P90x

[Julio]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/41357825

[rubecube]

Starting on this tomorrow. The one annoying thing I have to deal with is the fact that my chin-up bar doesn't fit on the door frame to my room where i do the exercises so I'm not going to be able to do them in front of the DVDs very easily. How important is the diet aspect of this? I eat pretty healthy already, so do I need to worry about following the guide to a T? I ask because I'm unemployed right now and don't really have money to spend on the bars and recovery drinks.

[8sPOT]

A bit of a bump here, but I've decided to give P90X a try. One question though. I work three nights a week away from home. I have access to a gym but not a DVD player, is watching the video crucial to the program?

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by 8sPOT

A bit of a bump here, but I've decided to give P90X a try. One question though. I work three nights a week away from home. I have access to a gym but not a DVD player, is watching the video crucial to the program?

If watching a video is crucial to a program then it's a bad program

What works with P90x is the motivation of having set workouts.
If you're motivated enough that you'll go to the gym and do a good workout then the DVD isn't important. It can help, and might make it more fun when you're home, but if you have the drive to do something you're half way there.

Go the gym, lift heavy things till you're tired, and you'll see results.

[awildermode]

Originally Posted by 8sPOT

A bit of a bump here, but I've decided to give P90X a try. One question though. I work three nights a week away from home. I have access to a gym but not a DVD player, is watching the video crucial to the program?

watch the videos first to get idea of what to do. then, print out the workout sheet (or write down the exercises) and use that as a guide at your gym. obviously, this is easier on the weights.

for cardio workouts: again, watch the vids, get an idea. extract the audio of the workout and play on your mp3 player (or load video).

i have done both and it works.

there is also P90X app for iphone (maybe other smarty phones) that has workouts you can buy, again.

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by 8sPOT

A bit of a bump here, but I've decided to give P90X a try. One question though. I work three nights a week away from home. I have access to a gym but not a DVD player, is watching the video crucial to the program?

Depends what you're after.

I've been doing it for a few weeks now, but not religiously. I play hockey twice a week, so I skip the yoga and slide in the other workouts when I can. You'll probably be the same if you're out of town 3 days.

P90X is a great program if you're looking to lose weight and get ripped (if you follow the workouts diet plan as well) but that's not what I'm after. I usually lose 10lbs through the summer playing a lot of hockey, so I use it as a supplement to maintain some muscle so I don't get skinny fat (my diet kind of sucks).

I'd mix in some gym work those 3 days (weights and cardio) as a change up. I'm not even through all the workouts and the ###### on the video is already driving me nuts, and it's getting a little boring, so not having to do it is a welcome break.

If you're crazy into it bring a laptop with a dvd player, and do it in your hotel room.

[8sPOT]

Right on guys thanks for the help. I figured it would be pretty straight forward, in that if its a cardio then do some intense cardio, if its chest/back do some intense chest/back.

I used to be very active, and I'm not exactly over weight but I think I should be about 10-20 lbs less. So I don't know if I'll follow it religously.

[mrgreen]

There's no point doing it if you don't follow it to the tee. You won't get the results. You need to do the diet plan and stick the exact workouts to say you've given it a real try. To quote TH 'you don't just kind of do it'. I did it last year and got in phenomenal shape. Best shape I've ever been in my life by a long stretch. If you stick to it religiously the results are absolutely undeniable.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by mrgreen

There's no point doing it if you don't follow it to the tee. You won't get the results. You need to do the diet plan and stick the exact workouts to say you've given it a real try. To quote TH 'you don't just kind of do it'. I did it last year and got in phenomenal shape. Best shape I've ever been in my life by a long stretch. If you stick to it religiously the results are absolutely undeniable.

This is one of those things that grinds my gears about programs like this.
There is nothing special about P90x.
If you work out as hard as they push you to as often as they push you to, and follow a balanced diet you'll see results.

There is nothing special or magic about their patricular plan, it's a motivational tool and nothing more.

I'm not saying using it is a horrible idea. If that's what motivates you and you see results, that's fantastic, and you should absolutely stick to it. But you absolutely do not have to stick to it to a T to see results as good as they promise. If you maintain the intensity and frequency that they push, you'll stay right on track.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

This is one of those things that grinds my gears about programs like this.
There is nothing special about P90x.
If you work out as hard as they push you to as often as they push you to, and follow a balanced diet you'll see results.

There is nothing special or magic about their patricular plan, it's a motivational tool and nothing more.

I'm not saying using it is a horrible idea. If that's what motivates you and you see results, that's fantastic, and you should absolutely stick to it. But you absolutely do not have to stick to it to a T to see results as good as they promise. If you maintain the intensity and frequency that they push, you'll stay right on track.

I agree for the most part, switching in different exercises or routines isn't going to cause you to derail, but it is important to stick to some of the guiding principles with these types of programs in terms of muscle confusion and the like. Replacing 2 exercises a week with a gym session where you "work out" by doing 4 sets of bench in 40 minutes will hurt your results. Replacing with a similar but different circuit training workout with high intensity should keep you where you want to be.

For anyone who doesn't want to drop the cash on P90X there are plenty of good free programs out there. I've grabbed principles from a few different ones and switched in new movements and exercises along the way to great results over the last few months, although I do have the benefit of going to a gym that has a ton of trainers on the floor so it's easy to steal new movements from them.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by valo403

I agree for the most part, switching in different exercises or routines isn't going to cause you to derail, but it is important to stick to some of the guiding principles with these types of programs in terms of muscle confusion and the like. Replacing 2 exercises a week with a gym session where you "work out" by doing 4 sets of bench in 40 minutes will hurt your results. Replacing with a similar but different circuit training workout with high intensity should keep you where you want to be.

For anyone who doesn't want to drop the cash on P90X there are plenty of good free programs out there. I've grabbed principles from a few different ones and switched in new movements and exercises along the way to great results over the last few months, although I do have the benefit of going to a gym that has a ton of trainers on the floor so it's easy to steal new movements from them.

Argh, Muscle confusion is one of my biggest gear grinders.
Mostly becasue it's not really a thing. It's a good marketing term though.

I agree the typical person goes to the guy, lifts weights for 15 minutes while hanging out for an hour, says the worked out for an hour, and then wonders why they don't see the results they want.

P90x is a good program for building your strength and getting in shape becasue it involves frequent intense workouts, and because there is a strong motivational component to it, not because of some muscle confusion voodoo.

Look at how any professional athletes train. Do any of them preach muscle confusion? Nope.
Variation is important, but to really progress you need to plateau (or close to it) before you change things up.

That being said, I'm definitely not knocking P90x, it's worked for a lot of people (I have a good buddy who got in great shape using it), but if you're motivated enough to stick with P90x, chances are there are any number of programs that would work great for you (and if P90x is it, then more power to you).

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by valo403

I agree for the most part, switching in different exercises or routines isn't going to cause you to derail, but it is important to stick to some of the guiding principles with these types of programs in terms of muscle confusion and the like. Replacing 2 exercises a week with a gym session where you "work out" by doing 4 sets of bench in 40 minutes will hurt your results. Replacing with a similar but different circuit training workout with high intensity should keep you where you want to be.

For anyone who doesn't want to drop the cash on P90X there are plenty of good free programs out there. I've grabbed principles from a few different ones and switched in new movements and exercises along the way to great results over the last few months, although I do have the benefit of going to a gym that has a ton of trainers on the floor so it's easy to steal new movements from them.

Depends on what you define as "results"

If I did P90X every day, and also did the amount of cardio I do through sports and a jogging regimen, I'd look like a bag of antlers.

I do low rep high weight in addition to P90X, in addition to the cardio I do, to maintain a pretty decent balance of strength and size. Will I look like a shredded 150lb fitness competitor? Probably not, but that's not the results I'm going for.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

Argh, Muscle confusion is one of my biggest gear grinders.
Mostly becasue it's not really a thing. It's a good marketing term though.

I agree the typical person goes to the guy, lifts weights for 15 minutes while hanging out for an hour, says the worked out for an hour, and then wonders why they don't see the results they want.

P90x is a good program for building your strength and getting in shape becasue it involves frequent intense workouts, and because there is a strong motivational component to it, not because of some muscle confusion voodoo.

Look at how any professional athletes train. Do any of them preach muscle confusion? Nope.
Variation is important, but to really progress you need to plateau (or close to it) before you change things up.

That being said, I'm definitely not knocking P90x, it's worked for a lot of people (I have a good buddy who got in great shape using it), but if you're motivated enough to stick with P90x, chances are there are any number of programs that would work great for you (and if P90x is it, then more power to you).

I disagree that it's not a real thing, but it does get trotted out in incorrect ways. What I'm talking about is doing dumbell curls as your bicep workout for 6 months. It'll work at first, but after a few weeks you're going to need to switch to a different variation to really get results (something as simple as a grip change).

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by valo403

I disagree that it's not a real thing, but it does get trotted out in incorrect ways. What I'm talking about is doing dumbell curls as your bicep workout for 6 months. It'll work at first, but after a few weeks you're going to need to switch to a different variation to really get results (something as simple as a grip change).

Yeah, that's exactly what I was talking about.
You need to change things up otherwise you'll plateau, periodization and progression is nothing new and certainly not something P90x has a monopoly on.

It's just for some reason it bugs me when I hear people talk about P90x and muscle confusion like it's some kind of breakthrough that was invtend a couple years ago.

Like I said, it's frequent high intensity workouts with a strong motivational component, so you'll definitely get results, but P90x is certainly not the only way to achieve those things.

Like I said before, I'm not bashing P90x, it's a great tool for a lot of people, and if you find that it works for you, you should absolutely stick with it.

[TheSutterDynasty]

Originally Posted by valo403

I disagree that it's not a real thing, but it does get trotted out in incorrect ways. What I'm talking about is doing dumbell curls as your bicep workout for 6 months. It'll work at first, but after a few weeks you're going to need to switch to a different variation to really get results (something as simple as a grip change).

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

Argh, Muscle confusion is one of my biggest gear grinders.
Mostly becasue it's not really a thing. It's a good marketing term though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_periodization

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by TheSutterDynasty

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_periodization

You mean that exact thing I mentioned in my post above this?

[albertGQ]

Thought I'd bump this thread. I'm currently on paternity leave until March so don't have access to the gym at my work anymore (well I do, but I'm not driving downtown and paying for parking to go to the gym). I just completed week 2 of the second phase. I feel so much better. Don't really follow the nutrition guide but have been eating cleaner so that's a positive. I definately feel stronger.

Think I'll do the 21 day fix extreme afterwards. And maybe Insanity before I do a second round of P90X again

Anyone else using this (or any other Beach Body program)?