I've never been to Montana, but I grew up in New Brunswick, have spent ample time travelling in Maine, and have lived in Calgary for the last ten years. I can therefore say this with some authority: I've always felt felt much more "at home" in Alberta than I did in Maine. While New Brunswick and Maine may have some similar socio-economic traits, there's something entirely distinct about the people and politics when you cross the border. Despite being much smaller, Saint John and Moncton feel more like Calgary than they do like similarly-sized Maine cities of Portland and Bangor. One tends to notice little differences, and I was always acutely aware that I was in a foreign land while visiting Maine, a sensation I never experienced in Alberta.
And the same can be said for a Calgarian who has spent half his life in Vancouver.
Though they share almost identical climates, socio-economic conditions and geography, the difference between Vancouver and Seattle is perceptible in even the most brief conversations with people from those cities. Portland can be included as well.
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No, its just that you won't shut up. We get it, guns don't kill people, people kill people. What you are saying is neither new or clever, just annoyingly repetitive.
Move on?
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I think you just summarized all 40 pages of this thread.
A lot of it, due to you. No surprise. I honestly stopped following after page 5 and just check this thread for updates, not see how many examples tijinaz can find of "guns don't kill people, people kill people."
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Because... it is all about the weapon used and not the crazy person.
Perhaps you didn't realize that people in Canada are prohibited from possessing a number of types of knives, in particular those types of knives which are specifically designed as weapons and are easy to conceal (such as butterfly knives and switchblades.). It is also a criminal offence to carry a concealed knife with a blade longer than x. I imagine that everyone in this thread who supports gun control also supports this type of knife control. So what is your point?
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I've never been to Montana, but I grew up in New Brunswick, have spent ample time travelling in Maine, and have lived in Calgary for the last ten years. I can therefore say this with some authority: I've always felt felt much more "at home" in Alberta than I did in Maine. While New Brunswick and Maine may have some similar socio-economic traits, there's something entirely distinct about the people and politics when you cross the border. Despite being much smaller, Saint John and Moncton feel more like Calgary than they do like similarly-sized Maine cities of Portland and Bangor. One tends to notice little differences, and I was always acutely aware that I was in a foreign land while visiting Maine, a sensation I never experienced in Alberta.
That's what's great about different perspectives from different people. While I've never lived out east, through work I've met many people from all over including both Montana and the Martimes, I've also spent time in Montana .
I found there to be more common ground between the Albertans and Montanans as in interests, way of life, more conservative way of thinking. While I can't compare the cities out east to Montana's because I've never been...I do think Billings has a lot of similarities to Leithbridge and the Hat... I'm guessing more so than Moncton or Saint John would, perhaps not Calgary though.
Maybe its more of a rural - urban as well who knows.
Violent crimes are growing more common in China. There was a string of knife attacks against schoolchildren across the country in early 2010 that killed nearly 20 and wounded more than 50.
How many more would have been killed and wounded in China, if guns were widely available?
Well probably negative 20. Because everyone knows you don't bring a knife to a gun fight.
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That's what's great about different perspectives from different people. While I've never lived out east, through work I've met many people from all over including both Montana and the Martimes, I've also spent time in Montana .
I found there to be more common ground between the Albertans and Montanans as in interests, way of life, more conservative way of thinking. While I can't compare the cities out east to Montana's because I've never been...I do think Billings has a lot of similarities to Leithbridge and the Hat... I'm guessing more so than Moncton or Saint John would, perhaps not Calgary though.
Maybe its more of a rural - urban as well who knows.
It's almost certainly a rural-urban divide. I'd even say that someone from Oyen, AB would have more in common with the people of Hartland, NB than they would with Calgarians or Edmontonians.
Perhaps you didn't realize that people in Canada are prohibited from possessing a number of types of knives, in particular those types of knives which are specifically designed as weapons and are easy to conceal (such as butterfly knives and switchblades.). It is also a criminal offence to carry a concealed knife with a blade longer than x. I imagine that everyone in this thread who supports gun control also supports this type of knife control. So what is your point?
Did you know China also bans certain types of knives? I wonder if the killer used an illegal knife or a legal one or if the concept of an Illegal knife even crossed his mind while he set about stabbing people.
I also learned that spiked wristbands are banned in Canada? . You can have a giant knife such as the one used to decapitate the person on the Greyhound bus, it is perfectly legal. Do they frisk all the Metal bands and skate punks before entering the country looking for suspicious spiked wristbands?
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Certain knives are designated as 'prohibited weapons' pursuant to the Criminal Code of Canada. Section 84(1) defines such knives as "a knife that has a blade that opens automatically by gravity or centrifugal force or by hand pressure applied to a button, spring or other device attached to or in the handle of the knife".[7][8] By law, only those who have been granted exemption by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police via the Canadian Firearms Program are allowed to possess (but not acquire) prohibited weapons.
If one is found to be in unauthorized possession of prohibited weapon by any law enforcement officer, he or she is liable to maximum of 5 years in jail and the weapon being seized. The peace officer can then apply to a provincial court judge for the said weapon to be forfeited and be disposed as he or she sees fit. The import and export of such devices are also strictly regulated and enforced by the Canada Border Services Agency.[9]
Examples of such knives include:[10]
One-handed opening knives have been designated as legal to import by Canada Border Services as long as they don't fall into one of the prohibited categories.
There is no length restriction on carrying knives within the Criminal Code of Canada; the only restriction is for concealed carry. China
Due to concerns about potential violence at the 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing, China is beginning to restrict "dangerous knives", requiring that purchasers register with the government when purchasing these knives. Included in the new restrictions are knives with "blood grooves", lockblade knives, knives with blades measuring over 22 cm (8.6 in) in length, and knives with blades over 15 cm in length also having a point angle of less than 60 degrees.[11][12] As of January 2011, according to an authorized Leatherman dealer in Beijing all knives with a locking blade are illegal unless they are part of a larger multi-tool like a leatherman.[citation needed] However, many people still carry locking pocket knives especially when camping with no issues. He suggested carrying locking knives in checked luggage on airplanes, and on your person in trains and subways since they could be confiscated if found in a bag. Foreigners are generally given a bit more leeway in China so if a traveler is caught with a small knife there will probably be no prosecution and at most confiscation.[citation needed]
Did you know China also bans certain types of knives? I wonder if the killer used an illegal knife or a legal one or if the concept of an Illegal knife even crossed his mind while he set about stabbing people.
I also learned that spiked wristbands are banned in Canada? . You can have a giant knife such as the one used to decapitate the person on the Greyhound bus, it is perfectly legal. Do they frisk all the Metal bands and skate punks before entering the country looking for suspicious spiked wristbands?
From wiki
Canada
Certain knives are designated as 'prohibited weapons' pursuant to the Criminal Code of Canada. Section 84(1) defines such knives as "a knife that has a blade that opens automatically by gravity or centrifugal force or by hand pressure applied to a button, spring or other device attached to or in the handle of the knife".[7][8] By law, only those who have been granted exemption by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police via the Canadian Firearms Program are allowed to possess (but not acquire) prohibited weapons.
If one is found to be in unauthorized possession of prohibited weapon by any law enforcement officer, he or she is liable to maximum of 5 years in jail and the weapon being seized. The peace officer can then apply to a provincial court judge for the said weapon to be forfeited and be disposed as he or she sees fit. The import and export of such devices are also strictly regulated and enforced by the Canada Border Services Agency.[9]
Examples of such knives include:[10]
One-handed opening knives have been designated as legal to import by Canada Border Services as long as they don't fall into one of the prohibited categories.
There is no length restriction on carrying knives within the Criminal Code of Canada; the only restriction is for concealed carry. China
Due to concerns about potential violence at the 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing, China is beginning to restrict "dangerous knives", requiring that purchasers register with the government when purchasing these knives. Included in the new restrictions are knives with "blood grooves", lockblade knives, knives with blades measuring over 22 cm (8.6 in) in length, and knives with blades over 15 cm in length also having a point angle of less than 60 degrees.[11][12] As of January 2011, according to an authorized Leatherman dealer in Beijing all knives with a locking blade are illegal unless they are part of a larger multi-tool like a leatherman.[citation needed] However, many people still carry locking pocket knives especially when camping with no issues. He suggested carrying locking knives in checked luggage on airplanes, and on your person in trains and subways since they could be confiscated if found in a bag. Foreigners are generally given a bit more leeway in China so if a traveler is caught with a small knife there will probably be no prosecution and at most confiscation.[citation needed]
I must be missing your point.
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Just never researched knives. So much emphasis is put on guns, I guess I never really thought about other weapon bans. You just never hear about them in the media. I carry a clip on knife everyday and it comes in handy quite a bit. My whole group at work does but ... it may be illegal in some areas and we never really even considered it.
Just never researched knives. So much emphasis is put on guns, I guess I never really thought about other weapon bans. You just never hear about them in the media. I carry a clip on knife everyday and it comes in handy quite a bit. My whole group at work does but ... it may be illegal in some areas and we never really even considered it.
Ah, fair enough. I agree that "knife control" (for lack of a better term) is a seldom discussed issue (at least relative to gun control.)
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65 year old woman fires 2 shots, sends 5 armed robbers running for their lives....
Nice.....long live the 2nd amendment..
And yet those of us in many other parts of the world (outside the US) aren't constantly under threat from all of these armed thugs despite not carrying guns. How is that? How have Canadians, Brits, most Europeans, Australians and others survived despite not being allowed to carry and scare off the 5 armed robbers that are always, seemingly, lurking at bay. Guns are the only deterent, right?
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And yet those of us in many other parts of the world (outside the US) aren't constantly under threat from all of these armed thugs despite not carrying guns. How is that? How have Canadians, Brits, most Europeans, Australians and others survived despite not being allowed to carry and scare off the 5 armed robbers that are always, seemingly, lurking at bay. Guns are the only deterent, right?
I lived in the US for 11 years and was never under any threat in regular day to day life.
I lived in the US for 11 years and was never under any threat in regular day to day life.
That's not my point, although, I'll admit it was a clumsy attempt.
The poster above seemed to suggest that if we all behaved like the grandma-with-a-gun that we would be safer from the constant threat of criminals.
What I was trying to say was:
a) many gun advocates vastly overstate the criminal threat and it is generally a scare tactic
b) many of us that live in countries that do not have the equivalent of the US 2nd amendment aren't allowed to behave like granny and yet we are generally safer from violent criminal activity than a US resident
So, there is little evidence that the 2nd amendment is effective at preventing violent crime. In fact, it may be just the opposite. Anecdotal stories like granny are nice but have no bearing on the discussion.
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Who would threaten a "perfect" person?
How's that?
Because I actually address the reality of the topic rather than the emotionally charged rhetoric you cannot seem to avoid?
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So, there is little evidence that the 2nd amendment is effective at preventing violent crime. In fact, it may be just the opposite. Anecdotal stories like granny are nice but have no bearing on the discussion.
Fair enough and I wouldnt disagree, I'm just stating that never did I feel any threat because of people allowed to carry either. Im harldy a gun advocate in any way myself, but we are talking about hundreds of years of rights that many want to change. Its just not that black and white though and something that rational people need to understand when discussing gun control/bans and advocacy.
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