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Old 07-31-2012, 03:31 PM   #61
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Should I still be shocked so many posters seem to have given up on Backlund?

Considering Backs just signed a discount-ish signing or a 'prove it' contract if you will and also considering he is 4 years younger with a lot more potential than Stajan I think the 3rd line centre spot is Backs to lose personally.

If we handle Backs correctly we good have a legit shut-down centre on hands; far too early right now to call him the odd man out this year.

Aww Helllll No. Unless the guy starts 'roiding, he will continue to get physically dominated. Just imagine him matching up against Joe Thorton...Kopitar.... or trying to compete down low against LA Kings-type wingers. He might be able to match up with the Sedins, but i think its either 2nd liner or bust with backlund
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Old 07-31-2012, 03:35 PM   #62
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ON TOPIC: Stempniak is a 15-20 goal guy, he adds to offensive depth so he is a good player to have
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:08 PM   #63
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tanguay - backlund/cervanka - iginla
cammalleri - backlund/cervanka - hudler
baertchi - stajan - glencross
comeau - jones - jackman
Tanguay - Cammy - Iginla
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Baertschi - Backlund - Stempniak
Jackman - Jones - Comeau

Stempniak will fill the perfect mentor role for Baertschi and Backlund
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:13 PM   #64
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More likely they plan at playing cammalleri at center regsrdless.
Cammy
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So then we still have one odd man out at center instead of left wing then. I am still going with they signed Stemps cause they didn't know if Hudler was going to sign at the time.
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:15 PM   #65
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Stajan
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So then we still have one odd man out at center instead of left wing then. I am still going with they signed Stemps cause they didn't know if Hudler was going to sign at the time.
Stemp was signed before July 1st. I doubt the signings are related at all since the Flames hadn't even talked to Hudler at all at that time.
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:24 PM   #66
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Stemp was signed before July 1st. I doubt the signings are related at all since the Flames hadn't even talked to Hudler at all at that time.
so that proves my point they needed someone to fill the 3rd line left wing. Seeing as how no one was signed. Then they ended up getting Hudler after the fact because he is obviously better. They probably didn't have Hudler even on the radar at the time.
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:51 PM   #67
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Any evidence to support this claim?

Any examples of a '20 goal scorer who isn't streaky'?
Did you try looking things up yourself? I did a bit of searching and Jakub Voracek (not a 20 goal scorer last year) was pretty consistent throughout the season until he heated up a bit in March. Pretty much spent the first half scoring 1 goal ever 5-10 games. Was better from January onwards where he scored a goal every 2-5 games. Only one multi-goal game during the season. There are many ways to end up with 20 goals in a season. To categorize 20 goal scorers as all being streaky is just silly.


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The only month in which Stempiak never never scored a goal in the past 2 seasons where he played a game was February 2011
Stempniak had a 15 goaless drought last season.

He had a 21 game goaless drought and a 15 game goaless drought in the previous year in a season where he scored 19 goals.

The year before that he scored 14 goals in during an 18 goal stretch with Phoenix compared to the 14 goals in 62 games he scored with Phoenix.

I only mentioned months because I was lazy and didn't want to look things up, but Stempniak's reputation for being a streaky goal scorer is pretty well deserved.
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:55 PM   #68
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ason.

He had a 21 game goaless drought and a 15 game goaless drought in the previous year in a season where he scored 19 goals.

The year before that he scored 14 goals in during an 18 goal stretch with Phoenix compared to the 14 goals in 62 games he scored with Phoenix.

I only mentioned months because I was lazy and didn't want to look things up, but Stempniak's reputation for being a streaky goal scorer is pretty well deserved.
thats nice, it was conceded he was streaky/inconsistent, what exactly are you trying to prove? because no one has said he isn't.
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Fact is, the guy should score 15 goals this year. A team needs a player like him.
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thats nice, it was conceded he was streaky/inconsistent, what exactly are you trying to prove?
Umm... I'm confused... I said that Stempniak is the type of player who could score 6+ one month and then none the next. You quoted me and said that there was only one month in which Stempniak never scored a goal in the past 2 seasons. So... what exactly were you trying to prove?
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:33 PM   #71
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every thread.
I honestly feel sorry for you Ricardo, living a life that negative must be tough.
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:55 PM   #72
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Umm... I'm confused... I said that Stempniak is the type of player who could score 6+ one month and then none the next. You quoted me and said that there was only one month in which Stempniak never scored a goal in the past 2 seasons. So... what exactly were you trying to prove?
I replied to what you said, then you stepped back and changed what you meant. I'm not trying to get into a pissing match with someone online, I said my piece to what was originally said. But no one has denied his inconsistencies.
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:20 PM   #73
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I'm surprised more people don't see or don't want these lines happening.

Tanguay-Cammaleri-Iginla

Glencross-Cervenka-Hudler

Baertschi-Backlund-Stempniak

Comeau-Stajan-Jones

Jackman

Now why the 2 centres on the 4th line? For faceoff help in case one gets thrown out.

Yeah there's one soft player on the 4th line instead of 3 guys who can bang bodies and Stajan's not a good option as a 4th liner but who says there has to be a traditional 4th line? Also, Jackman can come in for Stajan (or whoever) when or if the coach sees need for it.

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Old 07-31-2012, 11:00 PM   #74
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I'm surprised more people don't see or don't want these lines happening.

Tanguay-Cammaleri-Iginla

Glencross-Cervenka-Hudler

Baertschi-Backlund-Stempniak

Comeau-Stajan-Jones

Jackman

Now why the 2 centres on the 4th line? For faceoff help in case one gets thrown out.

Yeah there's one soft player on the 4th line instead of 3 guys who can bang bodies and Stajan's not a good option as a 4th liner but who says there has to be a traditional 4th line? Also, Jackman can come in for Stajan (or whoever) when or if the coach sees need for it.
I think having Baertschi and Backlund together would be a good idea. It should rejuvenate Backlund's game.
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It seems I am in the minority but I don't mind the guy. He didn't have a great year last year that's for sure but he showed some flashes of skill. He is on the happy side of 30 which is a bonus. I dunno if he is playing 3rd line mins with some rookies he can be utilized as a mentor and he can provide depth if guys get injured. 2.5 million per for 2 years is pretty reasonable also.
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I think having Baertschi and Backlund together would be a good idea. It should rejuvenate Backlund's game.
can you rejuvenate a game that has never been there?
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It seems I am in the minority but I don't mind the guy. He didn't have a great year last year that's for sure but he showed some flashes of skill. He is on the happy side of 30 which is a bonus. I dunno if he is playing 3rd line mins with some rookies he can be utilized as a mentor and he can provide depth if guys get injured. 2.5 million per for 2 years is pretty reasonable also.
Yeah, for sure. Wasn't crazy about the re-signing of Comeau and wouldnt've been upset if Stempy wasn't re-signed, but there's good potential possible if he plays with Baertschi & Backlund, 2 guys who have the potential, and in Backlund's case, needs to show it soon since he's on a 1 year deal.

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can you rejuvenate a game that has never been there?
Yeah, rejuvenate is not the best word since he hasn't accomplished much here yet.

Ignite might be a better word for it. The potential for him to do better is there. I think there's a good chance he can fulfill some of it and hit 40ish points. Whether he will do it is another matter.
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A good video on Nemisz over on the Backburner forum. I'd sure like to see him take Stempniuk's job. I don't dislike Stempniuk, I just think that we could do better for a third liner.
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I'm surprised more people don't see or don't want these lines happening.

Tanguay-Cammaleri-Iginla

Glencross-Cervenka-Hudler

Baertschi-Backlund-Stempniak

Comeau-Stajan-Jones

Jackman

Now why the 2 centres on the 4th line? For faceoff help in case one gets thrown out.

Yeah there's one soft player on the 4th line instead of 3 guys who can bang bodies and Stajan's not a good option as a 4th liner but who says there has to be a traditional 4th line? Also, Jackman can come in for Stajan (or whoever) when or if the coach sees need for it.
If I was drawing up the lines, that is exactly how my forward group would look like to start the season.
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