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		| Originally posted by Bertuzzied+Sep 22 2004, 08:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bertuzzied @ Sep 22 2004, 08:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Draug@Sep 22 2004, 08:55 PM 
 I just bought a Hard Drive / DVD recorder to replace the recording functionality of the old VCR.# In addition, the HDD recorder works as a Pvr, and allows all the timeslipping functionality.#
 
 
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How much and what brand did you get? i totally need one. I'm still using a vcr to record stuff and my tapes are getting all old and ragged.[/b][/quote]
I bought the Toshiba RD-XS32.  It has an 80 GB Hdd for internal recording and Pvr functionality, and externally records to DVD-RAM, DVD-R/RW, and plays all DVD and CD formats.  It has a sticker price of $800 at Future Shop, but I got him down to $600 plus tax.  You can get the same unit from 
http://www.ecost.com for $598 including exchange, taxes and shipping/handling.  I didnt have the tiem to wait 10 days for shipping though, as the tv season was starting! 
 
 
There are other options out there too.  Panasonic makes good units.  And like I mentioned, there are 120GB versions, both in Toshiba and Panasonic.  I would definately stick with one of those two brands.  Expect to pay $600 to $800 for any of them.  No HDD / DVD recorder does HD TV yet.
Another possible route to go, is a straight Pvr, without the DVD recorder.  The only PVR for Shaw is a HD PVR, with an 80 GB drive.  They are $800 as well, but you get $100 programming credit from shaw (might have to really fight for it if you are an existing customer).  These units would also provide the basic funtionality of a Tivo.  What you are lacking here is the ability to take a recording off the device to a recordable media.
Because I dont have a HD TV (yet), and didnt have a working VCR anymore, I deided to buy the HDD/DVD recorder instead of the HD PVR.  I wanted some way to store things permanently outside of the unit, and didnt want to pay the premium for the HD.  Once I get a HD TV (~18-24 months), I will buy a HD Pvr to be able to record and playback the HD broadcasts.  Hopefully by then, Shaw will provide one with a bigger HDD than 80 GB.