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		|  08-03-2012, 07:07 AM | #1 |  
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				 Flames d-man Clay Wilson to KHL 
 
			
			Rob Kerr is reporting that Clay Wilson has accepted a contract in the khl. Now this may actually be a good thing given the log jam at the blue line. No terms have been released but i believe this means that his rights still belong to the flames when his contract expires.
 If it's one year in the khl and he has a good year this might be a very good thing for the flames next season.
 
 
 oh and hey one less contract
 
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		|  08-03-2012, 07:10 AM | #2 |  
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			Lets hope he blossoms.
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		|  08-03-2012, 07:10 AM | #3 |  
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			Yeah, this is a good move for Clay and good news for Calgary. Best of luck to him over there, and hopefully he can improve his game and keep close ties with the Flames organization.
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		|  08-03-2012, 07:18 AM | #4 |  
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			Good move for Wilson, decent new for the Flames, bad news for the Heat.  
 He was a tweener for the NHL, but he drove a lot of the Heat's offense (from what I remember).
 
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		|  08-03-2012, 07:29 AM | #5 |  
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					Originally Posted by kirant  Good move for Wilson, decent new for the Flames, bad news for the Heat.  
 He was a tweener for the NHL, but he drove a lot of the Heat's offense (from what I remember).
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yeah sucks for the heat, but we gotta think about the mothership here in calgary, i'd rather have a better wilson next year.
 
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		|  08-03-2012, 07:33 AM | #6 |  
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			So that leaves us with:
 Bouw
 Gio
 Wideman
 Butler
 Sarich
 Brodie
 Babchuk
 Smith
 Carson
 
 With Brodie being the only two-way contract. I think if Feaster can move Babchuk he will do it otherwise I could see Brodie starting in the AHL this season even though I think he's ready for the big club and would like to see him start with the Flames this year. I can't see Bouwmeester getting moved at this point in time, it just doesn't seem like an option.
 
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 Bouwmeester - Wideman
 Giordano - Butler
 Sarich - Smith
 Babchuk
 
 Brodie - minors
 Carson - minors/waivers
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		|  08-03-2012, 07:37 AM | #7 |  
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			Eliteprospects lists the team he signed with as Donbass Donetsk.
		 
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		|  08-03-2012, 07:44 AM | #8 |  
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		| Sportsnet 960 @Sportsnet960 Former Calgary Flames defenseman Clay Wilson has signed one-year deal with Donbass Donetsk of the KHL. Wilson appeared in 5 games for the Flames last season. He played in 66 games for the Abbotsford Heat scoring 16 goals and adding 27 assists. He was also a plus 9.
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		|  08-03-2012, 07:51 AM | #9 |  
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		| oh and hey one less contract |  
not sure this is true. Nilsson, Kronwall and Ortio, for example all counted when they left for Europe
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		|  08-03-2012, 08:27 AM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by Canada 02  not sure this is true. Nilsson, Kronwall and Ortio, for example all counted when they left for Europe |  
well damn....they said it on the fan though.... oh dear
		 
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		|  08-03-2012, 08:30 AM | #11 |  
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					Originally Posted by Heavy Jack  So that leaves us with:
 Bouw
 Gio
 Wideman
 Butler
 Sarich
 Brodie
 Babchuk
 Smith
 Carson
 
 With Brodie being the only two-way contract. I think if Feaster can move Babchuk he will do it otherwise I could see Brodie starting in the AHL this season even though I think he's ready for the big club and would like to see him start with the Flames this year. I can't see Bouwmeester getting moved at this point in time, it just doesn't seem like an option.
 
 Starting D looks like:
 
 Bouwmeester - Wideman
 Giordano - Butler
 Sarich - Smith
 Babchuk
 
 Brodie - minors
 Carson - minors/waivers
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		|  08-03-2012, 08:38 AM | #12 |  
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					Originally Posted by handgroen  well damn....they said it on the fan though.... oh dear |  
there is a situation where a player can be released, and the team free of the contract. This happened to JD Watt two years ago. Perhaps Wilson asked for unconditional release. simply going to Europe does not necessarily cancel the contract
		 
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		|  08-03-2012, 08:44 AM | #13 |  
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					Originally Posted by handgroen  well damn....they said it on the fan though.... oh dear |  
It all depends if the Flames have given him permission to play in the KHL. If they haven't and he refuses to report to camp they have 2 options.
 Suspend him without pay and file a request to force him to play out his contract if he ever returns to the NHLPlace him on unconditional waivers and when he clears terminate his contract with a mutual agreement like the Wild did to Petr Sykora and we did to JD Watt
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		|  08-03-2012, 08:47 AM | #14 |  
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					Originally Posted by Canada 02  there is a situation where a player can be released, and the team free of the contract. This happened to JD Watt two years ago. Perhaps Wilson asked for unconditional release. simply going to Europe does not necessarily cancel the contract |  
If that were the case, he would have had to pass through $125 waivers first, and he would have been made an unrestricted free agent, so we'd lose his rights.
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		|  08-03-2012, 08:47 AM | #15 |  
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					Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef  It all depends if the Flames have given him permission to play in the KHL. If they haven't and he refuses to report to camp they have 2 options. Suspend him without pay and file a request to force him to play out his contract if he ever returns to the NHLPlace him on unconditional waivers and when he clears terminate his contract with a mutual agreement like the Wild did to Petr Sykora and we did to JD Watt
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Route 2 is known as "$152 Waivers," after the amount of money it costs to nullify a contract.
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		|  08-03-2012, 09:21 AM | #16 |  
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			Not sure i understand why this is "good news"?
 Wouldn't it have been better to have one of the better dmen on the heat back?
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		|  08-03-2012, 09:22 AM | #17 |  
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					Originally Posted by bubbsy  Not sure i understand why this is "good news"?
 Wouldn't it have been better to have one of the better dmen on the heat back?
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His deal becomes one way this year, so certainly this gives the Flames some budget relief (and perhaps cap relief - I don't know how that all works when a signed player decides to go overseas).
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		|  08-03-2012, 09:24 AM | #18 |  
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					Originally Posted by JiriHrdina  His deal becomes one way this year, so certainly this gives the Flames some budget relief (and perhaps cap relief - I don't know how that all works when a signed player decides to go overseas). |  
And perhaps frees up a contract from our 50 contract max.
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		|  08-03-2012, 09:43 AM | #19 |  
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			If he has a contract, how does he sign another one with another team?
		 
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		|  08-03-2012, 09:45 AM | #20 |  
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			I am probably way off on this but since he decided to sign with a KHL team does that nullify his current contract with the Flames?
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