, and anyone who cares enough about the animals should have no problem ensuring they are fit to co-habitate.

Your dog's protective instincts probably kicked in. Your wife was suntanning so was probably in a vulnerable position, a stranger suddenly invaded your wife's and dog's territory.... The dog reacted to protect his family. Certainly understandable.

[J pold]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Just because there are a lot of weird dog people who value animals more than they do humans doesn't make it ok.

This. I should preface this by saying that I’ve never had a dog, so I’m sure there is a lot I don’t understand about the owner/dog relationship but the humanization of pets and blurring of the lines between animal and human is something I do not understand at all.

For example last week there was a thread on reddit about a father who had found his son had been sodomizing the family dog. What really struck me about the original post and all the top comments that follow were almost all concerned with the safety of the dog. This guys own flesh and blood in engaging in sexual deviancy and borderline psychotic behaviour and all he seems to care about is the well being of his dog. Don’t get me wrong I feel bad for the dog and it’s safety, but the needs of the human, especially when that human is your own child should always come before an animal, at least in my opinion.

Cesar Milan has spoken on the dangers of humanization of dogs, and how this trend can create sick dysfunctional relationships between pets and their owners. People talk about neglectful owners when it comes to dangerous breeds, but I would be interested to see how many of those owners whose dogs attack other people view those dogs as their “fur child”. Owners who are unable to properly discipline their pets because they see them less as animals with animal impulses and more like small helpless children.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Rerun

Your dog's protective instincts probably kicked in. Your wife was suntanning so was probably in a vulnerable position, a stranger suddenly invaded your wife's and dog's territory.... The dog reacted to protect his family. Certainly understandable.

...or a dog's actions are not predictable and as such we should not be applying hindsight to them....

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Rerun

My wife calls our dog her "fur child".

Trust me... she's not alone in this aspect.

Fur child, seriously? That just sounds creepy.

[jofillips]

hey no-one mentioned peanut butter...

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

...or a dog's actions are not predictable and as such we should not be applying hindsight to them....

I think Cesar Milan, who has already been mentioned in this thread, would probably disagree with you.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Just because there are a lot of weird dog people who value animals more than they do humans doesn't make it ok.

Example: A dog and a child are drowning in a lake. The dog is yours but the child is not.

I guarantee that everyone of these "weird people" would save the child first.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Rerun

I think Cesar Milan, who has already been mentioned in this thread, would probably disagree with you.

That's fine he can, that's the beauty of opinions.

That being said, how many stories have you read/heard regarding dog attacks that read:

"We aren't really surprised by this attack. This dog was extremely violent and aggressive. To be honest, he have had a dog attack advent calender go in the kitchen"

......

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

That's fine he can, that's the beauty of opinions.

That being said, how many stories have you read/heard regarding dog attacks that read:

"We aren't really surprised by this attack. This dog was extremely violent and aggressive. To be honest, he have had a dog attack advent calender go in the kitchen"

......

I don't understand this part of your post.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Rerun

I don't understand this part of your post.

they have a countdown to the attack.

[coaster]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I should qualify that I can't comment on the legitimacy of this study, but a quick browse online suggests your numbers to be slightly skewed.
The study I linked shows 88 dog caused deaths in the states over 3 years(06-08). 52 of the 88 were pitbull. Again I don't know anything about dogbites.org.

http://www.dogsbite.org/reports/dogs...-2006-2008.pdf

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

That being said, how many stories have you read/heard regarding dog attacks that read:

"We aren't really surprised by this attack. This dog was extremely violent and aggressive. To be honest, he have had a dog attack advent calender go in the kitchen"

......

Just this weekend actually . . .

http://www.calgarysun.com/2012/08/18...ttacked-before

“It was a matter of time,” he said.
“It was a matter of when, not if.
“It was a very preventable tragedy.”
“I was surprised they didn’t make them get rid of the dogs,” she said.
“I thought the people who own the dogs would have done something to make sure they weren’t going to attack someone else.”

“She said the dogs wouldn’t hurt anybody.”

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by chemgear

Just this weekend actually . . .

http://www.calgarysun.com/2012/08/18...ttacked-before

“It was a matter of time,” he said.
“It was a matter of when, not if.
“It was a very preventable tragedy.”
“I was surprised they didn’t make them get rid of the dogs,” she said.
“I thought the people who own the dogs would have done something to make sure they weren’t going to attack someone else.”

“She said the dogs wouldn’t hurt anybody.”

This proves my point. This is the owner saying that said. An owner of a dog with a history of attacks.

My point is that the owner of the dog which attacks always says "this is so out of character" " they would not hurt anybody"....etc etc....

[HerbalMagic]

Originally Posted by coaster

I should qualify that I can't comment on the legitimacy of this study, but a quick browse online suggests your numbers to be slightly skewed.
The study I linked shows 88 dog caused deaths in the states over 3 years(06-08). 52 of the 88 were pitbull. Again I don't know anything about dogbites.org.

http://www.dogsbite.org/reports/dogs...-2006-2008.pdf

"Pitbulls" cover TONS of different breeds and mixes of breeds. Pitbulls are a very blanket name for many bulldog mixes, mastiff mixes, stafford terrier mixes there is no Purebred Pitbull they just don't exist. So that 52 of 88 could of been a ton of dogs that get mistaken as "pitbulls" constantly when they are really a boxer or mastiff or even american bulldog. The American Staffordshire terrier is the closest thing to a pure pitbull.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by chemgear

Just this weekend actually . . .

http://www.calgarysun.com/2012/08/18...ttacked-before

“It was a matter of time,” he said.
“It was a matter of when, not if.
“It was a very preventable tragedy.”
“I was surprised they didn’t make them get rid of the dogs,” she said.
“I thought the people who own the dogs would have done something to make sure they weren’t going to attack someone else.”

“She said the dogs wouldn’t hurt anybody.”

In this case the dog owner should be put down along with the dog! Totally irresponsible ownership!

At the very least, the dog owner should face prison time, IMHO.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Rerun

In this case the dog owner should be put down along with the dog! Totally irresponsible ownership!

At the very least, the dog owner should face prison time, IMHO.

Rerun i'm just curious, are you for or against gun control? it's no doubt always the owner's fault, but sometimes the government has to intervene and prevent stupid people from obtaining dangerous animals too easily