"Tough to Swallow" ~ Alberta Seniors

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Rerun

My mistake... I thought I read somewhere in this post that a students primary concern was alcohol and somewhere else that they smoked weed on a daily basis. My bad.


I just thing that today's youth should have a little more compassion for the elderly.
And by the way, my generation is known as the baby boomer generation. The ME generation are those that were born from 1970 to the 1990's, that mostly had everything given to them without having to work for it while growing up.

Ok, my mistake. I thought this was a thread about LTF people wanting tasty food, and the "ME generation" (side note: after reading your posts, I'm convinced you are part of the "ME" generation and you have the years mixed up) saying they had equal food and it was ok and they aren't complaining about it.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

My point was only that students in res are a great comparable to seniors in LTC. They can't afford the market rate for services they need, so they take what the gov't offers, which is basic level food.

If the private cost is so much more than the public cost, wouldn't that imply that the subsidy is already extremely significant?

No they are not comparable. Students are in the prime of their life, healthy as horses, live a very enjoyable and entertaining lifestyle, and can exist on crappy food and 3 hours of sleep a night.

The elderly are none of these.... apples and oranges my friend.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Rerun

My mistake... I thought I read somewhere in this post that a students primary concern was alcohol and somewhere else that they smoked weed on a daily basis. My bad.


I just thing that today's youth should have a little more compassion for the elderly.
And by the way, my generation is known as the baby boomer generation. The ME generation are those that were born from 1970 to the 1990's, that mostly had everything given to them without having to work for it while growing up.

Haha I actually think those were both by me (though I made the weed reference in another thread). I don't even drink anymore so my comment was more of a joke. I do smoke weed on a daily basis and it hasn't affected my GPA one iota (unless you consider 3.7 bad)

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Now that's funny, a baby boomer not even realizing that he belongs to the Me Generation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me_generation

Haha. Love it!

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by GP_Matt

I think the differing attitude lies with the belief that while they are still working it is possible to change their situation while once retired changing your circumstances is no longer an option.

Denying a handout to an able bodied person is seen as a way of encouraging them to help themselves while denying a retiree seems cruel.

As has already been alluded to, what is most interesting is that the aforementioned seniors very likely were that younger person at some point.

Maybe the now senior decided not to change his situation or save for retirement because he figured he'd spend all of his money and enjoy life. Only to find out when he's 60 that his kids are dicks and likewise the rest of the taxpaying populous can't be bothered to help their own parents, let alone someone else's, and as such he's left to rot in one of these dungeons with bad food.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Now that's funny, a baby boomer not even realizing that he belongs to the Me Generation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me_generation

Just because its in Wikipedia doesn't make it true...

http://www.generationme.org/aboutbook.html

Generation Me is anyone born in the 1970s, 1980s, or 1990s. I mean it more as a description than a label like "GenX" or "GenY." It describes people who take it for granted that the self comes first. I'm a member of this generation myself, born in 1971.

Baby Boomers were sometimes called the "Me Generation" in the 1970s, but this was a premature and brief label: Boomers did not discover the self until young adulthood, and even then did everything in groups, from protests to seminars like est. Generation Me has never known a world that put duty before self, and believes that the needs of the individual should come first. This is not the same thing as being selfish – it is captured, instead, in the phrases we so often hear: "Be yourself," "Believe in yourself," "You must love yourself before you can love someone else." These are some of our culture's most deeply entrenched beliefs, and Generation Me has grown up hearing them whispered in our ears like the subliminally conditioned children in Aldous Huxley's Brave New World.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Rerun

No they are not comparable. Students are in the prime of their life, healthy as horses, live a very enjoyable and entertaining lifestyle, and can exist on crappy food and 3 hours of sleep a night.

The elderly are none of these.... apples and oranges my friend.

Basically what Rerun is saying is : "Students, tough luck, you are young, stop being lazy. Sleep less and cram in a house so you can pay for some tasty food for LTC"

(Again, not complaining about quality of food for univ students. Just pointing out the irony. Typical post from the ME generation.)

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Rerun

My mistake... I thought I read somewhere in this post that a students primary concern was alcohol and somewhere else that they smoked weed on a daily basis. My bad.

I just thing that today's youth should have a little more compassion for the elderly.
And by the way, my generation is known as the baby boomer generation. The ME generation are those that were born from 1970 to the 1990's, that mostly had everything given to them without having to work for it while growing up.

You sure you went to university?

Find one post in this entire thread that lacks compassion for the elderly. I haven't seen anybody advocating or even hinting that even the poorest seniors shouldn't be fed nutritious meals. I'm pleased to see CP once again land where we have. I'm sure there are people out there that believe seniors shouldn't be entitled to anything they didn't work for, but we haven't found one here.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Rerun

Just because its in Wikipedia doesn't make it true...

http://www.generationme.org/aboutbook.html

You cite one author (a baby boomer, I presume) who wrote a single book in which he misapplies the Me Generation label to Gen X and Gen Y and you expect that to over-ride the way the term has been used since the 1970s?

[Rerun]

I just thing that today's youth should have a little more compassion for the elderly.

Originally Posted by Sliver

You sure you went to university?

Ok... so I had a typo... good catch... you get a gold star. Aren't you a smart little firecracker. I bet mom and dad are proud of you.. The grandparents? Not so much perhaps.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

You cite one author (a baby boomer, I presume) who wrote a single book in which he misapplies the Me Generation label to Gen X and Gen Y and you expect that to over-ride the way the term has been used since the 1970s?

No... the author's first statement says she was born in 1971.

Baby boomers have always been known as baby boomers. Its the later generations Gen Y & X that became known as Generation Me kids. But now apparently those kids are now trying to re-write history... perhaps because they are embarrassed by the title... and their selfishness?

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Rerun

Ok... so I had a typo... good catch... you get a gold star. Aren't you a smart little firecracker. I bet mom and dad are proud of you.. The grandparents? Not so much perhaps.

lol I didn't even notice the typo. Seriously...that wasn't my point at all. My point was you were saying people in this thread lack empathy toward the elderly and I challenged you to back it up by finding somebody that didn't think ensuring every senior had access to nutritious meals. You won't be able to, BTW, because nobody has said that.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

You cite one author (a baby boomer, I presume) who wrote a single book in which he misapplies the Me Generation label to Gen X and Gen Y and you expect that to over-ride the way the term has been used since the 1970s?

Other baby boomers are the "Me Generation" citations.

http://health.howstuffworks.com/well...y-boomers2.htm

http://articles.cnn.com/2006-02-15/u...tyles?_s=PM:US

"Baby boomers are the Me Generation," says Reid Detchon, vice president for energy and climate at the United Nations Foundation,

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=105575734

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Rerun

No... his first statement says he was born in 1971.

Baby boomers have always been known as baby boomers. Its the later generations Gen Y & X that became known as Generation Me kids. But now apparently those kids are now trying to re-write history... perhaps because they are embarrassed by the title... and their selfishness?

You might want to check out those links by MarchHare... seems like you are the one re-writing history cause of your own selfishness...

Me, I'll admit my generation is entitled. So is yours. Apparently so are the elderly. Pretty much everyone is entitled today. The only one embarrassed about it seems to be you.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Rerun

Baby boomers have always been known as baby boomers. Its the later generations Gen Y & X that became known as Generation Me kids. But now apparently those kids are now trying to re-write history... perhaps because they are embarrassed by the title... and their selfishness?

"Me Generation" was first coined in the 1970s to describe the baby boomers who were seen as being self-absorbed and materialistic as young adults. The origin of the term "me generation" is an irrefutable fact. The only person here who is attempting to re-write history is you.

[NuclearPizzaMan]

History will show that the baby boomer generation enjoyed the pinnacle of western civilization, and brought about its downfall.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

You might want to check out those links by MarchHare... seems like you are the one re-writing history cause of your own selfishness...

Me, I'll admit my generation is entitled. So is yours. Apparently so are the elderly. Pretty much everyone is entitled today. The only one embarrassed about it seems to be you.

Ya right... I grew up entitled...

Why when I was a kid growing I had to walk 5 miles to school up hill each way, while walking barefoot because we couldn't afford shoes. If I wanted a toy to play with I had to fight the dog for an old piece of rope to play with.

[Rerun]

By the way, here's an article in MacLeans about the Me Generation

http://oncampus.macleans.ca/educatio...generation-me/

Millennials—those born after Jan. 1, 1982—are much more likely than Baby Boomers (now aged 50+) to value money, image and fame than things like self-acceptance, community and the environment, suggests an extensive new study in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology.

The research adds to the debate over whether those raised in the 1990s are more self-concerned and individualistic than previous generations—the Generation Me hypothesis—or whether they’re more caring because they tend to volunteer more—the Generation We theory.
The results support the Generation Me hypothesis. The study, co-authored by Millennials expert Jean M. Twenge, was really three studies in one. All three are based on surveys that captured the values of millions of American 18-year-olds and college freshman between 1966 and 2009.

The first part looked at life goals. It turns out Millennials and GenX’ers (born between 1962 and 1981) rated being very well off financially, being a leader in the community (which is correlated with a desire for fame), living close to relatives, and having administrative responsibility over others as more important to them than Boomers—born 1946 to 1961—did when they were in their late teens.

Boomers—mostly over the age of 50 now—rated developing a meaningful philosophy of life, finding purpose and meaning, keeping up-to-date with politics, and becoming involved in programs to clean up the environment as more important when they were young than Millennials. Being “very well off financially” was the eighth most important life goal (out of 12) for Boomers; now, it’s consistently ranked most important.

Seems to back up exactly what I've been saying through documented proof and research.... not what some unknown nobody posted on Wikipedia.

Here's the study for those who are interested enough to read it...

http://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/rel...102-5-1045.pdf


I'm a Baby Boomer... most of you belong to the Generation Me.

[Phanuthier]

You're telling me that 50 year olds have given up hope of being rich and famous, but people under the age of 25 still have dreams and being rich and famous?

And this surprised you?

Also... from this thread, I see that there are a lot of us talking about how we are ok with bland food (aka. "Generation ME") and then there is you trying to re-write history, talk about how tough of a childhood they had, complain that food doesn't taste good enough, and complain about kids these days (aka. "Baby Boomers")

Funny

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

Basically what Rerun is saying is : "Students, tough luck, you are young, stop being lazy. Sleep less and cram in a house so you can pay for some tasty food for LTC"

(Again, not complaining about quality of food for univ students. Just pointing out the irony. Typical post from the ME generation.)

That wasn't what I said. You're twisting my words.