I really wish these people were known only as "the shooter" no face, no name, nothing.
Report the crime not the criminals identity. Mention town, place, whatever but no names let them go down as just a nobody in jail/history.
100% agreed, this was one of my first thoughts when I heard about it. I'm sure he's going to love all the fuss made into his background, childhood & personal problems, and "where it all went wrong" for him. Not to mention encourages other crazies who would love all that pub.
I don't give a rat's behind what his name is, what he looks like, nothing. All we need to know him as is the crazy shooter in a Denver movie theatre who's now getting the Jeffrey Dahmer treatment in a jail cell several times daily.
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It's both, and they are related. People believe it's their God given right enshrined in the constitution to own and carry firearms. Guns evolved dramatically in the last 200 years, but the laws really haven't. It's almost impossible for any politician to enact meaningful gun control legislation because the NRA is far too powerful. Guns are easy to obtain for almost anyone because there are loopholes to avoid background checks like purchasing at gun shows ect. A lot of Americans truly believe the solution to these incidents involves more citizens carrying concealed weapons that would defuse these situations immediately.
Walk into most Wholesale Sports stores or other outdoor type stores in the US and you will see Utah concealed weapon training program permit courses that you can take for $40 - $50. You don't have to go Utah to take the course. I was just down many of the States surrounding Utah and this course is offered everywhere. Likely about as hard as getting your learners license
The truth is made worse by the reality that no one—really no one—anywhere on the political spectrum has the courage to speak out about the madness of unleashed guns and what they do to American life. That includes the President, whose consoling message managed to avoid the issue of why these killings take place. Of course, we don’t know, and perhaps never will, what exactly “made him” do what he did; but we know how he did it. Those who fight for the right of every madman and every criminal to have as many people-killing weapons as they want share moral responsibility for what happened last night—as they will when it happens again. And it will happen again.
The reality is simple: every country struggles with madmen and ideologues with guns, and every country—Canada, Norway, Britain—has had a gun massacre once, or twice. Then people act to stop them, and they do—as over the past few years has happened in Australia. Only in America are gun massacres of this kind routine, expectable, and certain to continue. Does anyone even remember any longer last July’s gun massacre, those birthday-party killings in Texas, when an estranged husband murdered his wife and most of her family, leaving six dead?
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Shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter
We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat
And we sit, watching our TVs
While some local newscaster tells us
That today we had fifteen homicides
And sixty-three violent crimes
As if that’s the way it’s supposed to be
We know things are bad…
Worse than bad… They’re crazy!
It’s like everything everywhere is going crazy
So we don’t go out any more
We sit in our house and
Slowly the world we’re living in is getting smaller
And all we say is:
Please at least leave us alone in our living room
Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials
And I won’t say anything
Just leave us alone…
Well I’m not going to leave you alone…
I want you to get MAD!
ah the good old internet age, next thing out will be that he ate a big mac meal before going to the movie and the clerk that served him said he seemed "so polite."
Seriously, when it comes to tragedies of this scale there should be a media blackout, it only serves to sensationalize what has occured, which in many cases these people are looking for anyhow.
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Very tragic and really makes me scratch my head about why laws seem to do more to allow things like this to continually happen. The right to bare arms is more important then the right not to get shot at? I would like to believe society in the US and even here in Canada can be civilized enough to realize its time to heavily regulate both who gets guns, why they need guns, what type of guns are available. Gun enthusiasts, hobbyists and collectors might not like it but they also should be heavily regulated to ensure they bare arms with the same level of responisbilty expected of the police and military and any other organizations that require firearms in their line of work. Also the organizations that use firearms in their line of work need to have the highest standards regarding the use and regulations of firearms.
Whatever is going on now just isn't working, isolated incidents and anomolies are one thing but to many lives are being ruined with the mass proliferation of firearms that our culture is so fond of.
Im not really for guns at all, but if people must have them then the attitude towards it all needs to change. I know plenty of people from the US who tell me stories about guns for sale on street corners...which strikes me as being far to casual. Unfortunately though I understand there are a variety of factors leading to this so really its a bigger issue of society needing some long term reassessment and restructuring rather then a couple of laws being changed.
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That'll solve the problem! Good ol' American culture of vengeance
I didn't suggest it would solve anything.
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Anyone who purchases a firearm should have a background check done, and there should be a license required that proves that the person buying the firearm went through an extensive safety course.
That being said, this guy was a med student. He is obviously smart, so passing an extensive gun safety course wouldn't be a problem. Unless there is something we don't know, the background check wouldn't have kept him from purchasing the firearm either.
Do we even know where he got the AK-47 from? There is a huge black market in the US, with drug cartels selling drugs and firearms in literally every single city in the US. How will any kind of gun control or gun law stop that?
Its the same issue with the Mayerthorpe shootings. We had a gun registry in place, we have tighter gun control, we have a strict buying process, and it still didn't help. Because at the end of the day, you can't regulate people from going insane. And that is exactly what happened here.
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In case you were wondering, reuters with a list of the mass shootings worldwide in the last 25 years. Sucks that there have been so many they are hard to recall without the list:
Seeing as it's from Hootsuite (a service that lets you schedule when your tweets go out), this is a pretty strong example of why scheduling tweets can be both a time saver and a horrible idea.
I never listen to Jack FM in the morning thanks to the two d-bags on the morning show, but I was accidentally tuned in this morning when they were talking about it. The chick (Kelly Abbot?) mentioned the shooter's name. "The suspect is James Holmes. He's an American, so at least this wasn't terrorism." Nice bit of racism there.
I didn't know America was a race.
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He just seemed like a very nice person. I loved Squiggy.
Anyone who purchases a firearm should have a background check done, and there should be a license required that proves that the person buying the firearm went through an extensive safety course.
That being said, this guy was a med student. He is obviously smart, so passing an extensive gun safety course wouldn't be a problem. Unless there is something we don't know, the background check wouldn't have kept him from purchasing the firearm either.
Do we even know where he got the AK-47 from? There is a huge black market in the US, with drug cartels selling drugs and firearms in literally every single city in the US. How will any kind of gun control or gun law stop that?
Its the same issue with the Mayerthorpe shootings. We had a gun registry in place, we have tighter gun control, we have a strict buying process, and it still didn't help. Because at the end of the day, you can't regulate people from going insane. And that is exactly what happened here.
I don't know if either would help. People like this ... I don't know if its a matter of history, upbringing or education. I know of a guy who was a graduate student in engineering, his father was a executive in a big banking firm, soft spoken and presented professionally and well (though a little shy) that went out to a public place and started shooting. The unfortunate thing is, its hard to identify who is allowed to have a gun and who is not (esp the constitution?) With apologies to gun enthusiasts, I would say... the general population should not be allowed to have a gun. I know its a hobby or collection or past time for most, but I think something that has to be forgone for the sake of society.
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Yes when an American terrorizes other Americans it's not terrorism. When someone who fits a certain profile terrorizes Americans its called terrorism. Oh America.....
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Yes when an American terrorizes other Americans it's not terrorism. When someone who fits a certain profile terrorizes Americans its called terrorism. Oh America.....
I don't consider myself to be a dumb person, I went to college, I've handled complex projects and I've even managed to find elegant solutions to seemingly large convoluted challenges in life... but lord help me, I just can't make sense of what constitutes "terrorism".