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Old 08-07-2012, 11:12 AM   #21
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Abby Wambach intimidated the referee into the call. Embarrassing.

http://tdn.com/sports/olympics/abby-...a510f8987.html

Not surprising that amateurs have to resort to such tactics.

Professionals have respect for each other. We see it every day.
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:17 AM   #22
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Abby Wambach intimidated the referee into the call. Embarrassing.

http://tdn.com/sports/olympics/abby-...a510f8987.html
"Crucial assist". I don't think that's anything to be proud of. Again, not because she's American. It could be any team or any country, including my own.
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Not surprising that amateurs have to resort to such tactics.

Professionals have respect for each other. We see it every day.
Yeah professional soccer players always show the utmost respect...

Oh and if Abby Wambach isn't a professional women's player, who is?

And if they are holding on to the ball too long over and over again I would expect a call to be made. Professional goalies don't usually do that.
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"Crucial assist". I don't think that's anything to be proud of. Again, not because she's American. It could be any team or any country, including my own.
It's win at all costs. If you are ok with Canadians diving around the field then you shouldn't be upset with Wombat counting.
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:22 AM   #25
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It's win at all costs. If you are ok with Canadians diving around the field then you shouldn't be upset with Wombat counting.
This has nothing to do with diving or the country involved, but that's just me.
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:23 AM   #26
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Yeah professional soccer players always show the utmost respect...

Oh and if Abby Wambach isn't a professional women's player, who is?
of course they respect each other. They help each other up. They kick the ball out of play when a player gets hurt and the ball is returned. (you think the amateurs invented that?) You saw the Americans yesterday try to play when both Americans or Canadians were down. The ref had no control.

Professional women's player is a very loose term.

We both watch EPL and international soccer. It's the greatest spectacle in the world because the players are awesome.

Yes there's diving and conning of the ref but most of the time, the refs are onto it and the player (Suarez) just looks like an idiot and he is the only person in the ENTIRE Olympics in any sport that gets booed.
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:24 AM   #27
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During the second half, with the U.S. frantically trying to speed up the game while attempting multiple comebacks, Wambach began running near referee Christiana Pedersen and counting off the seconds that McLeod held the ball. She said she often got to 10 and into even the teens.

McLeod was playing with fire.
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"Crucial assist". I don't think that's anything to be proud of. Again, not because she's American. It could be any team or any country, including my own.
I don't know.. if you're playing in the game and since the 1st half, the opposition goalie is holding the ball for 15+ seconds with the lead!? Wouldn't you mention it to the ref?
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I don't know.. if you're playing in the game and since the 1st half, the opposition goalie is holding the ball for 15+ seconds with the lead!? Wouldn't you mention it to the ref?
Probably. I wouldn't mention it post-game though.
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NHL refs are also pros and the best in the world. Olympic refs are hungry.

We like the Olympics but in the end, it doesn't really matter. It's a once very 4 years joyful adventure.

This isn't the Calgary Flames.
So the Flames are more important than international level play? I love the Flames but really no sports matters in the grand scheme of things. Regardless of what it is, when it is, or how often it is most people won't remember in the long run with obviously a few exceptions that pertain to your team or country.


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Not surprising that amateurs have to resort to such tactics.

Professionals have respect for each other. We see it every day.
Wambach is a professional. Most of those girls play pro football/soccer.

I have no problems with her telling the ref, hockey players do it all the time. The Canadian coach tried the same thing by indicating that the Americans use illegal tactics inside the penalty box all the time. In the end it's up to the ref to ignore the players and make the correct call. She was unfluenced by a player and made a call really that no one calls at that level. To me that shows an amateur ref that shouldn't be refing at that level if you can be strong armed like that and then on top of it made a terrible call on a handball. To me that was the worst call of all. None of us would be saying anything about that call if she didn't call the handball giving them the penalty shot.
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:33 AM   #31
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Probably. I wouldn't mention it post-game though.
Wouldn't you want to somewhat protect the ref who in the end made the right decision?

/the penalty was still bogus though.
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Wouldn't you want to somewhat protect the ref who in the end made the right decision?

/the penalty was still bogus though.
If she made the right decision, she wouldn't need protection from the players.

But yes, it's a moot point now anyways.
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So the Flames are more important than international level play? I love the Flames but really no sports matters in the grand scheme of things. Regardless of what it is, when it is, or how often it is most people won't remember in the long run with obviously a few exceptions that pertain to your team or country.




Wambach is a professional. Most of those girls play pro football/soccer.

I have no problems with her telling the ref, hockey players do it all the time. The Canadian coach tried the same thing by indicating that the Americans use illegal tactics inside the penalty box all the time. In the end it's up to the ref to ignore the players and make the correct call. She was unfluenced by a player and made a call really that no one calls at that level. To me that shows an amateur ref that shouldn't be refing at that level if you can be strong armed like that and then on top of it made a terrible call on a handball. To me that was the worst call of all. None of us would be saying anything about that call if she didn't call the handball giving them the penalty shot.

The Flames matter. Couple break up over the Flames! People remember the most intricate details. There's a discussion of the 7th round draft pick! See FoI board

She IS an amateur ref and women's soccer is really at an amateur level. I found the whole thing from the Canadian coach playing the press, to Hope Solo's comments to the ref all amateurish.

Remember the women's hockey final in Salt Lake and the 'amateurish' job the ref did that day?

Until money is pumped into any women's sport (like tennis) these sports are going nowhere.
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During the second half, with the U.S. frantically trying to speed up the game while attempting multiple comebacks, Wambach began running near referee Christiana Pedersen and counting off the seconds that McLeod held the ball. She said she often got to 10 and into even the teens.

McLeod was playing with fire.
She is almost annoying as Han Solo. I hope she gets her ass benched for the bronze medal game.
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FIFA is looking into Canada’s controversial loss to U.S. in Olympic semi-final

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/...medium=twitter
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Gold Medalist swimmer admits to cheating

This is why there should not be 20 different styles of swimming.

Everyone wants to go faster, but you're basically tying one arm behind a swimmer's back and seeing how fast they can go there. Because of that, everyone's going to try to "cheat" the stroke, and be as close to the fastest type as possible.

There should only varying distances and relays, but only in freestyle. Do whatever you want to go as fast as possible.
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http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/...medium=twitter
that article states that FIFA is only looking into events that occurred after the match had concluded, which likely means all the comments made by the Canadian players against the ref. just like the NHL, FIFA will not hold their officials accountable and find ways to penalize the players instead
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Sounds like that has more to do with player/coach comments after the game than anything.
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FIFA is looking into Canada’s controversial loss to U.S. in Olympic semi-final

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the FIFA Disciplinary Committee is currently analyzing incidents that occurred after the conclusion of the match,”
Based on that I'm thinking that it isn't bad referreeing that they're looking into.
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that article states that FIFA is only looking into events that occurred after the match had concluded, which likely means all the comments made by the Canadian players against the ref. just like the NHL, FIFA will not hold their officials accountable and find ways to penalize the players instead
Yup. Easy way out I would say.
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