Yeah just started Act II and I'm going to have to do something, I basically have zero survivability against elite packs, I die almost instantly if I get touched by any of their special abilities.
Even just wandering around the desert random packs of normal mobs will take me down half health. Maybe my armor is too low.
Or roll an alt, lol what is it you guys were saying was better to play right now? Barbarian or Demon Hunter?
My two "mains" are a Barbarian (60) and a Demon Hunter (45). Both are a ton of fun to play up to inferno. I'd say I enjoyed the barb far more throughout nightmare and hell - something satisfying about bashing enemies faces across the room or demolishing 50 monsters with one earthquake (both skills made useless in inferno sadly).
Definitely want to AH a weapon every 5 or so levels on a Barb - no fun at all being behind the DPS curve.
Or roll an alt, lol what is it you guys were saying was better to play right now? Barbarian or Demon Hunter?
You'll still need some gold to get you started, not sure how much you have, either way I think you'll be stuck farming Act 1 regardless of Demon Hunter, Barb or Monk.
Although, apparently, the double tornado build for barbs can be extremely effective and doesn't require all that expensive gear to get started. Might want to look that up if you do decide to make a new char.
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something satisfying about bashing enemies faces across the room or demolishing 50 monsters with one earthquake (both skills made useless in inferno sadly).
Not sure about Bash, but I've used Earthquake a lot in Inferno, might not be the absolute most effective skill but still far from useless in my opinion.
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I'm having a real tough time progressing past act 1 right now on my monk. He has reasonable gear, but I don't think I do enough deeps at the moment. I have a 761 1 hander + a shield, and do about 12k dps with blazing wrath up. I have no problem in act 1 at all, but act 2 just seems to be quite the gear check.
Any suggestions? I could buy a 900+ dps weapon with all of my gold, but I only have about 1.2mill in the bank right now, not bad but not ideal.
I've done a ton of butcher / act 1 farm runs, btu just haven't been able to find any items that will sell for big bucks.
Not sure about Bash, but I've used Earthquake a lot in Inferno, might not be the absolute most effective skill but still far from useless in my opinion.
I'm having a hard time justifying anything past the cookie cutter Wrath of the berserker build. Needs the healing charge, the tanking cool down, retaliation, shout and frenzy+sidearm. Only way to kill an elite is with Wrath and then run around trying not to die waiting for the cool down to run out. It's horrible gameplay - but it's the only way I've been able to do anything in inferno (still not past act 1). Not sure where you'd be able to fit earthquake in. Too bad the council dudes are completely useless - liked that skill for a while.
Might be able to do something different with a lot of life on hit and resistance - but if you're like me and don't have millions in gold, you're kinda screwed.
The windy crit build still needs millions worth of equipment - highest thing I've been able to sell went for 56k. Inferno isn't a challenge - it's more a masochistic way to waste one's time right now.
Damn, the price of gold has finally dropped to about $1.80 - $2.
Doesn't feel as satisfying selling something like 10 million gold and getting like $20 lol.
Only good thing I guess is that inflation has really gone crazy and I routinely sell items for like 5 million +. Having a hundred million now is nothing crazy or unheard of.
Yea, thats probably the most lucrative gem out of all the types, emeralds that is. Crit dmg/Crit Chance is the new highly sought after build, and everyone is throwing them big emeralds in their weps and getting that huge damage.
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Yea, thats probably the most lucrative gem out of all the types, emeralds that is. Crit dmg/Crit Chance is the new highly sought after build, and everyone is throwing them big emeralds in their weps and getting that huge damage.
so it'll be nerfed soon and think the plans will go up in value?
I guess it's hard to comment on the gear since you don't know what I wear but it's level 56-60 gear which I'm sure needs an upgrade.
2. Where is a good place to get items? I can survive fine on Hell Act 4 but do items that I could use in Inferno mode drop there? It doesn't seem like soloing Act 1 on Inferno is financially smart as it costs a boat load of money to repair.
To survive in Inferno, you need all level 60 gear (unless your level 56+ gear is amazing).
Hell Act 4 drops all top tier items, but at a lower rate than Act 1 Inferno. Do whatever you can do without dying very much, and build your gold and gear (HP - Damage and Resists) and try and move up after a while.
I can't comment on WD, since I know nothing about them
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Damn, the price of gold has finally dropped to about $1.80 - $2.
Doesn't feel as satisfying selling something like 10 million gold and getting like $20 lol.
Only good thing I guess is that inflation has really gone crazy and I routinely sell items for like 5 million +. Having a hundred million now is nothing crazy or unheard of.
That spear isn't bad, but the speed is different enough that I'd have to get another spear to match, and my current weapons are up around 590dps, so I wouldn't be gaining a whole bunch.
@theJuice 100 million gold lol, I'm struggling to stay above 1 million with repairs.
Maybe I should focus on crafting and get some plans and sell them like some of you are doing, how much gold does it take to get started with something like that?
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To survive in Inferno, you need all level 60 gear (unless your level 56+ gear is amazing).
Hell Act 4 drops all top tier items, but at a lower rate than Act 1 Inferno. Do whatever you can do without dying very much, and build your gold and gear (HP - Damage and Resists) and try and move up after a while.
I can't comment on WD, since I know nothing about them
Generally speaking how do you gear with regards to resists? Am I looking for resist all? Have multiple resist specific armour sets? How does resist rank in terms of attributes? Should I still be taking intelligence/dexterity/stregth then vitality then look at resist instead of something like sockets or mana regen/critical damage/extra damage/magic find/etc.?
I guess it's hard to comment on the gear since you don't know what I wear but it's level 56-60 gear which I'm sure needs an upgrade.
2. Where is a good place to get items? I can survive fine on Hell Act 4 but do items that I could use in Inferno mode drop there? It doesn't seem like soloing Act 1 on Inferno is financially smart as it costs a boat load of money to repair.
This is the build I was using on my WD farming act 1 inferno, its all about crowd control.
The zombie wall is such a massively awesome skill and adding horrify and hex is your backups to creeps who get too close.
You must have spirit walk, a 3 min cooldown makes your life in inferno so much easier.
I completely ignored HP and all res, but there is on the diablo forums a tanky build for WDs now, but it dont have lots of gold to rebuild my guy and I'm playing a barbarian now.
The key is just get solid rings, weap and offhand, get yourself decent HP 15k-20k and your damage up to 30k and you should be farming act 1 pretty easy.
This is probably the best farming route once you are taking down butcher and not dying in act 1, there are a bunch of varied versions of this so this is just a rough guide.
If you post your gear I can comment on your stuff, but try out this build, its very effective.
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Generally speaking how do you gear with regards to resists? Am I looking for resist all? Have multiple resist specific armour sets? How does resist rank in terms of attributes? Should I still be taking intelligence/dexterity/stregth then vitality then look at resist instead of something like sockets or mana regen/critical damage/extra damage/magic find/etc.?
WD are glass canons, unless you try out the tanky WD which is apparently fun, but lots of gold to get the gear for it.
Res all is nice, but really your main concern in act 1 is to get it down to farm mode, so just focus on intelligence.
For the other stats priority for me was always crit>vit>all res.
But I havent been playing him since the new patch so not sure what others would say about the order of priority for the stats.
I mean I pretty much just wear my magic resist gear all the time, its 10k lower dps than I had with my full gear, so it wasnt a big deal.
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The zombie wall is such a massively awesome skill and adding horrify and hex is your backups to creeps who get too close.
You must have spirit walk, a 3 min cooldown makes your life in inferno so much easier.
I completely ignored HP and all res, but there is on the diablo forums a tanky build for WDs now, but it dont have lots of gold to rebuild my guy and I'm playing a barbarian now.
The key is just get solid rings, weap and offhand, get yourself decent HP 15k-20k and your damage up to 30k and you should be farming act 1 pretty easy.
This is probably the best farming route once you are taking down butcher and not dying in act 1, there are a bunch of varied versions of this so this is just a rough guide.
If you post your gear I can comment on your stuff, but try out this build, its very effective.
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WD are glass canons, unless you try out the tanky WD which is apparently fun, but lots of gold to get the gear for it.
Res all is nice, but really your main concern in act 1 is to get it down to farm mode, so just focus on intelligence.
For the other stats priority for me was always crit>vit>all res.
But I havent been playing him since the new patch so not sure what others would say about the order of priority for the stats.
I mean I pretty much just wear my magic resist gear all the time, its 10k lower dps than I had with my full gear, so it wasnt a big deal.
Thanks for the tips, Thor. I'm going to play a bit before I post my gear because it's really poor. The funny thing is that according to your suggestion I should have about 15k HP and 30k damage but for my guy those numbers are reversed. It seems that I've inadvertently been gearing myself for a tank type build.
I'm going to try your build out and play with that for a bit but keep my current gear and try and make one of those tank type guys because they look pretty fun.
Yea, thats probably the most lucrative gem out of all the types, emeralds that is. Crit dmg/Crit Chance is the new highly sought after build, and everyone is throwing them big emeralds in their weps and getting that huge damage.
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so it'll be nerfed soon and think the plans will go up in value?
Dunno if it needs to be nerfed, Crit % was also the sought after stat in WoW. Once you balance out your player in other attributes, you jam your crit as high as you can.
Generally speaking how do you gear with regards to resists? Am I looking for resist all? Have multiple resist specific armour sets? How does resist rank in terms of attributes? Should I still be taking intelligence/dexterity/stregth then vitality then look at resist instead of something like sockets or mana regen/critical damage/extra damage/magic find/etc.?
You need enough damage to kill stuff reasonably quickly. Only you can guage what that is. White mobs shouldn't take more than a hit or 2, except the more beefy ones, IMHO. To this end, you need to get Int, Crit Damage, Crit chance. Once you have enough DPS to kill quickly for farming focus on survivability.
The easiest way to gauge survivablity is use Effective Heath Pool, which is a metric which takes all your HP, Armor and resists into account and figures out how effective it is, and converts it all into EHP. I use this calculator because it lets you know how many EHP you get for adding any further (str/dex/vit/resists) at the level you are. I did a post a page or 2 page that goes into further detail about this. Then you can easily see is the 100 vit better than 60 resist all, etc.
Been slowly upgrade my lv 60 mage while playing other characters. Been farming Act 4 Hell a little, while continually generating gold with my other chars. My mage is up to 21k dps. Hopefully that's enough to at least farm the start of Act 1. I'm hoping it's good enough that I can solo the Drowned Temple.
My other chars are now a Lv 57 WD, Lv 53 Monk, Lv 41 DH and a Lv 9 barb heh. Also got some HC characters going right now too.
I'm just playing totally random here. No set plan at all for OP gear heh.
