The Dark Knight Rises: July 20, 2012

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

I think The Dark Knight angle has been done enough now, I would like to see someone take on a more classic role of Batman.. silver age almost, not quite Adam West silver age but somewhere inbetween.

It'd be neat to see a Batman set in the 60's or 70's..

Pass. if i wanted to see that i would just watch austin powers over and over again.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Gordon may still think the original (Bruce Wayne) Batman is dead. The new bat-signal could be for Blake's Batman.

Blake's batman hasn't made an appearance in gotham yet so i doubt it's for him.

and if they do make a sequel with him in it he would be nightwing. I don't want him to be robin. unless you want to see blake in green gymnastic tight shorts.

How awesome would it be to have John Lithgow as the next villain for Gordon-Levitt's character.

[Komskies]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Already put this in the funny pics thread but it should be here to. Didn't check for data. Hope not.

It's like the fortune cookie I got with my lunch today:

"You will gain admiration from your pears."

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Blake's batman hasn't made an appearance in gotham yet so i doubt it's for him.

and if they do make a sequel with him in it he would be nightwing. I don't want him to be robin. unless you want to see blake in green gymnastic tight shorts.

How awesome would it be to have John Lithgow as the next villain for Gordon-Levitt's character.

Yeah I agree, he should be Nightwing if they do, in fact, carry it on. He was already "Robin" throughout TDKR.

[MarchHare]

I'm pretty sure we won't be seeing any sequels or follow-ups to this. Nolan has said he's done and wants to move on to other projects, and he ended his trilogy in a way that wraps things up nicely. WB will probably take 5-6 years off and then create a new series of Batman films with another creative team.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

I'm pretty sure we won't be seeing any sequels or follow-ups to this. Nolan has said he's done and wants to move on to other projects, and he ended his trilogy in a way that wraps things up nicely. WB will probably take 5-6 years off and then create a new series of Batman films with another creative team.

Not a perfect source but heard Kevin Smith say last night that WB has said they will do a reboot in 4 years.

As for nightwing, I'm not sure whether Nolan can stop WB if they choose to go that route. It isn't like he owns the characters or likenesses. Whether WB would even do it without him is another question entirely.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

I thought the very end was kinda cheesy, like him ending up with Catwoman in Florence like Alfred always hoped.

You do realize that wasn't coincidence, right?

[Senator Clay Davis]

I hope the disappointment of the Spider-Man reboot will give WB second thoughts about rushing into another reboot here. I hope they wait at least 5 years and preferably 10 before they come back to Batman. Let us enjoy the trilogy we just had before we automatically jump into something else.

[GreenLantern]

I think it has already been said a few times in this thread but multiple comic book sites have reported that the plan is to make a JLA movie for 2015 and spin off individual movies for each character, including Batman. Sort of like a reverse Avengers strategy.

Things can change between now and then but so far that is the official word..

The success of Man of Steel might change things however, and they decide they want to build the JLA universe around this movie.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I hope the disappointment of the Spider-Man reboot will give WB second thoughts about rushing into another reboot here.

Disappointment? It's grossed $680M and allowed them to keep the franchise rights.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I hope the disappointment of the Spider-Man reboot will give WB second thoughts about rushing into another reboot here. I hope they wait at least 5 years and preferably 10 before they come back to Batman. Let us enjoy the trilogy we just had before we automatically jump into something else.

Agreed. If they do want to do one as soon as 5 years I think it should try to be a continuation as the feelings of the Dark Knight saga will still be lingering, and honestly while I was wwathcing it for the second time last night I kept thinking the next person that has to try and make a Batman movie has their work cut out for them.

Why did a Spiderman Reboot get made? One reason, the 3rd one was such a load a crap they needed to completely reset, and had to do it within their contractual time constraints. The reboot of Batman came because Batman & Robin was so bad that I can still smell its stink. Now WB has to ask themself, Was TDKR bad? No, it was awesome and most people agree. Nolan has changed the way an entire generation of people see Batman and if they reboot it in a few years with a new tone and new cast they will be going after largely the same demographic before. A demographic that might not be keen to see a new version of Batman when they were so keen on the others.

Even the idea rebooting of Spiderman so soon was met with skepticism and most people wer pissed about #3. Although I have to disagree with you about the quality of the reboot, I thought it was way better than any of the other 3. Spiderman 2 was good, but looking back, the casting of the main two characters was just way off the mark.

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

I think it has already been said a few times in this thread but multiple comic book sites have reported that the plan is to make a JLA movie for 2015 and spin off individual movies for each character, including Batman. Sort of like a reverse Avengers strategy.

Things can change between now and then but so far that is the official word..

The success of Man of Steel might change things however, and they decide they want to build the JLA universe around this movie.

When I was watching the trailer for Man of Steel last night I was thinking about how much more I would rather see a Superman vs Batman movie in the same established Batman universe than a JLA movie.

[Senator Clay Davis]

The Spider-Man reboot was a reaction to them outright rejecting a Spider-Man 4, saying rather than continue with what had become a weak series after the third one, they chose to simply start over.

Disappointment? It's grossed $680M and allowed them to keep the franchise rights.

I suppose it's all relative. But people from Sony and Marvel both expected this to earn in line or close to what Spider-Man 3 earned, but obviously it didn't do that, coming up some $200 million short of that goal. In that regard, it was a disappointment for the studio. The box-office reaction also suggests the movie going public didn't necessarily want a new Spider-Man series.

[GreenLantern]

I think the only option here is pretty obvious, convince Nolan to direct the Justice League movie.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

The Spider-Man reboot was a reaction to them outright rejecting a Spider-Man 4, saying rather than continue with what had become a weak series after the third one, they chose to simply start over.

I suppose it's all relative. But people from Sony and Marvel both expected this to earn in line or close to what Spider-Man 3 earned, but obviously it didn't do that, coming up some $200 million short of that goal. In that regard, it was a disappointment for the studio. The box-office reaction also suggests the movie going public didn't necessarily want a new Spider-Man series.

I highly doubt the studio expected to beat out the follow-up movie to what was (at the time) considered to be one of, if not the best superhero movie ever which also happened to hold the record for the biggest opening at the time. They're expectations would have been way out to lunch if that was the case. The studio has made ~500 million from the movie. Oh darn, what a disappointment.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I think Nolan could write the JL movie (with his brother and David Goyer), but I think he wants to move on to directing other films. Apparently he would love to do a Bond movie, and I would personally love to see him directing a Bond movie.

Originally Posted by MattyC

I highly doubt the studio expected to beat out the follow-up movie to what was (at the time) considered to be one of, if not the best superhero movie ever which also happened to hold the record for the biggest opening at the time. They're expectations would have been way out to lunch if that was the case. The studio has made ~500 million from the movie. Oh darn, what a disappointment.

Again its all relative. Is it actually a disappointment? Of course not, but if you make less than you expected, even if you still made a ton, you're going to be at least somewhat disappointed.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

I think the only option here is pretty obvious, convince Nolan to direct the Justice League movie.

Oh god, please no.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by MattyC

When I was watching the trailer for Man of Steel last night I was thinking about how much more I would rather see a Superman vs Batman movie in the same established Batman universe than a JLA movie.

Not sure it would work in that universe unless they toned down Superman and his powers a lot. That could be cool, but I could see the studios being worried about affecting the Superman image too much.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Again its all relative. Is it actually a disappointment? Of course not, but if you make less than you expected, even if you still made a ton, you're going to be at least somewhat disappointed.

Yes, but what I am saying is that I can't see a scenario where the studio actually thought that Amazing Spiderman would outgross Spiderman 3. Regardless of its quality, riding the coatails of Spiderman 2 was enough to make a buttload of money. While Amazing Spiderman was a reboot met with skepticism and followed the franchise-killing Spiderman 3. I just really doubt anyone at Sony thought they were going to outgross Spiderman 3, even if they said so publically.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by SebC

Disappointment? It's grossed $680M and allowed them to keep the franchise rights.

...and it's easily the best Spider-Man movie ever made. Sooo much better than those turds that Raimi & Seabiscuit made.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I don't know, I mean the original Spider-Man opened so huge (breaking almost all the BO opening records at the time) I can see why they would expect it to perform well. Plus obviously Marvel was on some kind of roll coming into this movie that you can't blame them for shooting for the moon.

I think where Sony and Marvel ultimately failed is in selling the ASM as being radically different than the other Spider-Man series. Most of the ads made it look like it wasn't all that different except for new faces in old places. Because it didn't seem that dissimilar to the other Spider-Man movies, I think those who didn't like Spider-Man 3 felt this movie was unjustified.

For the record, I thought the ASM was probably better than all the Raimi movies (well not SM2), but concede it simply wasn't justified so soon.