07-13-2012, 08:50 AM
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#1881
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by nik-
What makes you sure about something like this? Every team has someone of a Nemisz caliber they can slot in rather than bring someone else from another organization in.
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every team have a big bodied defensive stud that can both center wand the wing? somehow I doubt it.
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07-13-2012, 08:52 AM
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#1882
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Oh Nemisz is a defensive stud now?
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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07-13-2012, 08:59 AM
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#1883
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nik-
Oh Nemisz is a defensive stud now?
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he always has been, maybe you need to learn more about the prospects.
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07-13-2012, 09:05 AM
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#1884
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by nik-
Oh Nemisz is a defensive stud now?
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He always has been. Same reason he was paired with Hall and Heanrquie in WHL and brought in for juniors. He was their defensive player to allow the other two to go all offense.
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07-13-2012, 09:06 AM
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#1885
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Actually I think you might need to recalibrate what you consider a defensive stud. The ability to play defense doesn't make you a stud.
The guy was drafted for size and offensive ability. His knock 4 years ago was skating and it's still an issue from all that I've heard. So if hasn't improved to the point where it isn't a hindrance in 4 years, what are we expecting at this point?
And yes, every team has a prospect they can throw in, maybe not as big as Nemisz, but someone.
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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07-13-2012, 09:09 AM
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#1886
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Originally Posted by nik-
Actually I think you might need to recalibrate what you consider a defensive stud. The ability to play defense doesn't make you a stud.
The guy was drafted for size and offensive ability. His knock 4 years ago was skating and it's still an issue from all that I've heard. So if hasn't improved to the point where it isn't a hindrance in 4 years, what are we expecting at this point?
And yes, every team has a prospect they can throw in, maybe not as big as Nemisz, but someone.
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Nemisz has been a defensive specialist (or 2way since he put up pretty big offensive numbers in junior) and elite penalty killer on every team he has played on. Even in the world juniors he was used as a shut down player and excelled. You are right the knock on Nemo is his skating, but his defensive prowess is why no one that knows anything about him has ever doubted he would be at least a 3rd liner in the NHL.
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07-13-2012, 09:23 AM
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#1887
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Backup Goalie
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Lets change the title of this thread to Greg "Fricken" Nemisz
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07-13-2012, 10:58 AM
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#1888
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#1 Goaltender
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I love David Moss, and maybe Nemisz' top upside is David Moss. But he hasn't shown that he is even close to that. I hope he does develop into a useful NHL player, but he still has a long way to go. 4 years after a player is drafted, it is good to see signs that they are knocking on the door.
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07-13-2012, 11:20 AM
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#1889
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Originally Posted by Ryan Coke
I love David Moss, and maybe Nemisz' top upside is David Moss. But he hasn't shown that he is even close to that. I hope he does develop into a useful NHL player, but he still has a long way to go. 4 years after a player is drafted, it is good to see signs that they are knocking on the door.
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clearly they have different pedigrees (1st versus 7th round) and trajectories (CHL v NCAA), but David Moss didn't play in the NHL until 24 or 25 and didn't debut in the AHL until I think the age Nemisz is now, so I don't think it's necessarily true that Nemisz has shown to be nothing close to Moss
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07-13-2012, 11:27 AM
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#1890
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Originally Posted by Ryan Coke
I love David Moss, and maybe Nemisz' top upside is David Moss. But he hasn't shown that he is even close to that. I hope he does develop into a useful NHL player, but he still has a long way to go. 4 years after a player is drafted, it is good to see signs that they are knocking on the door.
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David Moss = First NHL game at the age of 25
Greg Nemisz = First NHL game at 22
Greg Nemisz can't be David Moss.
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4 years after a player is drafted, it is good to see signs that they are knocking on the door.
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Nemisz absolutely has shown that.
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07-13-2012, 12:08 PM
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#1891
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Lifetime Suspension
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And Sergei Makarov won the Calder trophy at 31. What do any of these age comparisons mean? As much as we all want it to be, it's just not there with this guy...
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07-13-2012, 12:19 PM
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#1892
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Questions:
Will Baertschi be making the big club this year for 82 games?
Will Nemisz be making the big club at all?
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07-13-2012, 12:51 PM
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#1893
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by HELPNEEDED
Questions:
Will Baertschi be making the big club this year for 82 games?
Will Nemisz be making the big club at all?
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Nemisz will be there at some point(s) for sure. No doubt in my mind. I think Nemisz will see 40-50 games this season. Sven around the 70 game mark, probably sit one or two out healthy.
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07-13-2012, 12:53 PM
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#1894
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Originally Posted by stacey
And Sergei Makarov won the Calder trophy at 31. What do any of these age comparisons mean? As much as we all want it to be, it's just not there with this guy...
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not sure what you are asking. Age is incredibly important when evaluating prospects.
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07-13-2012, 12:55 PM
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#1895
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Nemisz will be there at some point(s) for sure. No doubt in my mind. I think Nemisz will see 40-50 games this season. Sven around the 70 game mark, probably sit one or two out healthy.
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I highly doubt that many games. We have so many forwards as it is. I can only see him coming up if there are alot of injuries or the team needs a serious shake up.
Hes played a decent amount of games and only has what, 1 point?
Not saying he wont ever make it, I just think he is still a couple years away to being an effective 3rd liner.
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07-13-2012, 12:59 PM
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#1896
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Bar-Down
I highly doubt that many games. We have so many forwards as it is. I can only see him coming up if there are alot of injuries or the team needs a serious shake up.
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Guess we'll find out. Right now he's probably in that last group of three extra forwards. Say Horak, Buoma, Nemisz. I also hope guys like Jackman, Comeau and Jones aren't given roster spots just because they are vets and healthy.
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Hes played a decent amount of games and only has what, 1 point?
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15 games.
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07-13-2012, 02:33 PM
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#1897
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Vancouver, BC
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In the Hot Seat with Sven Baertschi: http://video.flames.nhl.com/videocen...ed-share-video
Thought you guys could use an interlude in all of this Nemo talk
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07-13-2012, 03:09 PM
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#1898
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
David Moss = First NHL game at the age of 25
Greg Nemisz = First NHL game at 22
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Joel Otto = First NHL game at 23
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07-13-2012, 03:51 PM
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#1900
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Had an idea!
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Who is this thread about again?
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