Breaking Bad

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by psicodude

Anything other than killing the kid would have ruined the story, IMO. I didn't realize it at the time, but the past few episodes have been building up to that scene. Mike talking about the house fumigation crew and saying how professional they are and never leave untied ends. Mike's line saying "There are 2 types of jobs - ones where the guys get away with it, and one with witnesses".

It just made nothing but sense for "Landry's" first reaction to be to whip out the pistol and waste the kid without even a second thought. In my mind at least, that's what a real professional would do. It just further pushes along the fact that Walt and Jessie are no longer 2 wannabe dudes cooking in a basement somewhere and are now playing with the big boys.

All of that being said, however, it was a disturbing scene considering all of the effort they just went through to avoid killing the train engineer and conductor.

Very cold. Especially the way he waved back at him before pulling out his gun.

[Wormius]

Funny though, Skyler was right with the "burying bodies" quip.

[d_phaneuf]

speaking of that

I loved the way Walt said "robbing a train"

he was so proud of himself

[Huntingwhale]

Amazing episode. I don't think I've ever felt such worry from watching a scene as I did the train robbery. Unreal. Popping the kid was just...f'd right up. Just when I thought the perfect caper was pulled, Todd goes and does that.

I also found the discussion between Skylar and Walk disturbing. I got the feeling that Walt just ''sold'' his kids in order to keep making meth. Unreal.

And I found myself cracking up with laughter during the scene with Lydia and the boys talking about what to do with her, then it not being her fault the tracking device was found. Hilarious.

[metallicat]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Funny though, Skyler was right with the "burying bodies" quip.

Oh man, for some reason I didn't even clue in to th fact that they probably buries the guy in one of the holes. Wowzers.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by psicodude

Anything other than killing the kid would have ruined the story, IMO. I didn't realize it at the time, but the past few episodes have been building up to that scene. Mike talking about the house fumigation crew and saying how professional they are and never leave untied ends. Mike's line saying "There are 2 types of jobs - ones where the guys get away with it, and one with witnesses".

It just made nothing but sense for "Landry's" first reaction to be to whip out the pistol and waste the kid without even a second thought. In my mind at least, that's what a real professional would do. It just further pushes along the fact that Walt and Jessie are no longer 2 wannabe dudes cooking in a basement somewhere and are now playing with the big boys.

All of that being said, however, it was a disturbing scene considering all of the effort they just went through to avoid killing the train engineer and conductor.

Pretty shocking. I was almsot at the point where I thought Landry was going to turn out to be a NARC. He just seemed a little too into the job for someone on the bottom rung probably being paid peanuts. Apparently, he's just a psycho though.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Superflyer

It's funny my biggest thing with this episode was all the dirt Walt spilled into the tanks. He is always so concerned about having a pure product we even spent an entire episode with him trying to kill a fly in the lab. You would think he would have had them setup better so that dirt would not fall into them.

This bugged me too, hard to believe Walt would have let all that dirt fall in the tank.

Originally Posted by Wormius

Now they have to deal with a dead body and possibly people coming out searching for this missing kid, and seeing fresh pile of disturbed dirt where they buried the containers would set off alarm flags and those would get unburied.

Pretty sure Mike will have no problem dealing with the body and the bike.

Spoiler!

Although I wonder if they might overlook the jar with the spider?

Even if someone sees that a hole had been dug there won't be any other evidence, I'm sure they are going to remove the tanks.

[Wormius]

I thought they were going to leave the containers there and take the chemical as required and fill up again when needed.

For that much methylamine, the contamination from the dirt wouldn't amount to much, and just fall to the bottom as sediment anyway.

It does show that Walt is not the perfectionist he once was. Also just thinking that both Walt and Jesse have almost the same skill-sets now, so either would be able to get along without the other.

[Mightyfire89]

Maybe just me, but I'm not certain the kid is dead.

What an astoundingly good show.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Wormius

I thought they were going to leave the containers there and take the chemical as required and fill up again when needed.

Don't think they could get away with stopping another train without raising suspicion. I think they are planning to cook for awhile with this methylamine so that the DEA will think they've found another supplier and move on from the Madrigal warehouse. If they were planning on leaving the tanks you would think they would bury them deeper?

[WindomURL]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

I also like how Jesse has evolved into the brains of the outfit. He is one coming up with all the great ideas, and solving the issues Walt used to take care of in his more brutal manner.

I was actually thinking why didn't they find a way to switch out the methylamine with something, as that seemed like the best way to get the job done.

Totally agree with what you say about Jesse. Not only that, but Aaron Paul does something amazing that I just noticed on my 4th(!) rewatch.

Spoiler!

In the scene where Jesse comes up with the idea on how to steal the methylamine undetected, watch what he's doing while Walt and Mike are arguing back and forth.

Gah, I'm not sure if I can type out an understandable description but here goes...

He's doing that thing where you plug the top opening of a drinking straw with your finger, lift it out of your cup so that the liquid is suspended in the straw, then watch the liquid pour out as you release your finger. I'm sure most of you have done this at some time. As he does it over and over again while listening to Walt and Mike, watch Jesse closely.
You can practically "see" his idle actions turning into his brilliant idea on the spot.

Maybe I'm alone thinking this, but that's Emmy award worthy stuff right there!

[BlackEleven]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Don't think they could get away with stopping another train without raising suspicion. I think they are planning to cook for awhile with this methylamine so that the DEA will think they've found another supplier and move on from the Madrigal warehouse. If they were planning on leaving the tanks you would think they would bury them deeper?

I don't think he meant rob another train, I think he meant leave the methylamine in the buried tank and just go back to it and fill a barrel or two at a time as need dictates.

I was wondering about that myself. I'm not sure how far that spot is from where they cook, but it might be hard to hide a 1000 gallon (~4000L) tank full of methylamine in any of the locations they currently have access to.

[BlackEleven]

Originally Posted by WindomURL

Totally agree with what you say about Jesse. Not only that, but Aaron Paul does something amazing that I just noticed on my 4th(!) rewatch.

Spoiler!

In the scene where Jesse comes up with the idea on how to steal the methylamine undetected, watch what he's doing while Walt and Mike are arguing back and forth.

Gah, I'm not sure if I can type out an understandable description but here goes...

He's doing that thing where you plug the top opening of a drinking straw with your finger, lift it out of your cup so that the liquid is suspended in the straw, then watch the liquid pour out as you release your finger. I'm sure most of you have done this at some time. As he does it over and over again while listening to Walt and Mike, watch Jesse closely.
You can practically "see" his idle actions turning into his brilliant idea on the spot.

Maybe I'm alone thinking this, but that's Emmy award worthy stuff right there!

I noticed this too. I was also doing something similar when he came up with the magnet idea.

It's interesting how Jesse is turning into the old Walt -- the moral guy that comes up with good ideas -- and Walt is turning into the old Jesse -- misanthropic and immoral.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by BlackEleven

I noticed this too. I was also doing something similar when he came up with the magnet idea.

It's interesting how Jesse is turning into the old Walt -- the moral guy that comes up with good ideas -- and Walt is turning into the old Jesse -- misanthropic and immoral.

It is pretty cool, but it also makes sense. In the first season, Walt made a comment about how Jesse was brilliant student but lacked guidance. In later episodes, Jesse seemed the happiest when they would pull off some type of endeavor based on science (Yay! Science!).

[blankall]

Originally Posted by BlackEleven

I don't think he meant rob another train, I think he meant leave the methylamine in the buried tank and just go back to it and fill a barrel or two at a time as need dictates.

I was wondering about that myself. I'm not sure how far that spot is from where they cook, but it might be hard to hide a 1000 gallon (~4000L) tank full of methylamine in any of the locations they currently have access to.

Could they not store it in the same truck the used to fill the undreground tank with water?

The area seemed somewhat high traffic to me. There was the dirtbike kid, also the truck that came and pushed them off the railtracks. It seems as though someone would stumble across the Methylamine if it was just in the dessert and only burried a few inches below the ground. You also run the risk of getting caught when you go out to the dessert to fill up.

Makes much more sense to just have the Methylamine in the truck in some building or garage somewhere. Then take barrels out of it as you need them.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by RW99

Great episode, I swear this show is at best 20 minutes long. Though I do have two minor issues with it. First, who lets their 12yr old dirt bike around the desert by themselves... and Two, I like how they have their 'private' conversation 6 feet from Lydia

Lots and lots of people who have a rural, outdoor lifestyle. I wasn't much for dirtbikes, but I was out doing all kinds of stuff that could be construed as dangerous way before I was 12.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by BlackEleven

I was wondering about that myself. I'm not sure how far that spot is from where they cook, but it might be hard to hide a 1000 gallon (~4000L) tank full of methylamine in any of the locations they currently have access to.

A 1000 gallon tank probably wouldn't look out of place at the pest control company.

or put it into relabeled barrels.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Jacks

A 1000 gallon tank probably wouldn't look out of place at the pest control company.

or put it into relabeled barrels.

Yup.

This is what a 1000 galon tank looks like:

http://www.dimensionsinfo.com/wp-con...allon-Tank.jpg

That could easily be stored anywhere. Especially if you own a pesticide company.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by blankall

Yup.

This is what a 1000 galon tank looks like:

http://www.dimensionsinfo.com/wp-con...allon-Tank.jpg

That could easily be stored anywhere. Especially if you own a pesticide company.

If they had that, they could have just parked that underneath the train bridge without anybody seeing it, and driven off after without having to dig it up again. Which makes me curious, how much would that weigh when full? I can just imagine them screwing up and piercing the side of it when excavating, unless of coure they just pump it out into something else and remove the container when it's empty.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by BlackEleven

I noticed this too. I was also doing something similar when he came up with the magnet idea.

It's interesting how Jesse is turning into the old Walt -- the moral guy that comes up with good ideas -- and Walt is turning into the old Jesse -- misanthropic and immoral.

I don't believe that Jesse,even at his worst, was anywhere close to being as bad as Walt is now. Jesse seemed to have a conscience through those times, even when he was getting people re-addicted to meth.

By the way, anybody notice a change in Jesse/Aaron Paul's appearance this season? His face looks kind of like he just had his widsom teeth pulled out or something.