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Old 08-15-2012, 09:53 PM   #561
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Some pics from "Buyout" via Twitter. Discussion fodder.

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Old 08-15-2012, 09:54 PM   #562
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dammit I wish I hadn't of clicked that.
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That was pretty, pretty, pretty good!
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:20 PM   #564
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Yeah, the second pic was along the lines of what I was expecting so it's cool. I would have liked the first pic to be a surprise though because the awesomeness potential of that is amazing.

Mea Culpa.
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:24 PM   #566
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I think those are up for interpretation, at least the Todd pic. What I would wonder if what the 3 of them are doing together for dinner.
I suspect Walt is just demonstrating to Skyler that he's in control and can do what he wants.
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y'all should take that to spoilers for those of us who ain't got no time for no stankin' leaks!
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y'all should take that to spoilers for those of us who ain't got no time for no stankin' leaks!
Sorry - I have spoilerized it now.
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Old 08-16-2012, 08:18 AM   #569
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I watched the last episode with the kids making a bunch of noise, so I think I might have missed something. Can someone explain how the gang was able to figure out the exact distance from the train crossing to plan their heist? I thought Lydia said the train gets broken down and reassembled and she won't know which car contains the methylamine until she gets the manifest between midnight and 2:00 am? Would the manifest even tell you where in the close to a mile of train cars the meth car was located? How would they have known so far in advance where to bury the containers?
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I don't think the kid is dead....yet.

I think this will lead to Jesse's desire to get him help while Walt might want him dead. Mike and Walt will naturally disagree on something and create a bigger rift between them. No doubt, Mike will be pissed that Walt kept the transfer going while Mike told him to stop and get out of there. Greedy Walt.

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I don't think the kid is dead....yet.

I think this will lead to Jesse's desire to get him help while Walt might want him dead. Mike and Walt will naturally disagree on something and create a bigger rift between them. No doubt, Mike will be pissed that Walt kept the transfer going while Mike told him to stop and get out of there. Greedy Walt.

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I don't think Walt was being greedy there. At that point, he was transferring water back in. He already had the product out.

It was more about details and making sure the job was done precisely how it was planned. Leaving too much weight out of the train would be a red flag.
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Can someone explain how the gang was able to figure out the exact distance from the train crossing to plan their heist? I thought Lydia said the train gets broken down and reassembled and she won't know which car contains the methylamine until she gets the manifest between midnight and 2:00 am? Would the manifest even tell you where in the close to a mile of train cars the meth car was located? How would they have known so far in advance where to bury the containers?
I was thinking the same thing at the time, I imagine they used some creative license since there is no way they would know in advance where the car would land and the odds of it ending up perfect are pretty high. Even if the train would have stopped sooner the car would have been in different location.

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I don't think Walt was being greedy there. At that point, he was transferring water back in. He already had the product out.
They were doing both at the same time, sucking the product out the bottom while filling the top with water. The gauge he had was counting up to 1000 gallons but they were only putting 920 gallons of water back in. Also when he yelled to Jesse to stop he shut off the valve under the train car and the liquid had begun to spill over the top of the tank below. He may have been concerned that stopping too soon would throw the weight off though.
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I was thinking the same thing at the time, I imagine they used some creative license since there is no way they would know in advance where the car would land and the odds of it ending up perfect are pretty high. Even if the train would have stopped sooner the car would have been in different location.
Yah, but Jesse used that measuring device to mark out a precise distance from the crossing and got excited when it finally read a certain distance. Didn't make sense at the time and it makes even less sense to me now.

Edit: Read another perspective on a different forum.

Jesse was measuring the distance from the crossing required for the train to stop, not where the methlyamine car would be.

The crew had long enough hoses to deal with the car being at various places in the train of cars. Cars carrying hazardous materials like methlyamine have to be a minimum distance from the engine so you can sort of rule out a good stretch of cars towards the front of the train.

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Yah, but Jesse used that measuring device to mark out a precise distance from the crossing and got excited when it finally read a certain distance. Didn't make sense at the time and it makes even less sense to me now.


They knew which car the chemical was in. They knew the length of standard train car. It's probably something that works a lot better in theory than reality. However, it's not the most far fetched thing I've ever seen on a TV show.
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They knew which car the chemical was in. They knew the length of standard train car. It's probably something that works a lot better in theory than reality. However, it's not the most far fetched thing I've ever seen on a TV show.
I didn't think they knew which car it was in until they got the call from Lydia, or was she just giving them the time?
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If you're getting tied in knots about the train car how do you feel about the magnet?
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If you're getting tied in knots about the train car how do you feel about the magnet?
The same way I feel about magical bugs and tracking equipment in Hank's office. It's starting to feel like there's too much awesome equipment and happy circumstances that helpfully appear out of nowhere. Mind you, that's been the case throughout the whole series (seriously lucky how that crap Walt threw into the fan in Tuco's place worked out).
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I think if you'll watch any television show ever, you'll notice how apparent coincidences drive the story.

Should he have died in the first episode when he tried to kill himself?
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Yep it's important not to read too deeply into the kind of show Breaking Bad is. It's not very deep thematically, it's an action show. That doesn't mean it isn't a very well done action show. But this isn't really taking place in 'reality.' So you can let some of that stuff slide so long as it makes sense in the broader context and that they use to advance the story meaningfully.
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They were doing both at the same time, sucking the product out the bottom while filling the top with water. The gauge he had was counting up to 1000 gallons but they were only putting 920 gallons of water back in. Also when he yelled to Jesse to stop he shut off the valve under the train car and the liquid had begun to spill over the top of the tank below. He may have been concerned that stopping too soon would throw the weight off though.
But if water is heavier than methylmene, wouldn't it sink to the bottom and contaminate the methylmene that they were removing if that was the case?

I know that they apparently mix in solution, but there would still be some time before the dilution would be uniform.
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