Shooting at Movie screening of TDKR in Colorado

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Aleks

I'm sorry but that is weak. Continue to convince me that that is any different than any other semi auto rifle, functionally not cosmetically. Does color define an assault rifle? A pistol grip handle? Because again they all go bang when you pull a trigger, so you have me confused. Assault rifle is a word the media has latched on to in an effort to scare people like you into thinking there is a different breed of gun out there more dangerous to the public than anything, mission accomplished....

While we are at it should we restrict the public use of cars? They kill people way more often.....or what it he had gone and killed people with a kitchen knife? Should they be banned?

I'm not trying to detract from the tragedy, because it truly is a sad day for all the victims and families, but misguided anger at a tool is incorrect. Let's treat the root cause of mental illness rather than cries of taking away legal gun owners property

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Stop saying you are "sorry" and answer my question. Let's not play semantic games. Are you seriously arguing some guns are not more destructive than others, whatever they are called?

Do you think 71 people shot, including 12 dead, could have happened with just hand guns?

[Aleks]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

Also, just a note on this..... the masters engineering guy I knew who went out shooting, he did not go insane. I knew him quite well. I understand its unfair that you won't be allowed to own firearms, but it would have saved a few lives. The guns were not acquired on the street or anything like that, it was bought over the counter. Not sure what your priorities are... just my opinion, I think preventing this from happening a few times at the cost of livelihood is acceptable. I know some will disagree.

I'll come by to confiscate your automobile immediately. If it only saves one life. Reasonable hey? Liberals make my head hurt

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[Schultzie]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

People are really freaking dumb sometimes. On Twitter an hour ago:


How bloody dumb are you to post this?

Haha. Look up "capitalism" in the dictionary and that tweet should be the first definition.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Naturally CelebBoutique has already deleted their tweet. Damage already done though.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Aleks

I'll come by to confiscate your automobile immediately. If it only saves one life. Reasonable hey? Liberals make my head hurt

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Your inability to see the difference between a mode of transportation and a tool designed exclusively for killing makes my head hurt.

[billybob123]

Originally Posted by Aleks

That AK47 fires the same round in the same direction delivering it on target the same way as my sks or any other .308/7.62x39 calibre firearm. So what makes it more dangerous??

Are you in Canada? Is the SKS restricted here because of the magazine?

The point that I think the OP was making is that an AK-47 can empty its 30-round magazine in 5-10 seconds. Your SKS can only hold, what, 10 rounds? So you would have reload twice in the same amount of time. It's also not fully automatic so would take longer to empty.

That being said, it seems like the panic that's caused lets people reload plenty.

[Aleks]

Originally Posted by troutman

Stop saying you are "sorry" and answer my question. Let's not play semantic games.

Do you think 71 people shot, including 12 dead, could have happened with just hand guns?

Could have happened with any guns really. I think you're confusing assault rifle with fully automatic action firearms. They are not synonymous. Again I'm asking you to tell me how an assault rifle by name is any more dangerous. Don't confuse details for the sake of your argument

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[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

People are really freaking dumb sometimes. On Twitter an hour ago:


How bloody dumb are you to post this?

I don't get it. I'm assuming one of the victims was wearing that?

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I don't get it. I'm assuming one of the victims was wearing that?

The shooting was in Aurora, COL.

Their brand name or clothing line is named Aurora.

They made a bad assumption about why "Aurora" was trending. Made them look pretty stupid.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

People are really freaking dumb sometimes. On Twitter an hour ago:


How bloody dumb are you to post this?

Dumber than me. It took me 2 minutes to figure out what any of that meant.

Non-twitter user, non-Kardashian follower here.

[Savvy27]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2...-premiere.html

Eyewitness accounts and video from outside the theater. It sounds absolutely terrifying.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Backpeddling at about 1,000 MPH

Celeb Boutique‏@celebboutique
We didn't check what the trend was about hence the confusion, again we do apologise.

Celeb Boutique‏@celebboutique
We are incredibly sorry for our tweet about Aurora - Our PR is NOT US based and had not checked the reason for the trend, at that time our social media was totally UNAWARE of the situation and simply thought it was another trending topic - we have removed the very insensitive tweet and will of course take more care in future to look into what we say in our tweets. Again we do apologise for any offense caused tweet and will of course take more care in future to look into what we say in our tweets. Again we do apologise for any offense caused

[Aleks]

Originally Posted by billybob123

Are you in Canada? Is the SKS restricted here because of the magazine?

The point that I think the OP was making is that an AK-47 can empty its 30-round magazine in 5-10 seconds. Your SKS can only hold, what, 10 rounds? So you would have reload twice in the same amount of time. It's also not fully automatic so would take longer to empty.

That being said, it seems like the panic that's caused lets people reload plenty.

Nope sks is non restricted. I know exactly what point he is making, I'm pointing out that broad generalizations such as assault rifles means nothing. Mag capacity has nothing to do with it being as assault rifle (or my girlfriends rem 597 with a 50rd mag would be one....right?). That is just a functional limit on rounds held at once, not how many mags you can carry....and reloading time on pistols is short if well practiced. As for fully auto vs semi, we aren't talking a gun with Uzi speed firing here....which by the way need reloading way faster so that's a limitation as well......

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[driveway]

An assault rifle is a firearm designed exclusively for use against human targets, at range, with the potential to engage multiple targets simultaneously. No one needs that ####.

[jammies]

An assault rifle is capable of automatic fire, shoots rifle size ammunition, and has a large capacity magazine. Informally (ie - in media use) semi-auto weapons that otherwise meet the definition are called "assault rifles" or "assault weapons". Sometimes such semi-automatic weapons can be modified to allow fully automatic fire, which rather blurs the definition.

Assault rifles are military-grade weapons whose purpose is to allow large volumes of reasonably accurate short to medium range fire against unarmoured targets. They are qualitatively different than other weapons such as pistols, hunting rifles, and the like. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous. Their very reason for existence, and the reason they are standard issue for any country's infantry and all kinds of irregular forces, is that they are deadly anti-personnel weapons, even when wielded by the minimally trained.

[Aleks]

Originally Posted by driveway

An assault rifle is a firearm designed exclusively for use against human targets, at range, with the potential to engage multiple targets simultaneously. No one needs that ####.

Soooo...every firearm? My rifles and pistols get used vs paper. Most in the world do. Every now and then one crazy doesn't and it gives you cause to paint all of us with the same brush. MILLIONS of firearms in possession of people.

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[troutman]

Originally Posted by Aleks

Could have happened with any guns really. I think you're confusing assault rifle with fully automatic action firearms. They are not synonymous. Again I'm asking you to tell me how an assault rifle by name is any more dangerous. Don't confuse details for the sake of your argument

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You are jumping all over the use of the term "assault rifle". I am not a gun expert. Forget about that. My point was not about a technical weapon classification.

Some guns are more destructive than others, and should be regulated differently. That is my theory.

[driveway]

Originally Posted by Aleks

Soooo...every firearm? My rifles and pistols get used vs paper. Most in the world do. Every now and then one crazy doesn't and it gives you cause to paint all of us with the same brush. MILLIONS of firearms in possession of people.

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Echhh... go away, troll. You had the potential to be a reasonable participant in discussion, but you've fallen short. Begone with you.

[Aleks]

Originally Posted by troutman

You are jumping all over the use of the term "assault rifle". I am not a gun expert. Forget about that. My point was not about a technical weapon classification.

Some guns are more destructive than others, and should be regulated differently. That is my theory.

Tell. Me. How.

That's the point you're missing. One firearm is functionally equally deadly if misused than the next. They all do the same thing. Point, pull, bang. If you would like to be familiarized or an introduction to firearms I'm more than happy to oblige. A lack of understanding equals fear and discomfort. My only fear and discomfort is that there are people like the accused that are running around every day. I deal with them at work, and yes I am an expert

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[Aleks]

Originally Posted by driveway

Echhh... go away, troll. You had the potential to be a reasonable participant in discussion, but you've fallen short. Begone with you.

Because you won't argue using fact? Because what I'm saying is right? That's your response? Hmm

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