Saw this Wednesday at chinook imax with the attendant telling me that there was no AC and that the 720 show was grumbling about it. Was tolerable since it was later at night and the sun had gone down.
There was a lot of exposition in the movie with several of the conversations spelling out the plot of the movie. Banes (Hardy's) speech in the movie while watching it was clear enough for me and I felt that in response to earlier criticisms the audio track was changed. Hardy may have been doing a Sean Connery impression though so that may have contributed to the general confusion of his words. Also no power rangers head Bob that people are so use to when people with nonvisible mouths are used.
Really the movie is just cribbing from no man's land,millers tdkr, and knightfall. Although I don't know where Alfred's cafe bit came from, maybe an elseworlds. And the climax with the reactor? Sometimes you never have a good place to dispose of a bomb.
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A roided wrestler with a mullet is a good villain? The only 'decent' bane story was Vegenance of Bane, which showed the origin of him growing up in prison.
What 'right' stories should i be reading?? hahaha
Hmmm my top 5 comics of all time. You tell me if thats terrible taste or not.
1. Fables
2. 20th Century Boys(best flipping manga ever. I get total goosebumps when i read this and i can no longer read this at night anymore because I can't sleep after. Not scary but super suspenseful)
3. Y the Last Man
4. Preacher
5. Watchmen/Dark Knight Returns
The best Bane stories? Here
"Tabula Rasa" and all of Secret Six.
I wouldn't necessarily say Bane was a pawn, but he was in many ways a hired gun. In the opening scene of the movie Mr. CIA (Carcetti/Littlefinger) mentions that Bane is a mercenary, and I think Alfred mentions Bane was hired by Daggett for a coup of a diamond mine in West Africa. So I think while he and Talia worked together, Bane was more of the go get stuff done portion of the team, while Talia worked up the actual plan.
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I wouldn't necessarily say Bane was a pawn, but he was in many ways a hired gun. In the opening scene of the movie Mr. CIA (Carcetti/Littlefinger) mentions that Bane is a mercenary, and I think Alfred mentions Bane was hired by Daggett for a coup of a diamond mine in West Africa. So I think while he and Talia worked together, Bane was more of the go get stuff done portion of the team, while Talia worked up the actual plan.
Yes, but throughout the movie it's revealed that Bane was never really working for Dagget (who wanted to take over Wayne Enterprises IIRC) as it was Dagget who was a pawn in Bane/Talia's plan to get Bane into Gotham. They dont really reveal how much was Talia's plan and how much was Bane's, but he was obviously much more to Talia than just a hired gun, and Talia was much more to Bane than just his boss.
I wouldn't necessarily say Bane was a pawn, but he was in many ways a hired gun. In the opening scene of the movie Mr. CIA (Carcetti/Littlefinger) mentions that Bane is a mercenary, and I think Alfred mentions Bane was hired by Daggett for a coup of a diamond mine in West Africa. So I think while he and Talia worked together, Bane was more of the go get stuff done portion of the team, while Talia worked up the actual plan.
He's more than just a mercenary or a gun for hire. Mercenaries don't usually sign up when the mission involves them dieing. But when you bring in Talia at the end of the movie it does make Bane seem like a weaker character. I thought he was really bad ass when it looked like he was the master mind behind the whole plot. You take that away from him by adding another villain and he just ends up being the muscle.
Saw this Wednesday at chinook imax with the attendant telling me that there was no AC and that the 720 show was grumbling about it. Was tolerable since it was later at night and the sun had gone down.
I was in the 7:20 showing. It was brutal. My back was drenched when we got out of the movie. Gross.
I was in the 7:20 showing. It was brutal. My back was drenched when we got out of the movie. Gross.
Did you guys ask for your money back or a free pass? That movie was intense to begin with. Couldn't imagine sitting through that in a theatre with no a/c.
Did you guys ask for your money back or a free pass? That movie was intense to begin with. Couldn't imagine sitting through that in a theatre with no a/c.
No we didn't, we should have but didn't think about it at the time. Besides, I was too jacked about how good the movie was to really care that much lol.
Since we are talking about unrealistic storylines and major plot holes...you have a girlfriend?
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She's a woman, now.
Back on topic. Really enjoyed it, finally a trilogy that is 1-3 great. Usually there is one that sucks balls but man all three were really good.
Minor quibble but probably still a good thing.. you can tell there was tonnes of cuts on the editing room floor. That banter between Robin and Bruce Wayne at in his house when he first confronted him about being Batman was rushed, you could tell there was some stuff heavily edited out, and this was a "problem" throughout. I think we will see a much longer extended cut at some point, I'm guessing there is upwards of 25+ minutes of usable storyline footage to be put back in.
I've never been a huge Batman fan. The first two Burton movies were just okay and the two after were of course garbage... but I've loved this trilogy. Really loved Bane as well. Not knowing his character at all I was surprised how much depth he had. The voice was awkward and times and I for sure missed some stuff but it was really well. Hardy was fantastic as always.
Love the fact it was a hard ending for this trilogy.
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It might be blasphemous, but I thought Hardy's performance was right there with Ledger's. He did such a good job of conveying emotions using his body and his eyes, since obviously he had the mask covering a large portion of his face. The scene at the end where he sheds the tear was truly outstanding.
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It might be blasphemous, but I thought Hardy's performance was right there with Ledger's. He did such a good job of conveying emotions using his body and his eyes, since obviously he had the mask covering a large portion of his face. The scene at the end where he sheds the tear was truly outstanding.
I sort of agree. I think Ledger as the Joker was better, but Bane isn't that far in terms of performances go. I also think I'm one of the only people who liked his accent, wasn't expecting it at all and thought it fit the character really well.
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Saw it tonight as well . . . . Loved it, although it was going in 6th gear and almost went off the rails a few times. But Nolan held on for dear life and it was every bit the epic its supposed to be.
REALLY really hate the end where Alfred is sitting at the table. Would have been far more poetic for Alfred to just look up and smirk a bit rather than assume the audience didn't get it. It's a little insulting, actually.
Also, Joseph Gordon-Levitt FTW. Loved the cameo by Cillian Murphy as well.
Great show, I liked it. BB was more story-based, TDK was more action based, and this one played both equally into the equation.
My favourite out of all three is still BB, however. Just a solid, solid movie - one that was simple to follow, it was the most human out of all of them, and it scores in setting the pace for the Bruce Wayne character and his own story.
REALLY really hate the end where Alfred is sitting at the table. Would have been far more poetic for Alfred to just look up and smirk a bit rather than assume the audience didn't get it. It's a little insulting, actually.
You realize it's a PG-13 movie, right? As in, not all the audience is expected to be as smart as you.
REALLY really hate the end where Alfred is sitting at the table. Would have been far more poetic for Alfred to just look up and smirk a bit rather than assume the audience didn't get it. It's a little insulting, actually.
I agree, I would have loved that a lot more... but at the end of the day it's Batman not Inception. If they wanted a totally open-ended moment like that they would have left it at the auto-pilot point with Lucius Fox and not even do the lunch in Rome (?) part.
I agree, I would have loved that a lot more... but at the end of the day it's Batman not Inception. If they wanted a totally open-ended moment like that they would have left it at the auto-pilot point with Lucius Fox and not even do the lunch in Rome (?) part.
Agree
Yes, the fixed auto-pilot and repaired Batman spot light are enough to let you know he's alive but why not show him? The younger audiences probably needed it and it was nice to say goodbye to Bruce as an audience member. I was happy to see he was happy.
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Jesus, this isn't Inception or Memento or some other major mind #### movie. It's a BATMAN movie at the end of the day. You know, a comic book super hero.
Are you borderline ######ed?
This is what I said, in the part you quoted me.
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