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Old 08-16-2012, 01:46 AM   #81
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where is that confessional thread when you need it....

Had a very hot physics teacher in high school (Sir Winston Churchill: 1998-2000).

Used to spend 1/2 the class sitting on one of the desks at the front chatting with the male students and generally wore a short skirt under the lab coat....nice legs


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Old 08-16-2012, 03:34 AM   #82
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:46 AM   #83
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Old 08-16-2012, 04:36 AM   #84
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How does a guy "support his wife" after THAT! I'm guessing he fessed up to something way worse.
I never understood the logic in "THAT'S TOTALLY HOT! HE SHOULD LEAVE HER!"

I mean there's a distant possibility of him knowing her wife and loving her for what she is. Possibly especially including the slutty stuff.

Not everybody is of the jealous type. Heck, for all we know they do that stuff all the time together with his army buddies.

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I never understood the logic in "THAT'S TOTALLY HOT! HE SHOULD LEAVE HER!"

I mean there's a distant possibility of him knowing her wife and loving her for what she is. Possibly especially including the slutty stuff.

Not everybody is of the jealous type. Heck, for all we know they do that stuff all the time together with his army buddies.

"It's okay honey, but from now on no videotapes, okay?"
Even if he was into his wife having group sex behind his back, she betrayed the trust of the school board, the parents that send their kids there, undermined the authority of the other teachers in that school, broke the law, and in general was about as unprofessional in a position of authority as you can possibly get. It's not only the group sex (if they're into that, I don't care) that would have to make a husband question her moral character.
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Old 08-16-2012, 05:41 AM   #86
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Even if he was into his wife having group sex behind his back, she betrayed the trust of the school board, the parents that send their kids there, undermined the authority of the other teachers in that school, broke the law, and in general was about as unprofessional in a position of authority as you can possibly get. It's not only the group sex (if they're into that, I don't care) that would have to make a husband question her moral character.
"Moral character?" Sorry to say but I find that kind of moralism more than a little funny in the context of this thread.

Teachers have been banging students thoughout history, these were consenting adults, there is no proof (or even a case made it seems) that this somehow seriously affected her ability to do her job and frankly that's all there is to this. Young stupid people having wild sex, breaking social norms. Nothing really bad happened before a bunch of Murricans started getting their panties in a knot in moral outrage.

She, as the woman, the teacher and the oldest person involved gets heat for it, somewhat deservedly and to some extent not.

What she did created a serious image and credibility problem for her personally, and there's a good reason for the law protecting students being in place, but when people start getting into what a certain specific person, in this case her husband, should think about this or what he propably thinks about this, we are getting into the dark waters of unhealthy moralism.

What I find most sad is that once again you are seem to be assuming that he propably married her without knowing what she's like as a person. Maybe they share the same values, maybe they agree that the concept of "moral character" you seem to be rooting for is outdated, impractical and a misogynistic double-standard. Maybe they get a huge kick out of breaking moral standards. Maybe he's just not a "moral standards" kind of a guy.

Now, there's a good reason to try and protect young people from those who have authority over them, but the fact that they might actually put this woman in jail for 20 years to me only shows what a backwater country the US is in some ways.
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Even if he was into his wife having group sex behind his back, she betrayed the trust of the school board, the parents that send their kids there, undermined the authority of the other teachers in that school, broke the law, and in general was about as unprofessional in a position of authority as you can possibly get. It's not only the group sex (if they're into that, I don't care) that would have to make a husband question her moral character.
I think this stuff needs to be based on a case by case situation. IMO the most important factors are that all the students were of age and consenting.

Beyond that as long as she didn't manipulate them in any way, I honestly don't think it's that bad. If she used her power to manipulate them then charge her, otherwise just fire her for breaking policy and don't waste the taxpayers money on a trial.
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where is that confessional thread when you need it....

Had a very hot physics teacher in high school (Sir Winston Churchill: 1998-2000).

Used to spend 1/2 the class sitting on one of the desks at the front chatting with the male students and generally wore a short skirt under the lab coat....nice legs

I remember her... but not in that way...
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I never understood the logic in "THAT'S TOTALLY HOT! HE SHOULD LEAVE HER!"

I mean there's a distant possibility of him knowing her wife and loving her for what she is. Possibly especially including the slutty stuff.

Not everybody is of the jealous type. Heck, for all we know they do that stuff all the time together with his army buddies.

"It's okay honey, but from now on no videotapes, okay?"

So is the term "####hold" new to most of you guys
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So is the term "####hold" new to most of you guys
Is that different than ####old?
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Is that different than ####old?
yeah that's the French version
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yeah that's the French version
it's funny I googled it and site like urban dictionary spell it with an H as well, yet describe it as the same thing. I think it's one of those words that you can spell multiple ways now since no one ever gets it right
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it's funny I googled it and site like urban dictionary spell it with an H as well, yet describe it as the same thing. I think it's one of those words that you can spell multiple ways now since no one ever gets it right
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"Moral character?" Sorry to say but I find that kind of moralism more than a little funny in the context of this thread.

Teachers have been banging students thoughout history, these were consenting adults, there is no proof (or even a case made it seems) that this somehow seriously affected her ability to do her job and frankly that's all there is to this. Young stupid people having wild sex, breaking social norms. Nothing really bad happened before a bunch of Murricans started getting their panties in a knot in moral outrage.

She, as the woman, the teacher and the oldest person involved gets heat for it, somewhat deservedly and to some extent not.

What she did created a serious image and credibility problem for her personally, and there's a good reason for the law protecting students being in place, but when people start getting into what a certain specific person, in this case her husband, should think about this or what he propably thinks about this, we are getting into the dark waters of unhealthy moralism.

What I find most sad is that once again you are seem to be assuming that he propably married her without knowing what she's like as a person. Maybe they share the same values, maybe they agree that the concept of "moral character" you seem to be rooting for is outdated, impractical and a misogynistic double-standard. Maybe they get a huge kick out of breaking moral standards. Maybe he's just not a "moral standards" kind of a guy.

Now, there's a good reason to try and protect young people from those who have authority over them, but the fact that they might actually put this woman in jail for 20 years to me only shows what a backwater country the US is in some ways.
Why should it matter if they were consenting adults (as you point out in your first line)? Because it's against the law, or do you honestly care about some arbitrary number (discussed ad nauseum in the other thread)? If it honestly matters to you because it's against the law, then it should also matter to you that what she did with her position as a teacher and their positions as students is also against the law. Otherwise, why only be concerned about one law and not others?

She didn't do what she did inside a vacuum (heh). It does more than harm her credibility and image -- what a simplistic way of looking at it -- it reflects poorly on the entire school and those who hire the teachers, and undermines the positions of authority other teachers at the school require to work (excusing this behaviour would do wonders for the respect hormone-dominated teenage boys have for other female teachers). In a nation that already possesses an unhealthy picture of their school system, instances like this can do nothing but harm it further.

Now, obviously, I believe upholding the professionalism of a position, especially in a position of authority, respecting the trust put into you by your employers and the trust of the families that may send their children and adolescents to your place of employment, and upholding the law even if you may disagree with it is morally right. You may call that "unhealthy moralism," but I would then call your position unhealthy moral nihilism.
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you don't see the difference between of age and underage?
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Although all of the students were over 18 years old, it is against Texas law for a teacher to have an improper relationship with a student, regardless of age.
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Doesn't matter if they were 15 or 50.
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looks like a case of "when i was in high school the popular guys weren't interested because i look like rachel dratch. But now that i'm older i can finally get with the cool guys i've always dreamt of." Pretty narcissistic if you ask me.


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I remember her... but not in that way...
Did you ever have her teach you? If she wasn't chatting with the male students she was having a 'consult' in the chemical storage room with the other physics teacher we had.
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A teenage boy doesn't care about a betrayal of trust because trust is not usually a relevant issue in deciding with whom he will have sex. Availability and attractiveness are pretty well the only criteria important to a teenage boy (and quite a few men, for that matter). I think this is the root of the double standard - a man can't empathize with the "victim" if it is a boy, as he knows that he would have done the same thing as the boy and been glad of it.

However, a male teacher seducing a female student is taking advantage of and violating the trust that has developed, and she is likely to be deeply hurt by the exploitation of that vulnerability, whether she realizes it or not. Obviously neither is an iron rule - I'm sure there are teenage boys who form a deep emotional attachment within a teacher-student relationship, and teenage girls who remain emotionally disengaged while physically engaged.

This is not to say that the legal consequences should be different between the sexes. However, I question the advisability of having any legal consequences at all for consensual sex between adults, as the students in this case apparently were.

-edit- although I fully support such teachers losing their jobs and any benefits (pension, etc) accrued from that job due to violation of policy. Not everything needs to be punished by the law, economic punishments and social ostracism can be sufficient.
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